No glycobol issues.
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ssbackwards
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yes to be expected from increase biliary flow.
Not sure if its the vanadyl or berberine, but it may be related to both.
Not sure if its the vanadyl or berberine, but it may be related to both.
owlicks
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I never had any issues with it either. From my experience, the nutrient partitioners seem to work differently for everyone. Out of Glycobol, Recompadrol, and SlinSane, SlinSane was the only one that worked for me. With that in mind, I just bought the main ingredients from it in bulk and saved a whole lot of money.
ssbackwards
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to clarify , what do you mean by work?
Pump? or leaning you out, by comparison Recompadrol and slin sane have 2 of the same active ingredients, and glycobol has non however has 2 similar ingredients to recompadrol.
but i know with recompadrol and gbol that the carb amount for pump is extremely important per capsule. So if by work you mean pump, you may want to try again with rdrol and gbol, gbol 70g carb per 2 caps for me worked, 130 g carb per 2 cap recompadrol from me worked. all workouts 1.5-2 hours after meal is when the effects happen best.
Slin sane can be 30 min prior to workout due to norvaline content.
Just something to think about.
Pump? or leaning you out, by comparison Recompadrol and slin sane have 2 of the same active ingredients, and glycobol has non however has 2 similar ingredients to recompadrol.
but i know with recompadrol and gbol that the carb amount for pump is extremely important per capsule. So if by work you mean pump, you may want to try again with rdrol and gbol, gbol 70g carb per 2 caps for me worked, 130 g carb per 2 cap recompadrol from me worked. all workouts 1.5-2 hours after meal is when the effects happen best.
Slin sane can be 30 min prior to workout due to norvaline content.
Just something to think about.
AaronJP1
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I dose 2 caps with anything around 35+ grams of carbs.
Some use the 1 cap 40g carb or less method but that gets tricky and a bit confusing. Most of your carbs sound be around your workout and it's better they are complex. So that's where I think the best effects will be seen.
Some use the 1 cap 40g carb or less method but that gets tricky and a bit confusing. Most of your carbs sound be around your workout and it's better they are complex. So that's where I think the best effects will be seen.
stxnas
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Thanks for sharing. I see you make your way around the forums, too.
Ssbackwards,
From what I have read, it seems to be from the berberine...who knows though, may very likely be from both. I have definitely found that it's important to carefully plan what you eat with any of the supps of this nature, AP, Glycobol, Yellow Gold, Slin Sane, etc.
Ssbackwards,
From what I have read, it seems to be from the berberine...who knows though, may very likely be from both. I have definitely found that it's important to carefully plan what you eat with any of the supps of this nature, AP, Glycobol, Yellow Gold, Slin Sane, etc.
ssbackwards
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i run nutrient repartitioners throughout the day on keto
heres somthign interesting on ALA
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just read the whole thing
Seems that it may be best to eat animal based protein while taking anything with ALA due to it being leucine rich and activating mTOR
however decreased food intake with increased energy expediture can account for additional LBM loss. But they are saying it inhibits protein synthesis to a degree (probably with high doses but in a high protein diet leucine rich you should be able to blunt that effect)
heres somthign interesting on ALA
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just read the whole thing
Seems that it may be best to eat animal based protein while taking anything with ALA due to it being leucine rich and activating mTOR
however decreased food intake with increased energy expediture can account for additional LBM loss. But they are saying it inhibits protein synthesis to a degree (probably with high doses but in a high protein diet leucine rich you should be able to blunt that effect)
John Smeton
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I take glycobol after after workout generally. Good stuff. ive tried so many ways of playing with it0 if you have any questions regarding glycobol ill be glad to help
Bulkypinoy61
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Very interesting and a good read as well
Im actually logging it over at BB.com
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I usually take 2 in the morning along with about 90-100grams of carbs (oatmeal), then another one along with my pre workout meal, and the last one along with my dinner.
AaronJP1
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First of all stxnas is one bad ass rep. (hope your sis is doing ok too by the way).
Nas answered all my questions in a timely fashion, didn't have a prickish attitude, more than friendly and super above all helpful. (ZackMorris is too btw).
The AI company is one to be looked, mom & pops or not they are about quality.
Glycobol I couldn't be happier with, solid sup made be a solid company with the reps being some solid good gang of group guys, I just placed my 2nd order with AI, and about 60% of that was because Nas Was so helpful.
Glycobol is one of my new faves so far & it's non hormonal!
Nas answered all my questions in a timely fashion, didn't have a prickish attitude, more than friendly and super above all helpful. (ZackMorris is too btw).
The AI company is one to be looked, mom & pops or not they are about quality.
Glycobol I couldn't be happier with, solid sup made be a solid company with the reps being some solid good gang of group guys, I just placed my 2nd order with AI, and about 60% of that was because Nas Was so helpful.
Glycobol is one of my new faves so far & it's non hormonal!
AaronJP1
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stxnas said:
I tried it with a gainer shake this morning about 850 calories and 120 complex carbs. I don't think I noticed a huge difference I got no bloat, and my muslces do seem to look fuller & more hard. I'm not in a week yet. I put up more opinions as time goes on.
Also thx for the reps you guys gave me, I'm get ya back ASAP.
ssbackwards
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when taking any nutrient repartioner its important what carbs you choose and when you workout for pump.
some carbs are faster to hit then others as you know.
Also insulin as its shown may be more selective to fat tissue at the higher concentrations which is why i never recommend high glycemic carbs unless the goal is insulin and leptin stimulation (which glycobol and recompadrol lower more then slin sane) which attenuates overal fat accumulation via reduced circulating leptin and lower insulin peaks.
some carbs are faster to hit then others as you know.
Also insulin as its shown may be more selective to fat tissue at the higher concentrations which is why i never recommend high glycemic carbs unless the goal is insulin and leptin stimulation (which glycobol and recompadrol lower more then slin sane) which attenuates overal fat accumulation via reduced circulating leptin and lower insulin peaks.
Makeshift
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Glad everyone has enjoyed Glycobol! I absolutely love it...
I was asked a question by one of the other reps so I will address it here... The ? was if its beneficial to take a protein shake prior to a meal with Gbol...The answer is yes. Although the carbs from your meal are the "main focus" here, ALL nutrients that are sitting in your stomach will be pulled into your muscles. So in the case of a post-wo meal you drink your shake then 15-20 min later take your glycobol and eat your meal(immediatley for bulking wait 30 min for cutting) the protein in your shake wouldnt have broken down all the way yet and will get pulled into the "vacuum" along with your meal... Personally I like to drink a Carnivore shake Post-WO then take Gbol and eat. Muscles are pumped the rest of the night! And With the 3Z/HGHpro stack I take at night I sleep like a BABY! lol
I hope that explination makes sense and answered the question. If yall have any other questions please feel free to PM me or any of the other reps.
I was asked a question by one of the other reps so I will address it here... The ? was if its beneficial to take a protein shake prior to a meal with Gbol...The answer is yes. Although the carbs from your meal are the "main focus" here, ALL nutrients that are sitting in your stomach will be pulled into your muscles. So in the case of a post-wo meal you drink your shake then 15-20 min later take your glycobol and eat your meal(immediatley for bulking wait 30 min for cutting) the protein in your shake wouldnt have broken down all the way yet and will get pulled into the "vacuum" along with your meal... Personally I like to drink a Carnivore shake Post-WO then take Gbol and eat. Muscles are pumped the rest of the night! And With the 3Z/HGHpro stack I take at night I sleep like a BABY! lol
I hope that explination makes sense and answered the question. If yall have any other questions please feel free to PM me or any of the other reps.
Makeshift
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It a very good article and I do agree with the fact that its best to eat animal based protein(such as a Carnivore shake or any beef, chicken, fish protein) But even with a high protein diet blunting the effect would be tough...Youd have to have an extremely high protein intake IMO
Makeshift
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Basically if you take the pills 20-30 min beforea meal they'l start to "dissolve" and by time you eat it'll be ready to pump the fresh nutrients straight into your muscles. The less time the food sits in your stomach the better. That way the nutrients wont get used for another purpose. They can be utilized for the rebuilding process...And therefore your body will utilize more fat cells for "fuel"
The opposite occurs when you take them with your meal.
That a better explination? Its not the easiet thing to describe lol
The opposite occurs when you take them with your meal.
That a better explination? Its not the easiet thing to describe lol
AaronJP1
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Makeshift said:
So by taking it with the meal glycobol is "working less" so to speak and some of the carbs may get used as fat storage so to speak on a bulk? Am I wrong?
Guess the best/popular way to take them is 20 minutes before so you can also burn fat. You also have to not over eat for this to occur also. *head spinning* lol.
I've been sticking to 2 caps 20 minutes b4 a meal with at least 25g carbs I try and make em complex that doesn't always happen (downsides to this?) but I think an I say think that works for me and I want to burn some bodyfat.
(There's also that 1/1/1/1 dosing.)
ssbackwards
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I think you have it wrong makeshift
U take the pills before meal to inhibite adipocyte differentiation and activate glut 4 recepters and lower leptin bulking or cuttong won't matter with times. Just eat more since berberine increases thermogenisis through erk pathway
U take the pills before meal to inhibite adipocyte differentiation and activate glut 4 recepters and lower leptin bulking or cuttong won't matter with times. Just eat more since berberine increases thermogenisis through erk pathway
Bulkypinoy61
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Let me know if you guys have any logging opputtunities for a Swole stack or some g bol
Yessir
John Smeton
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possible that it could be the same in the US so now would be the time to buy some
Glad you found two favorite products =) I love AI
criticalbench
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I've found for a pump with nutrient partitioners, eating soup, I use a chicken broth with egg noodles to get 60g carbs. The high sodium content and carbs with the nutrient partitioner really makes the fullness, vascularity, and pumps stand out especially from isolated water retention.
Mike
Mike
ssbackwards
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has to do with the Na+ channels
i notice good pumps with bacon and eggs, high sodium content makes the veins realy pop.
ssbackwards
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that is much more effective on low carb not on regular carb days
AaronJP1
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ssbackwards said:
They say 1 cap can be used with 50g of carbs. So it can be do either way; but yes if you're getting around 25g then I could see it being more beneficial.
To some people low carb days are less than 100g a day others use less than 50g a day. So really I don't know too well whats the bench mark for high or low. My guess would be 100g or less would be low & 250+ would be high? I'm by far an expert at this though.
ssbackwards
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if i do more then 35-40g carbs with glycobol i take 2 caps. 100 carbs i take 3
but depends on the reaction you want from the product, pump, lipolysis, or just weight management.
ssbackwards
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depends at the tail end of using gbol i hit like 12 a day,
i currently do not use it any more though
i was doing 1 cap pre meal and one cap inbetween meals.
John Smeton
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12 a day? God all mighty that sounds extreme
did you experience low blood sugar feeling with the one capsule between meals?
what results did you see at the dosing other than a lot of pooping =)?
Most ill go is 4 a day
ssbackwards
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no, its honestly not that potent and its dependant on sugar intake, all these GDAs lower work only in presence of glucose. Activates glut4 ppara/y but wont lower sugar unless present or levels are high circulating.
Yes a ton of pooping at first, i do it on keto so its alpha glucosidase inhibitors wont effect me since no carbs. yanno.
ssbackwards
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for example to be safe and continue fat burning post workout i took 1800mg ALA and 6 caps recompadrol prior to a scooped out hero with grilled chicken feta bacon roasted red pepper cole slaw and ketchup, 1/3 box life cereal, 1/3box hemp and flax granola with honey, sunflower seed butter and white chocolate pb.
total carbs about 320.
i do it to be sure fat gains minimal. cals were high but it was all post workout, and ill only protein the rest of the day.
no low sugar feelings EVER
I take 3 recompadrol and 600mg ALA prior to each meal (only 2 meals a day) and 300mg ALA inbetween meals with fat burners.
total carbs about 320.
i do it to be sure fat gains minimal. cals were high but it was all post workout, and ill only protein the rest of the day.
no low sugar feelings EVER
I take 3 recompadrol and 600mg ALA prior to each meal (only 2 meals a day) and 300mg ALA inbetween meals with fat burners.
ssbackwards
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definetly not from any nutrient repartitioner.
stxnas
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John Smeton
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very Vt compared it to about 10 iu of real insulin as hes done the real deal before