Night Sweats on Tren

mikeyb123

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I have been on T-Roid (Tren Designer Oral) for 2 weeks now 60mg.

For the last week or so I have been having major bed sweats. I will wake up around 4am freezing my balls off as I am totally drenched from head to toe. Last night my t-shirt was that wet I was able to ring water from it!

I am also taking ZMA an hour before bed.

Is there anything else I can take to stop this? Or is this just a side affect I have to put up with?

Thanks
 
I wouldnt look at it as a bad thing.It sucks but in a way it proves that what your taking is close to the[ real deal] I just started [2days] a very similar sup trenadrol ,same dose, and have not noticed much[still to early]when did you start to feel anything from it?
 
the "tren" designer steroid has NOTHING to do with injectable tren. ur probably just sick if ur getting bad night sweats
 
skull said:
I wouldnt look at it as a bad thing.It sucks but in a way it proves that what your taking is close to the[ real deal] I just started [2days] a very similar sup trenadrol ,same dose, and have not noticed much[still to early]when did you start to feel anything from it?
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After about 4 days my weight was up by 10lbs. My thirst went through the roof so I think its mainly water weight. My strength has gone up and up. Gone from 24kg dumbel shoulder press to 28kg in 2 weeks. Has worked well for me so far.

Not saying this is real Tren, just wondered if anyone had similar symtoms and if they knew of any way to make it better!

Thanks
 
I wonder if it has anything to do with the apparent thermogenic effects of T-Roid, probably makes me feel cold so i get snuggled up but then I COOK.
 
Yeah this stuff isn't real Tren so it shouldn't cause night sweats in the same way, in fact i've never heard of 19-nor 'tren' products causing night sweats but it's certainly possible.

Just make sure to get plenty of water... sounds like only 60mg is effecting you strongly, nice.
 
I'm on Tren right now and have the exact same issue nearly every night. I'm on the 3rd week of my cycle and it started with me about 10 days ago. I'm taking more than the recommended dosage on lifting days and on those nights I wake up at 3 am completely drenched from head to toe from night sweats. It's pretty annoying and I'm beginning to think the gains I've seen so far might not be worth wrecking my sleep every night.
 
mikeyb123 said:
I wonder if it has anything to do with the apparent thermogenic effects of T-Roid, probably makes me feel cold so i get snuggled up but then I COOK.
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yea, trenadrol supposed to have a thermogenic effect and high BP but I havent had any of it,in fact I take a mild stim[ AMP ] When I workout---so thinking im one of those non responders? but its to early to tell---I was all set to run real tren [I have in the past] but I recently lost job+insurance so I dont want to risk an abcess [many injections] so I figure its safer to run a nonmeth oral
 
UnrealMachine said:
Yeah this stuff isn't real Tren so it shouldn't cause night sweats in the same way, in fact i've never heard of 19-nor 'tren' products causing night sweats but it's certainly possible.

Just make sure to get plenty of water... sounds like only 60mg is effecting you strongly, nice.
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Just weighed myself now (first time in 3 days) I am up 14lbs. Still a visable 6 pack.... strength was up again in the gym.

Going to 90mg dose tomorrow for the last 3 weeks.

Fingers crossed I dont wake up wet through tonight.
 
mikeyb123 said:
Just weighed myself now (first time in 3 days) I am up 14lbs. Still a visable 6 pack.... strength was up again in the gym.

Going to 90mg dose tomorrow for the last 3 weeks.

Fingers crossed I dont wake up wet through tonight.
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you might want to consider using an AI with that extreme weight gain
 
AI, sorry whats that?

Last night was the worst of all. I had to get up 3 times to towel myself down. going through bed sheets fast at the moment!

I did find a way to stop it though after the 3rd time. I put my heater on so it was quite hot in my room, I then laid on top of my bed and slept fine.
 
mikeyb123 said:
AI, sorry whats that?

Last night was the worst of all. I had to get up 3 times to towel myself down. going through bed sheets fast at the moment!

I did find a way to stop it though after the 3rd time. I put my heater on so it was quite hot in my room, I then laid on top of my bed and slept fine.
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Arimidex (Anastrozole) is what we call an aromatase inhibitor (AI). In clinical use, it´s used to halt the progression of Breast Cancer in women. It works by blocking the aromatase enzyme, which is responsible for the production of estrogen. In athletics and bodybuilding, it is used as an ancillary compound to be added to a cycle of Anabolic Steroids. In this respect it is also used for its estrogen reducing properties, but it has the additional benefit of increasing testosterone levels, as we´ll see...

Many anabolic steroids aromatize (convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme), and this is responsible for many of the unwanted side effects found with anabolic steroid use (acne, gynocomastia, water-retention, etc...). In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). In that same study, in both groups, LH and FSH also went up slightly.
 
skull said:
Arimidex (Anastrozole) is what we call an aromatase inhibitor (AI). In clinical use, it´s used to halt the progression of Breast Cancer in women. It works by blocking the aromatase enzyme, which is responsible for the production of estrogen. In athletics and bodybuilding, it is used as an ancillary compound to be added to a cycle of Anabolic Steroids. In this respect it is also used for its estrogen reducing properties, but it has the additional benefit of increasing testosterone levels, as we´ll see...

Many anabolic steroids aromatize (convert to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme), and this is responsible for many of the unwanted side effects found with anabolic steroid use (acne, gynocomastia, water-retention, etc...). In one study, both .5mg and 1mg doses of Arimidex were shown to decrease estrogen by roughly 50%. The 1mg/day dose also increased testosterone levels by 58% (1). In that same study, in both groups, LH and FSH also went up slightly.
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thanks Skull. Would you recomend me using this then while I am on T-roid? I thought T-roid did not produce an increase in eastrogen?

Thanks
 
mikeyb123 said:
thanks Skull. Would you recomend me using this then while I am on T-roid? I thought T-roid did not produce an increase in eastrogen?

Thanks
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You need to do a little research,there are many different AI s ,avalible.T-roid is suppoed to be like tren but what it really is or turns into is Dienolone and[ its not supposed to] but it does raise estrogen in a lot of people and if you check,more than a few got gyno---so I dont know how experienced you are or what you have planned for PCT but when you mentioned about water weight/night sweats/and a lot of weight gain --you could be setting your self up for trouble--- theres a good thread you should read here at AM --DIENOLONE & BOLDDOINE TESTING INFO-CHECK IT OUT
 
Thanks for your help....

For PCT I was going for....

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Tribulus

From what I have read it sounds like the gyno is caused from prolactin so Clomid should sort that out on my PCT. But should I take anything while on cycle? I have 3 weeks left and am UK based so dont know how easy it will be for me to get hold of something to help me.

Will read that thread now.

Thanks
 
mikeyb123 said:
Thanks for your help....

For PCT I was going for....

Clomid 100/100/50/50
Tribulus

From what I have read it sounds like the gyno is caused from prolactin so Clomid should sort that out on my PCT. But should I take anything while on cycle? I have 3 weeks left and am UK based so dont know how easy it will be for me to get hold of something to help me.

Will read that thread now.

Thanks
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Ive used nolva before, but not clomid [somthing about a chance of going blind?-]prolactin &estrogen all gyno related---anyway I always use some kind of estrogen control while "on" but thats just me--in the states there are many choices [AIs] or serums
 
Since the worry about Gyno my right nipple has started to tingle dont know if its in my head though!

Anyone know of anything I can take to stop any Gyno while on that I can get easily in the UK? I am on ZMA at the moment.
 
mikeyb123 said:
Since the worry about Gyno my right nipple has started to tingle dont know if its in my head though!

Anyone know of anything I can take to stop any Gyno while on that I can get easily in the UK? I am on ZMA at the moment.
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what you might be able to get easily that works fairly well is Androstenetrione = 6oxo/or 1,4,6,androstatriene-3,17-dione =ATD which is a little stronger
 
Why buy Estrodex?

Creates an optimum anabolic environment reducing estrogen levels and increasing testosterone levels
Reduces water retention and bodyfat accumulation associated with hightened estrogen levels
Combats other potentially possible side effects of hightened estrogen levels such as gyno and acne.

Amount Per Serving

Calcium D-Glucarate 300mg
Urtica Dioica (Aqueous ext., Aerial parts) - 120mg
Diindolemethane (DIM) 100mg
3,5,4'TriHydroxy-Transstilbene (20% Resaveratrol, 10% Emodin) 50mg

Other ingredients: Micro Crystalline Cellulose, Barley Flour.
Take 3 Capsules preferably 2-3 times daily with meals. We also suggest to implement EstroDex 3-4 weeks before cycle end to decrease estrogen accumulation.


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I can get this on my lunch break??? Is it what I need?

Thanks
 
mikeyb123 said:
Why buy Estrodex?

Creates an optimum anabolic environment reducing estrogen levels and increasing testosterone levels
Reduces water retention and bodyfat accumulation associated with hightened estrogen levels
Combats other potentially possible side effects of hightened estrogen levels such as gyno and acne.

Amount Per Serving

Calcium D-Glucarate 300mg
Urtica Dioica (Aqueous ext., Aerial parts) - 120mg
Diindolemethane (DIM) 100mg
3,5,4'TriHydroxy-Transstilbene (20% Resaveratrol, 10% Emodin) 50mg-Other ingredients: Micro Crystalline Cellulose, Barley Flour.
Take 3 Capsules preferably 2-3 times daily with meals. We also suggest to implement EstroDex 3-4 weeks before cycle end to decrease estrogen accumulation.


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I can get this on my lunch break??? Is it what I need?

Thanks
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---you might want to get somthing a little stronger [thats just a bunch of herbs and it was made to use well before cycle] the ones I said are good-----I read your mess/ and on that site [novadex by gaspari] has a good rep
 
Ok ordered 6oxo. I cant find anywhere local to pick it up. It should be here in a couple of days.... I am pretty sure I have a tingle in my right nipple. It feels like its cold and numb. Is that gyno you think? I cant really tell if its puffy!

Should I stop taking T-roid and go to my clomid PCT now? Or will i be ok once i start taking 6oxo.
 
Ahhhh I didnt actually order 6oxo it has a 7 working days delivery time with it. Dam UK!

On Way to buy Novadex from shop now.

Thanks
 
I dont think you need to stop the T-roid [but thats just me] sometimes when you start messing around with "nips" it just makes it worse,as long as you get the n-dex going should be ok?only you know if its bad--but have the clomid ready.Did you end up going up to 3caps/90mg?
 
skull said:
I dont think you need to stop the T-roid [but thats just me] sometimes when you start messing around with "nips" it just makes it worse,as long as you get the n-dex going should be ok?only you know if its bad--but have the clomid ready.Did you end up going up to 3caps/90mg?
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Yeah been on them 2 days now. The tingly nips started about the same time!

The guy in the shop told me Novedex XT is a copy of Nolva..... this kind of made me worried about whether or not i should take it? As i hear Nolva can cause gyno problems in desginer tren products?

What dosage of the Novedex shoudl i take?

Thanks
 
mikeyb123 said:
Yeah been on them 2 days now. The tingly nips started about the same time!

The guy in the shop told me Novedex XT is a copy of Nolva..... this kind of made me worried about whether or not i should take it? As i hear Nolva can cause gyno problems in desginer tren products?

What dosage of the Novedex shoudl i take?

Thanks
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just take whats recomended--I am tying to find out from a guy who seems to have a lot of inside info on these type of supps if T-roid /TRENADROL contains or turns into methyldienolone or nonmethyldienlone because according to that article I asked you to read --nonmeth can be treated with novdex/clomid ect but the meth version seems to act more like a tren type of gyno ,and you would use somthing like bomo-/cabergoline-- ect
 
Most of its ads that say it doesn't aromitize are using info based on Tren. But Estra-4,9-Diene-3,17b-dione doesn't convert to Tren - as Dienolone & Tren are quite different unlike all the misleading ads.

I have PA's article where he says 'it doesn't appear from his knowledge to aromitize' but nobody really knows exactly what it is or how it works. He's also talking about indirect aromatization - after conversion to dienolone. But since it appears to have strong direct activity pre-conversion, and the fact that it's a dione, means it could easily aromatize directly.

It's a strange compound in many ways. Methyl-Dienolone has very strong progestinal activity, regular Dienolone has very minimal progestinal activity. Dienolone has a RBA of 17 at the progesterone receptor. As opposed to Methyl-D which has a RBA of 71 for the progesterone receptor. Also another thing that's strange is regular Dienolone has a much stronger binding affinity for the androgen receptor than its methylated counterpart.
 
Thanks for your posts skull you have been very helpful. Going to just double check with somone about if i shoudl take Novedex and then i should start taking it tonight.

Thanks
 
i would not take the novedex xt, during or for pct. With the dienelone your puffiness is prolactin related, not estrogen... novedex xt could aggravate your situation, and cause someother gyno related problems later on after pct. For prolactin issues you can try mucuna puriens, and P-5-P( a form of b6) As far as your pct I would stick with clomid. Probably about the beginning of your 3rd week of pct you could start running resveratrol(i-force) In conclusion though I think an over the counter AI would do more harm than good. Good luck man...
 
I've used Xtreme Tren (a 19-nor product) 3 times and don't remember ever getting night sweats. The oldtimers of this forum used to recommend vitamin C during and after cycle. "Steroids" lower your immune system; increase in strength means you'll want to lift more at the gym, which equals more stress on your CNS also leading to lowering of the immune system. People with extremely low or non-existent immune system get night sweats. So, I'd add vitamin C to your supplement lineup and nap during the day if possible, or at least on weekends.

Thirst increases with just about any anabolic or androgenic you take, at least it does for me.
 
opperater79 said:
i would not take the novedex xt, during or for pct. With the dienelone your puffiness is prolactin related, not estrogen... novedex xt could aggravate your situation, and cause someother gyno related problems later on after pct. For prolactin issues you can try mucuna puriens, and P-5-P( a form of b6) As far as your pct I would stick with clomid. Probably about the beginning of your 3rd week of pct you could start running resveratrol(i-force) In conclusion though I think an over the counter AI would do more harm than good. Good luck man...
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