Newbie looking for Epi cycle advice

[raquen]

So I will be getting back in body building after a very long break and I am looking for advice on my First PH cycle. I did a 4 week test run 12 years ago of Nortesten and I remember the strength gains being pretty amazing. I am hoping for something similar.

I am considering EP15TANE Perfect Cycle by Olympus Labs.

So as it says the pack contains:
-EP15TANE - Epistane
-AR1MACARE PRO - ON cycle therapy (what else should I take?)
-SUP3R PCT (what else should I take?)
So What About AI, SERM and Pre-work out?

I am also considering:
glucosamine
milk thistle
some kind of Nitric Oxide supplement for pre-work out
Whey protein
Calcium gel caps


Does anyone have any recommendations?

I am guessing it looks something like this:

On Cycle: EP15TANE - Epistane 6 Weeks
30/30/30/40/40/40 with first week 10/20/30
On Cycle Support:
-AR1MACARE PRO
-glucosamine
-milk thistle
-Taurine
AI: ?
SERM:?
PCT: SUP3R PCT
Pre-work out: Nitric Oxide

Any help here?

thanks

 

[rnoorani]

ep15stane pills are 15mgs a piece. so it will be hard to do 40mgs.

 

[raquen]

Gotcha, any other help? AI?

 

[Driven2lift]

SERM you will need to source yourself, I usually recommend clomid/Torem

Preworkout keep low stim, nonstim to be safest and monitor BP

AI to have on hand:
http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/ironflex-supplements-formabolic.html
Transdermal form is the best OTC option

 

[Tagger]

ep15stane pills are 15mgs a piece. so it will be hard to do 40mgs.

Yah, he could do 45 and be fine.

 

[Tagger]

SERM you will need to source yourself, I usually recommend clomid/Torem

Preworkout keep low stim, nonstim to be safest and monitor BP

AI to have on hand:
http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/ironflex-supplements-formabolic.html
Transdermal form is the best OTC option

Also OP, either of these SERMS would work, I just stuck with Nolva. Everyone is different.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
AR1MACARE PRO 4 caps/day

PCT:
Nolva at 20/20/10/10 or Clomid at 50/50/25/25
SUP3R PCT 4/4/3/3/2/1

+ taurine and fish oil

Simple as that.

 

[rnoorani]

EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45 AR1MACARE PRO 4 caps/day PCT: Nolva at 20/20/10/10 or Clomid at 50/50/25/25 SUP3R PCT 4/4/3/3/2/1 + taurine and fish oil Simple as that.

Surprised you haven't gotten tired of posting this guidance, you must be doing it at least 10 times a day. Look into gettig an auto-reply for any thread with the words "first", "time", "newb*" or "epi" in it.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Surprised you haven't gotten tired of posting this guidance, you must be doing it at least 10 times a day. Look into gettig an auto-reply for any thread with the words "first", "time", "newb*" or "epi" in it.

Hahah, it doesn't take too much time!

 

[Tagger]

EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
AR1MACARE PRO 4 caps/day

PCT:
Nolva at 20/20/10/10 or Clomid at 50/50/25/25
SUP3R PCT 4/4/3/3/2/1

+ taurine and fish oil

Simple as that.

Boom!! Too ****ing easy!

 

[raquen]

Hey thanks for the info.

2 questions:
Can I order Nolva online or is that something I have yo go through a doc for ?

Second, on cycle do I take epistane everyday or just on workout days ?

 

[Driven2lift]

Hey thanks for the info. 2 questions: Can I order Nolva online or is that something I have yo go through a doc for ? Second, on cycle do I take epistane everyday or just on workout days ?

Ordered online but look into your source first

Epi is dosed daily, and spread doses through the day

 

[raquen]

Thanks again! Now what about test boosters after pct (or us that included?)

Any recommendations?

 

[Tagger]

Thanks again! Now what about test boosters after pct (or us that included?)

Any recommendations?

I'm taking Cannibal Alpha and it's working great so far. Follow the log in my signature if you want some more information.

 

[jacksonian]

EP15TANE 30/45/45/45/45/45
AR1MACARE PRO 4 caps/day

PCT:
Nolva at 20/20/10/10 or Clomid at 50/50/25/25
SUP3R PCT 4/4/3/3/2/1

+ taurine and fish oil

Simple as that.

2 quick questions:

1) do you recommend tapering the Epi at all those last few days? I saw another company recommending that on their Epi product. Is it ok to go from 45mg to zero?

2) Since Epistane is so anti-estrogenic, is the Arimistane in Ar1macare Pro not overkill? Obviously need all the other cycle support elements in it, but is the AI necessary?

thanks for any help, just about to order everything up

 

[Tagger]

1. You don't have to taper it.
2. I'd run it just in case.

 

[jacksonian]

1. You don't have to taper it.
2. I'd run it just in case.

Awesome, thanks. What do you guys think of taking Ostar1ne with the PCT after the Epi cycle?

 

[Tagger]

Awesome, thanks. What do you guys think of taking Ostar1ne with the PCT after the Epi cycle?

I do it. And I basically kept all of my mass.

 

[jacksonian]

I do it. And I basically kept all of my mass.

Much appreciated. Will get it all ordered up. Can't wait to start.

 

[jacksonian]

Sorry, one last question. If I run the Ostar1ne with my PCT (Sup3rPCT and Nolva as above), do I need to run anything more after I finish the Osta?

 

[Tagger]

Sorry, one last question. If I run the Ostar1ne with my PCT (Sup3rPCT and Nolva as above), do I need to run anything more after I finish the Osta?

Some people run a test booster after, but I've heard of people going cold turkey, and they are fine.

 

[jacksonian]

Some people run a test booster after, but I've heard of people going cold turkey, and they are fine.

Ok, Thanks again!