NO MO Ro-Mo!!!

Jamal Lewis and Steve Mcnair on offense. Don't even get me started on the Ravens Defense. They have the pass rush that most teams the colts have played don't have. Colts have proven time and time again that they don't know how to go against a 3-4 defense. I feel all the other games can go either way but I just can't bring myself to think that the colts may have a chance.
 
you are in the majority. last year they were everyones favorite, this year they are lepers. i still say they learned from last year and held something back for the playoffs. remember bill polian is running the colts and he is one mean tough smart sob. i will be willing to bet that on tomorrows pre game show the pundits will be hedging their bets
 
thebigt said:
you are in the majority. last year they were everyones favorite, this year they are lepers. i still say they learned from last year and held something back for the playoffs. remember bill polian is running the colts and he is one mean tough smart sob. i will be willing to bet that on tomorrows pre game show the pundits will be hedging their bets
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They weren't the best team at the end of the season...in cased you missed it. You're the first person I've heard say the Colts held it back and didn't peak way too early, like they always do.
 
ok iron, did you watch the colts lose to houston? then they dismantle kc. manning had 3 picks, how often is that going to happen? teams dont know how to prepare for them. btw they were the concensus favorite to go all the way last year. i may be wrong, it wouldnt be the first time and if i am i will eat crow.:numbered: :numbered:
 
I just don't see them as quite a solid pick as the chargers in the AFC.

But peyton manning is peyton manning...the guy is friggin amazing
 
i just hope the real peyton manning shows up. game day gotta love it. manual redskins right guard, class of 76. bill belichek vs. LT. as much as i like parcels he hasnt had great success witout belichek. dont bet against new england
 
Back to Romo for a moment, yea he muffed the snap and made a mistake at the worst time possible, BUT from the head coach down there were ALOT of mistakes so to place the loss on him has mo merit, as a life long Cowboy fan the way this year has gone has not really bothered me too much, because as was stated earlier Jerry Jones went after that jack-ass Owens just for attention to the organization and not for winning games and any Cowboy fan who wants this balldropper on the team is not a real Cowboy fan. Tex Schram and Tom Landry would never have hired this piece of sh*t..
Rant Over !!!!!
 
thebigt said:
some people cant handle success. i think parcells said it best, 'dont break out the annointing oil yet'. colts by 9 over baltimore. patriots by 6 over chargers. afc championship game at indy. my chrystal ball hasnt told me the outcome yet.
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final score colts 15 ravens6- looks like 9 points to me.:bow28:
 
Well, I obviously gave jamal lewis too much credit. Those missed interceptions, the bad holding call, and the interception that was still in bounds but called out were all a huge part of preventing td's scored. Colts played a much more technically sound game and I respect the defense for stepping it up like they did. I originally had the saints picked to win tonight but my gut tells me the eagles. So Eagles for the win and tomorrow The patriots. Although the chargers are a great team the patriots are a completely different team in the playoffs. So much for my original picks.
 
TheCSWFighter said:
Jamal Lewis and Steve Mcnair on offense. Don't even get me started on the Ravens Defense. They have the pass rush that most teams the colts have played don't have. Colts have proven time and time again that they don't know how to go against a 3-4 defense. I feel all the other games can go either way but I just can't bring myself to think that the colts may have a chance.
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thanks for your insight.
 
ok my chrystal ball is hazy, havent put much effort into nfc. been focused on afc. but if i had to guess, saints win. garcia's luck runs out.
 
hey, the colts still have yet to prove themselves against a 3-4 defense. I didn't see them scoring any td's. The defense held up it was just the ravens offense being very inconsistant.


I wouldn't call what garcia has been doing luck. It's not just garcia, it's the eagles defense and brian westbrook adding depth to the offense.
 
come on man give up the props,i was right and you were wrong. i said dont know much about the nfc, just making a guess.
 
thebigt said:
ok my chrystal ball is hazy, havent put much effort into nfc. been focused on afc. but if i had to guess, saints win. garcia's luck runs out.
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Garcia's luck ran out suspiciously at the same time that Duece Mccallister ran all over the Eagles "D". I think they had like 500 yards of offense. Still, when Bush botched that pich late in the game, I though maybe the gods of luck were with the Eagles, but those last 4 downs of the Eagles offense were most uninspiring!
 
i guess luck was the wrong word. garcia put together a nice string of wins when mcnabb went down, not putting garcia down, just think everything was going his way, i guessed it was time for that to change
 
close game though. The Eagles defense was very sloppy with their tackling. They started the game out with a HUGE hit on bush that looked like it was gonna take him out and then after that it all went down hill. That and there few big succesful plays were killed by offensive penalties. That choice to punt with 1:56 left and one timeout was a terrible decision.
 
anabolicrhino said:
Garcia's luck ran out suspiciously at the same time that Duece Mccallister ran all over the Eagles "D". I think they had like 500 yards of offense. Still, when Bush botched that pich late in the game, I though maybe the gods of luck were with the Eagles, but those last 4 downs of the Eagles offense were most uninspiring!
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I don't think Garcia has anything to do with this at all. I tihnk the fact that their D line and LB's got blow off the ball every single time. Thats the bottom line. The got outplayed in the trenches and completely man handled on the line. When you KNOW they are going to run and you KNOW they are trying to run out the clock and you give up 10 yards in 2 downs on the ground....you got no shot.
 
TheCSWFighter said:
That choice to punt with 1:56 left and one timeout was a terrible decision.
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Its not even Monday yet and here it starts....

..if you look at the %'s he did make the right call.


The chance to make 4 and 15 is 8%.

They BARELY made that 4-10 because of pressure...add another 5 yards to that route and you have no chance with a backup linemen (who committed the false start in the first place).

If you go for it again you telling your defense you have more confidence in a backup than your whole defensive core. In the end, both failed.

If you are a defense and you KNOW they are going to run 3 straight times, you should be able to stop them 9 out of 10 times. There is a HUGE difference between not knowing and knowing what your opponent is going to do every down. If you know, you should stop it.
 
And have you had a look at the percentage of a team driving it down a good 70 yards with less than 30 seconds percentage points? It's just as slim. You have confidence in your quarterback and recievers ability and you have confidence in your defense to keep the opposing team to atleast a field goal worst case scenario. In that case a touchdown with a field goal would still win the game. It was a bad call. Done and done
 
going for it does not say you have more confidence in a backup. That lineman is one out of 6 other lineman. I highly doubt anyone on the defensive side of the ball would get all butt hurt and look at it like "cmon coach you have more confidence in him then us?" Hell no! It'd show he has confidence in his offense as a whole and in his defense that if they don't complete a third down conversion he knows it's no big deal because his defense will stop that ball from traveling any further. I don't understand your logic at all. Him going for it would display an overall confidence in the entire team. By him not going for it, he didn't show confidence in either his defense or his offense but rather showed it in his special teams.
 
TheCSWFighter said:
And have you had a look at the percentage of a team driving it down a good 70 yards with less than 30 seconds percentage points? It's just as slim. You have confidence in your quarterback and recievers ability and you have confidence in your defense to keep the opposing team to atleast a field goal worst case scenario. In that case a touchdown with a field goal would still win the game. It was a bad call. Done and done
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No its not.

Driving 70 yards to score a TD is much harder than driving 30-40 yards and kicking a fieldgoal.

It wasn't a bad call and most of the coaches interviewed agreed. Its a tough call but 4 and 15 after a false start on the BACKUP, considering his is getting pressured all day isn't wise at all.

Done and done? Yeah, just like the Colts not having a chance. :rolleyes: :D
 
TheCSWFighter said:
going for it does not say you have more confidence in a backup. That lineman is one out of 6 other lineman. I highly doubt anyone on the defensive side of the ball would get all butt hurt and look at it like "cmon coach you have more confidence in him then us?" Hell no! It'd show he has confidence in his offense as a whole and in his defense that if they don't complete a third down conversion he knows it's no big deal because his defense will stop that ball from traveling any further. I don't understand your logic at all. Him going for it would display an overall confidence in the entire team. By him not going for it, he didn't show confidence in either his defense or his offense but rather showed it in his special teams.
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And he is the one that committed the false start.

The entire team? The barely made 4-10 and committed a false start because you HAVE A BACKUP IN THERE in the superdome. There isn't a coach in this league that has confidence that a team is going to make 4-15 with a backup lineman in a group that uses nothing but silent counts in the superdome on your own 30.

He jumped early and what happened? They STILL got pressure on him. 4-15 just makes it worse on your own 30 yard line.

Bottom line is if you KNOW your opponetn is going to run the ball 3 straight times, and you have 2 time outs then you bet on your defense stopping them moreso than completing a 4-15 in which you have been getting pressure all day.

He made the right choice. Your logic is careless in every way.
 
Bobo said:
It the Ravens offense shows up they will win...if not Indy will squeek it out.


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NO will beat the Eagles (the ride is over!! :( )
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2-2.
 
How much did not having McNabb change the outcome of just this game? (Not talking the end of the regular season...)
 
jmh80 said:
How much did not having McNabb change the outcome of just this game? (Not talking the end of the regular season...)
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The ability to throw the deep ball isn't really there with Garcia like it is with Mcnabb. In fact, last night was the only time Garcia went deep that much (because of blown coverage). His strenght is 10 yards and in, not 15 yards and over.

They are both successful in different ways.
 
Bobo said:
And he is the one that committed the false start.

The entire team? The barely made 4-10 and committed a false start because you HAVE A BACKUP IN THERE in the superdome. There isn't a coach in this league that has confidence that a team is going to make 4-15 with a backup lineman in a group that uses nothing but silent counts in the superdome on your own 30.

He jumped early and what happened? They STILL got pressure on him. 4-15 just makes it worse on your own 30 yard line.

Bottom line is if you KNOW your opponetn is going to run the ball 3 straight times, and you have 2 time outs then you bet on your defense stopping them moreso than completing a 4-15 in which you have been getting pressure all day.

He made the right choice. Your logic is careless in every way.
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It's not careless, it's aggressive. NFL differs alot from highschool. Yes in highschool that'd be a great call but in the NFL anything can happen. If you want to get technical there is alot of plays that shouldn't have been called or players that should have stepped up on certain plays. I'm saying it's a bad call and I'm sticking with it. Am I saying that is a game turning call? No because there are alot of other plays that could havew gone better. You punt on 4 and 15 with 1 minute and 47 seconds left in a tie game. Not when your down by three.
 
The ravens did show up but lost. The defense was all there. Steve McNair just isn't the caliber player to take a team to a superbowl
 
That lack of the deep ball would seem to really limit what Stallworth can do. I remember in college he wasn't a possession/go over the middle type of guy - more of an up the field/long ball guy.
 
TheCSWFighter said:
It's not careless, it's aggressive. NFL differs alot from highschool. Yes in highschool that'd be a great call but in the NFL anything can happen. If you want to get technical there is alot of plays that shouldn't have been called or players that should have stepped up on certain plays. I'm saying it's a bad call and I'm sticking with it. Am I saying that is a game turning call? No because there are alot of other plays that could havew gone better. You punt on 4 and 15 with 1 minute and 47 seconds left in a tie game. Not when your down by three.
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Banking your whole season on 1 play when you have 2 minutes to go with 2 timeouts is not aggressive, its unwise especially when you take into consideration your personnel, the conditions, the time and the %'s.


Its the reason why every analyst after the game said it was the right decision. The onyl ones who disagreed are the ones who have never played or coached. Thank God Stuart Scott isn't the coach.

Yes, you do punt on 4-15 when you have almost 2 minutes and 2 timouts left on your own 30 and you KNOW they are going to try and run out the clock.

The percentages are with the defense stopping known running plays vs. a 4-15 on your 30 with a backup linemen (who already can't take the noise) in the dome with a line using silent counts.

You can get technical all you want, I don't pretend to know more about coaches standing on the sideline.
 
jmh80 said:
That lack of the deep ball would seem to really limit what Stallworth can do. I remember in college he wasn't a possession/go over the middle type of guy - more of an up the field/long ball guy.
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The Eagles don't have really good possession receivers. Its another reason why you don't go for it on 4-15 on your own 30. You are basically going against everything they have been with Garcia and that's a short pass, ball controlled offense. ;)
 
Many moons ago too...
 
TheCSWFighter said:
The ravens did show up but lost. The defense was all there. Steve McNair just isn't the caliber player to take a team to a superbowl
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If you score 6 points, you didn't show up. Only half of them did. I guess they need the caliber of player Trent Dilfer was then.


:lol:
 
Ehh, I think limiting a team to no TD's and forcing the colts to make two FG from further than 45 yards, keeping peyton manning under 200 yards, 50% completions, 2 INTs, and the total rushing yards below 100 in 32 attempts is a hell of a defensive game. 30 plays passing and 32 plays rushing. I'm not sure who your comparing the ravens defense to but it sure as hell isn't any teams in the nfl.
 
TheCSWFighter said:
Ehh, I think limiting a team to no TD's and forcing the colts to make two FG from further than 45 yards, keeping peyton manning under 200 yards, 50% completions, 2 INTs, and the total rushing yards below 100 in 32 attempts is a hell of a defensive game. 30 plays passing and 32 plays rushing. I'm not sure who your comparing the ravens defense to but it sure as hell isn't any teams in the nfl.
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And what did all that get them?


6 points.


Half the team showed up. It reflects what I said previously.

"If the Ravens offense shows up they will win...if not Indy will squeek it out."

Ask Ray Lewis if he cares about what they gave up.
 
I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about half the defense showed up. The ravens offense has never really been that much of a force to be reckoned with
 
i havent had this good of a run since tyson v douglas. i won $2500 on a $50 dollar bet. just like i said AFC championship colts v pats at indy.:lol: :study:
 
TheCSWFighter said:
The only thing worse than an eagles fan is a raiders fan.
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YES SIR ! Raider fans are the scum of the earth, they surround me and they think they're football know it alls. They think they're tough because they beat up young teenage Chiefs and Broncos fans, they think Al Davis is a football master mind, and they are freaking annoying when you actually use logic in your arguments with them :rant:
 
Bobo said:
The Eagles don't have really good possession receivers. Its another reason why you don't go for it on 4-15 on your own 30. You are basically going against everything they have been with Garcia and that's a short pass, ball controlled offense. ;)
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Where's Freddie Mitchell when you need him for those possession routes :lol: I thought Philly could have passed to Westbrook more often. That guy can change a game with one play, other then that they did great considering what they had to work with.
 
Iron Warrior said:
Where's Freddie Mitchell when you need him for those possession routes :lol: I thought Philly could have passed to Westbrook more often. That guy can change a game with one play, other then that they did great considering what they had to work with.
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Great plays and a major drop! The one at the NO 38 with the whole of the right side of the field open... followed by a punt and no points.

Great ride! Anyone says they thought the Birds win out after Indy is lying!!!
 
A Giants ,Redskins,Cowboys and an Eagles fan are arguing who is the greatest fan... The Redskin fan pulls out a revolver... removes 3 bullets and lays it on the table." OK we yell our teams name and pull the trigger." "I will go first."

"Redskins" click!
"Giants" click!
"Eagles" and shoots the Cowboy fan :jaw:
 
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