Next Cycle

Bonestobeast

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So I am about to start taking my 2nd cycle but I’m not sure exactly when. I have finished my pct 3 weeks ago, this Friday (Oct. 20) will make 4 weeks. A friend of mine told me to wait another month, but I have read people starting their next cycle right after pct.

My last cycle was Super DMZ 2.0, on cylce was organ shield, and had pct assault.

My next cycle will be more complex as i am stacking a 2 other supplements ontop of the prohormone. I will be taking MedFit rx KING, along with massmax xt, and Growth by blackstone labs. My on cycle is Ar1macare pro, and my pct is A-XR PC.

Should i take the 3 main products simultaneously, or should i take at different times starting at different weeks? Any help is great!

Oh I am 20y/o. 5’10” 160lbs. Have 8-10% body fat. Trying to bulk to around 190-195 this winter before i cut
 
How old are you?

You definitely need to take off at leaaaast as much time on (6 week cycle+4 week pct = 10 weeks off). This is to minimize damage to your htpa and also give your organs a break. Running strong orals take a toll on your body (yes even with ogran product abc).

With a product that strong you messed up your pct. You NEED to run a SERM. This is the only way to realistically return to normal test production quickly after a cycle.

Please do some more research on what you are doing to your body, and what the consequences are before making any more decisions that will affect your long term health.
 
murman89 said:
How old are you?

You definitely need to take off at leaaaast as much time on (6 week cycle+4 week pct = 10 weeks off). This is to minimize damage to your htpa and also give your organs a break. Running strong orals take a toll on your body (yes even with ogran product abc).

With a product that strong you messed up your pct. You NEED to run a SERM. This is the only way to realistically return to normal test production quickly after a cycle.

Please do some more research on what you are doing to your body, and what the consequences are before making any more decisions that will affect your long term health.
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I have looked into serms but dont you need to be prescribed?
 
Bonestobeast said:
I have looked into serms but dont you need to be prescribed?
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Yes, they are prescription drugs. But if you're going to use products that are going through the hormonal route, you need to do your due diligence and look around for a SERM. SERMS are the only PCT you need. Nothing natural will be as good or is advised as a standalone.
 
AntM1564 said:
Yes, they are prescription drugs. But if you're going to use products that are going through the hormonal route, you need to do your due diligence and look around for a SERM. SERMS are the only PCT you need. Nothing natural will be as good or is advised as a standalone.
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In that case how do I go about getting this?
 
Bonestobeast said:
So I am about to start taking my 2nd cycle but I’m not sure exactly when. I have finished my pct 3 weeks ago, this Friday (Oct. 20) will make 4 weeks. A friend of mine told me to wait another month, but I have read people starting their next cycle right after pct.

My last cycle was Super DMZ 2.0, on cylce was organ shield, and had pct assault.

My next cycle will be more complex as i am stacking a 2 other supplements ontop of the prohormone. I will be taking MedFit rx KING, along with massmax xt, and Growth by blackstone labs. My on cycle is Ar1macare pro, and my pct is A-XR PC.

Should i take the 3 main products simultaneously, or should i take at different times starting at different weeks? Any help is great!

Oh I am 20y/o. 5’10” 160lbs. Have 8-10% body fat. Trying to bulk to around 190-195 this winter before i cut
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First off, no need for Arimistane on cycle with a steroid that doesn't turn into estrogen. It won't help and will hurt your gains.

Estrogen stimulation at ER beta is very important for muscle growth, so don't kill off your estrogen, it's not the enemy when you have sufficient androgen levels. We are supposed to have these hormones.

I'd suggest:

Rise and Swell on Cycle and Then Arimistane and Rise and Swell Post Cycle

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Organ shield is fine and a good idea on something strong like DMZ. Realize that DMZ is a Schedule III anabolic steroid and not a prohormone. It's very advanced and strong. I'd be super careful with it. Sure, you will gain lots of muscle water on this but realize that it's not a prohormone.

 
Eric Mar said:
First off, no need for Arimistane on cycle with a steroid that doesn't turn into estrogen. It won't help and will hurt your gains.

Estrogen stimulation at ER beta is very important for muscle growth, so don't kill off your estrogen, it's not the enemy when you have sufficient androgen levels. We are supposed to have these hormones.

I'd suggest:

Rise and Swell on Cycle and Then Arimistane and Rise and Swell Post Cycle


Organ shield is fine and a good idea on something strong like DMZ. Realize that DMZ is a Schedule III anabolic steroid and not a prohormone. It's very advanced and strong. I'd be super careful with it. Sure, you will gain lots of muscle water on this but realize that it's not a prohormone.

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Cool thank you for your input! So rise and swell and arimistane for post cycle and that is all? Or include a serm as well?
 
Bonestobeast said:
Cool thank you for your input! So rise and swell and arimistane for post cycle and that is all? Or include a serm as well?
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Eric will undoubtedly suggest that a serm could actually be damaging to you at your age (he’s probably right - seems very knowledgeable on this stuff).......unfortunately so could running this cycle without a serm (best outcome is that by the time your naturals have kicked back up you’ll have lost any gains anyway).

It doesn’t help his company sell rise and swell btw - personally that would raise doubts if I were you.

You know the best answer - just wait until your 25 or older, your hormones don’t need this **** at your age - just eat Big and train hard man. Unless you have some compelling reason to risk ****ing yourself up that is.......
 
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