Next PES Insider Deal???

What did I miss?? New ABE?? I just ordered 2 tubs of HV and 2 tubs of Creatine. I saw the label looked different but didn't really pay much attention.
 
ma70 said:
Hmm, how can we tell the new versus the old version? Do we have to wait for sites to change labels, etc?
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in the new one there is cistamax as a new ingredient, so check the label and/or the list of ingredients on the websites, usually tho they show the label, I am sure they will change the picture as well so basically I dont think you could miss it..
 
Xrkc6x said:
in the new one there is cistamax as a new ingredient, so check the label and/or the list of ingredients on the websites, usually tho they show the label, I am sure they will change the picture as well so basically I dont think you could miss it..
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Yeah I know that much, but some sites are slow to update their info even if they have it. Just making sure.
 
ma70 said:
Yeah I know that much, but some sites are slow to update their info even if they have it. Just making sure.
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i know that, I see what you mean... if you have doubts, check the ingredients and ask them, send email, I usually do that when I have doubts to double check the supplement I am buying is the right one :)
 
To those inquiring about a comparison to the original Analyzed CistaMAX, we are now using a more concentrated extract, equivalent to 2 capsules of CistaMAX
 
And, I'm not sure on the dosage of cistamax as I've never used it, but it seems from other threads the dosage was 4 cistamax and ABE has 2. Is half the dosage enough to see anything?
 
Woody said:
And, I'm not sure on the dosage of cistamax as I've never used it, but it seems from other threads the dosage was 4 cistamax and ABE has 2. Is half the dosage enough to see anything?
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AS CistaMax dosing was 4 caps. The extract used in AnaBeta Elite is a more concentrated extract, so the dose is the same, just more concentrated.
 
Would have liked to see CistaMax+ as apart of the superior essentials line to but having it in ABE isn't a bad move either
 
Auslifter said:
Would have liked to see CistaMax+ as apart of the superior essentials line to but having it in ABE isn't a bad move either
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The addition of CistaMax to AnaBeta Elite puts ABE on a whole different level. Very glad it was added to the formula.
 
Auslifter said:
Would have liked to see CistaMax+ as apart of the superior essentials line to but having it in ABE isn't a bad move either
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This too. It would have made good sense to keep the Siberian ginseng since everyone likes it the formula. Then just give us something ELSE to spend money on... I guess PES took it easy on us all this time
 
More studies will be shared soon, in a hospital waiting room atm, but AM search function is great sometimes:


Some study compilation
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Reviews from CistaMAX release, and Cyrus answering questions
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Got my order today :D

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No samples however.....
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Btw did i recieve the old version of alphamine without SA2-A as i cannot see it on the label and it has the old logo.
 
glosss said:
Got my order today :D

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No samples however.....
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Btw did i recieve the old version of alphamine without SA2-A as i cannot see it on the label and it has the old logo.
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Hated that! Always looked forward to my samples from PES
 
YouBet33 said:
Hated that! Always looked forward to my samples from PES
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Lol yeah, wanted to try the pre and amino, was gonna order 6 months of each along with some anabeta but i guess ill wait for the insider or whatever for the new alphamine to be shipped along with it.
 
glosss said:
Got my order today :D

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No samples however.....

Btw did i recieve the old version of alphamine without SA2-A as i cannot see it on the label and it has the old logo.
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Which country are you in?
 
glosss said:
UK, i ordered from your site directly so i could get the new formula of alphamine :)
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SA2-A is a yohimbe extract so it is prohibited in the UK.

This is why yours will have the previous logo on it, the manufacturing runs are less frequent. :)
 
Well, cista seems to be very promissing, but Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus), as far as I know, has much more solid studies on humans.
Just some info of some articles:

The major finding of this study was the VO2 peak of the subjects elevated 12% (P < 0.05), endurance time improved 23% (P < 0.05) and the highest heart rate increased 4% (P < 0.05) significantly.
In elite runners given Siberian Ginseng, they finished their 10-kilometer race in 45 minutes, versus 52.6 minutes in the placebo group
In elite cyclists, a similarly profound effect was observed: 23.3% increase in total work performed and a 16.3% increase in time to exhaustion.

With such a solid data, I don't think PES would just remove this ingredient.
I think they will move it to another supp...
I guess it will be their new Pre-Workout!
As Siberian Ginseng is much more a performance enhancer than an anabolic ingredient, it makes more sense to be in a pre than in ABE.
Olympus Lab, for example, has it in their new Conqu3r Unleashed stim-free.

Was a good guess??? :-)
 
In between discussions of the insider deal and what the US version of Prolific will contain, I thought it would be a good idea to give away some free stuff.

Am I right?

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macwad said:
Well, cista seems to be very promissing, but Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus), as far as I know, has much more solid studies on humans.
Just some info of some articles:

The major finding of this study was the VO2 peak of the subjects elevated 12% (P < 0.05), endurance time improved 23% (P < 0.05) and the highest heart rate increased 4% (P < 0.05) significantly.
In elite runners given Siberian Ginseng, they finished their 10-kilometer race in 45 minutes, versus 52.6 minutes in the placebo group
In elite cyclists, a similarly profound effect was observed: 23.3% increase in total work performed and a 16.3% increase in time to exhaustion.

With such a solid data, I don't think PES would just remove this ingredient.
I think they will move it to another supp...
I guess it will be their new Pre-Workout!
As Siberian Ginseng is much more a performance enhancer than an anabolic ingredient, it makes more sense to be in a pre than in ABE.
Olympus Lab, for example, has it in their new Conqu3r Unleashed stim-free.

Was a good guess??? :-)
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Siberian Ginseng is a great ingredient but IMO, Cistanche Deserticola (Stem) Extract goes much better with AnaBeta Elite with its ability to help aid in muscle growth, recovery, strength, endurance, and overall performance.
 
I'll take Cistanche over Siberian Ginseng any day. Honestly, when I saw Cistanche released, I was hoping it'd somehow make it into any iteration of Anabeta Elite. Finally, it's come true.
 
ma70 said:
I'll take Cistanche over Siberian Ginseng any day. Honestly, when I saw Cistanche released, I was hoping it'd somehow make it into any iteration of Anabeta Elite. Finally, it's come true.
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I was in talks with Josh quite a while ago about Cistanche and he had me very excited.

I know it is a very expensive extract to source, so when I found out it would be going into AnaBeta Elite, I was very excited.
 
kbayne said:
I was in talks with Josh quite a while ago about Cistanche and he had me very excited.

I know it is a very expensive extract to source, so when I found out it would be going into AnaBeta Elite, I was very excited.
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Yeah, it's interesting how the cost is staying the same. Not complaining though.
 
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