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Might1

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Hi I'm back and feel fine after Christmas and new year now planing my new cycle currently 3rd week on bridge

1-ostarine 25mg ed
2-cardarine 20mg ed
3-testo booster 6 caps ed
4-speeman 4 caps ed
5-Liv 52 4 caps ed

In end of February planning to do

1-sd matrix 4 weeks
1w 20mg 2w 30mg 3 w 40mg 4w 40mg
2-trestolone olympic 6 weeks
1-25mg 2-50mg 3-75mg 4/6-100mg
3-arimistane 8 weeks for 50mg ed
4-liv 52 8 weeks 4 caps ed
5-milk thistle 10 weeks 2 caps ed

Than pct 4 weeks
1-nolva 40mg-20mg-20mg-20mg
2-ostarine 25mg-25mg-25mg-25mg
3-cardarine 20mg-20mg-20mg-20mg
4-test booster 6 caps ed
5-phosphatdileserine 4 caps ed

That's all my plans thanks for comments :-)
 
Using Ostarine for PCT is not good.
You’ll never recover at those doses as it can suppress

I don’t think cardarine Supresses so maybe it’ll aid you in PCT. I’m not sure
 
Does anyone know what the active ingredient is in SD Matrix (or is there one)? ....Please don't just copy and paste the nomenclature here, and say... It's that. What is it, really?? LOL.
 
Renew1 said:
Does anyone know what the active ingredient is in SD Matrix (or is there one)? ....Please don't just copy and paste the nomenclature here, and say... It's that. What is it, really?? LOL.
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Believe that product has gone through like 4 life cycles / revivals where it’s somwthinf new each time. LOL!
 
Should be superdrol clone but who knows feedbacks sometimes good sometimes not good so I will try it out and make log with that cycle) )
 
A 12 week oral cycle...Just pin if you want to run a cycle that long. And what do you mean by “bridge”? Were you running a cycle previously already?
 
Where you read 12 weeks cycle 6 weeks cycle 4 weeks pct and sarms cardarine and ostarine stays for another 4 weeks probably throw in some s4 not sure about that yet )))
 
Might1 said:
Should be superdrol clone but who knows feedbacks sometimes good sometimes not good so I will try it out and make log with that cycle) )
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I could be wrong,. But I don't believe that's a Superdrol clone. I think that is just a (another) company using the SD name to try to fool some people and make a buck. In my opinion, that's a busy cycle to be throwing in unknowns. I'm glad you posted here. Get advice from some of the more experienced guys on here (and don't take the word of Advertisements and supplement shops).
 
Georgiepecker said:
Using Ostarine for PCT is not good.
You’ll never recover at those doses as it can suppress

I don’t think cardarine Supresses so maybe it’ll aid you in PCT. I’m not sure
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Some studies claim osta is always at any dose and some claim it isn't. Even I it is slightly suppressive the benefits could still outweigh the flaws, however this is speculations until I test it myself. Many have used it in pct though.

Yeah cardarine is neither aas or a sarm and won't suppress. Could very well be used throughout the cycle and pct mainly cause of cholesterol but it also increases stamina immensly.
 
Chados said:
Some studies claim osta is always at any dose and some claim it isn't. Even I it is slightly suppressive the benefits could still outweigh the flaws, however this is speculations until I test it myself. Many have used it in pct though.

Yeah cardarine is neither aas or a sarm and won't suppress. Could very well be used throughout the cycle and pct mainly cause of cholesterol but it also increases stamina immensly.
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I am inclined to believe if some studies claim that it does suppress, and show hormones were actually suppressed, then especially with my luck it’d happen to me.
 
Two big problems
1. Ostarine shouldn’t be used in pct. It would still be suppressive at 1mg. If you want to wonder why you’re not recovered at 4-6 weeks of pct, there’s your answer.
2. With trest you are going to need a real AI. Armistane has proven to be USELESS. Get your hands on some Aromasin or Adex or you’ll regret it when you start developing boobies.

Side note: Some real cycle support like CEL Cycle Assist will greatly benefit you.
 
I see a lot of talk about cardarine on here recently. Whatever happened to the whole cancer thing? Was that debunked?
 
The Express 42 said:
Two big problems
1. Ostarine shouldn’t be used in pct. It would still be suppressive at 1mg. If you want to wonder why you’re not recovered at 4-6 weeks of pct, there’s your answer.
2. With trest you are going to need a real AI. Armistane has proven to be USELESS. Get your hands on some Aromasin or Adex or you’ll regret it when you start developing boobies.

Side note: Some real cycle support like CEL Cycle Assist will greatly benefit you.
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Yep, this ^^^^
 
Also it was used two years out of the rats (average max) 3 year lifespan. it's like a would use it for 50 years at a super high amount. The cancer could have come naturally.
 
Might1 said:
Where you read 12 weeks cycle 6 weeks cycle 4 weeks pct and sarms cardarine and ostarine stays for another 4 weeks probably throw in some s4 not sure about that yet )))
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You said you’ve been running ostarine for 3 weeks and plan on running it until the end of February, folllowing another 4 weeks of supedrol; that’s about 12 weeks.
 
Guys don't be silly ostarine is not suppressive till the moment whyle you not try to make gains from it it's very sample because he have ability to hold muscles from waste while on pct use for anti catabolic I think ostarine is best for this sorry grammar )
 
Might1 said:
Guys don't be silly ostarine is not suppressive till the moment whyle you not try to make gains from it it's very sample because he have ability to hold muscles from waste while on pct use for anti catabolic I think ostarine is best for this sorry grammar )
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You’re wrong.
 
Might1 said:
Guys don't be silly ostarine is not suppressive till the moment whyle you not try to make gains from it it's very sample because he have ability to hold muscles from waste while on pct use for anti catabolic I think ostarine is best for this sorry grammar )
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3mg of ostarine was suppressive in studies...What makes you think 25mg isn’t? Go do research before you put drugs in your body.
 
It kinda amazes me how many people I see talking about using sarms during pct, though maybe it shouldn't. And I understand there's some debate over just HOW suppressive it is and at what dosages, but as far as I can tell most of these guys don't even know that it is suppressive.
 
DennisC1986 said:
It kinda amazes me how many people I see talking about using sarms during pct, though maybe it shouldn't. And I understand there's some debate over just HOW suppressive it is and at what dosages, but as far as I can tell most of these guys don't even know that it is suppressive.
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It is suppressive but it might not be suppressive within 5 weeks at 25mg that's what the other side says. Even with a little suppression it could still be beneficial during pct as long as it doesn't interrupt the recovery enough to be counterproductive
 
Chados said:
It is suppressive but it might not be suppressive within 5 weeks at 25mg that's what the other side says. Even with a little suppression it could still be beneficial during pct as long as it doesn't interrupt the recovery enough to be counterproductive
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If you’re already suppressed by AAS how is even light suppression not going to be worse ten-fold than if you weren’t already suppressed?
 
For some, the added suppression, even if minimal, may be worth it for whatever muscle saving benefits it might bring. Just for me personally, I believe my natural levels are already negatively affected from being an idiot when I was younger. So I'd rather not use anything even mildly suppressive during pct. But obviously every one is different, I can only speak to myself
 
Georgiepecker said:
If you’re already suppressed by AAS how is even light suppression not going to be worse ten-fold than if you weren’t already suppressed?
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Osta is supposed to control cortisol and that's what keeps you from not keeping your gains. This could outweigh the slight suppression. Also, is osta strong enough at a short amount of time to combat the pct to kickstart your own production?. I don't think and notice how I say (think) osta with controlled dosage will win over nolva and clomid. Let's just call all this speculations because we have two sides saying different things and we can't really know until we try it ourselves. I am going to try it during next pct.
 
You're easily one of the most knowledgeable guys on here, so I value your input. I was reading the thread where you said you were going to get bloods do e to test your theory. I'd be interested in seeing that
 
DennisC1986 said:
You're easily one of the most knowledgeable guys on here, so I value your input. I was reading the thread where you said you were going to get bloods do e to test your theory. I'd be interested in seeing that
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Thank you but I'm not sure that's true. However I am willing to listen to the other side. We go by speculations right now because something that will suppress you has never been something you want during pct. Now we have a product that supposedly is not suppressive at a certain dosage and time and that controls cortisol and prevents muscle waste. If it works it's fantastic and I have seen many people talking about it being superior so why should I say for certain that the old theory stands for every product out there and at any dosage? Because it's logical? People are still doubting the moonlanding.

I don't trust all these studies because people look at ostarine for 12 weeks at a low dosage. It's still 12 weeks, people on pct uses it for 5 and that should be where we should look at.
 
I agree, I'm definitely one for questioning the status quo, especially if there's any kind of evidence to look at. What are your thoughts on otc cortisol control products, and how they may compare to osta in that regard?
 
DennisC1986 said:
I agree, I'm definitely one for questioning the status quo, especially if there's any kind of evidence to look at. What are your thoughts on otc cortisol control products, and how they may compare to osta in that regard?
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Well there are certain foods that will control cortisol. Besides from that I think we're talking medical terms and things like ostarine. I don't think there's anything natural you can get that will control cortisol like ostarine or other meds.
 
Would I want to be able to run something suppressive during PCT, and not affect my body's recovery to "normal"?? You bet! Is that gonna happen?... Sadly no.
 
That's what I try to explain saying ostarine is not supressive while you not try to make gains because if you try to make gains in 5 weeks 50mg is minimum what you should take that's my opinion thanks
 
Renew1 said:
Would I want to be able to run something suppressive during PCT, and not affect my body's recovery to "normal"?? You bet! Is that gonna happen?... Sadly no.
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It's not that simple to say that each product is the same at any dosage. It's like saying will 5mg anavar shut you down for one day? Or will 100mg for 5 weeks shut you down?.
 
What I was saying is that I probably wouldn't run any doseage of Anavar during PCT, Because it's suppressive.
 
Renew1 said:
What I was saying is that I probably wouldn't run any doseage of Anavar during PCT, Because it's suppressive.
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‘Probably’??

Wtf is this thread? Why are people suddenly running anabolics in pct. hell it can’t even be pct anymore as your still on, rather than post, cycle.

Confusing the ****e outta me tbh
 
Actually it's not a pct it is something like bridge I never even use serms like nolva or cloned on bridge I use only when I want to take brake from all chemicals) and if compare that 25mg ostarine with 10mg dbol than it starts to make sense why ostarine 25mg is better much better than 10mg of dbol for bridge I think every body here not recover nothing on 10mg of dbol )
 
Chados said:
No I meant that taking one pill of anavar won't do anything to you , neggative or positive. Taking osta 12 weeks might supress you while 5 weeks might not.
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No I know what you were saying. I think Renew1 meant to write ostarine and not anavar.
 
He said he wouldn't take anavar during pct, which I think would be a given. I think he meant to write he wouldn't take ostarine during pct. I could be wrong though
 
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