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let the FLAMING begin lol iam open to any suggestions ive never reached out b4 . Ran may designers and ph never had any issues but id really like some input . Thanks
 
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You need a SERM bro!

Also you will probably get more input if you post in the Anabolics section
 
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Yah definitely get a real serm.
 
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I posted in anabolics but i wanna know if clomid is better than nolvadex either way imma taper off and wait a month to reload
 
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For PCT you need a serm (Clomid, Torem, Nolva), I'd also recommend a test booster when you come off.
 
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When to start the serm i got 30 days left been on for 30 gained 12 lbs and bench press up to 250 from 175
 
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Serm, Serm, Serm that is all i have to say haha but if you have any questions man DM me i am willing to help any way i can
 
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Serm, Serm, Serm that is all i have to say haha but if you have any questions man DM me i am willing to help any way i can
What is confusing me is how long after i end my cycle should i start the serm ? I didn't want to start it to early or to late . Also iam getting mixed signals frm people about nolva and clomid . If i dont get shutdown do i even need a serm ?
 
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What is confusing me is how long after i end my cycle should i start the serm ? I didn't want to start it to early or to late . Also iam getting mixed signals frm people about nolva and clomid . If i dont get shutdown do i even need a serm ?
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How much do you weigh?

350 pro is pretty high
 
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You definitely need a serm. PM me and after my final about 1:30 Central I will tell you where to get one. Shipping is $25, but quality is unmatched.

Also, 250g of taurine seems really high...

A-HD isn't a PCT at all... Its crap. It will not work. Alpha 20 is Methyl 1-Alpha.. Which converts to M1T. Which means its strong... GET A SERM.
 
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What is confusing me is how long after i end my cycle should i start the serm ? I didn't want to start it to early or to late . Also iam getting mixed signals frm people about nolva and clomid . If i dont get shutdown do i even need a serm ?
Since no one else answered you... Start your serm as soon as the cycle ends. No reason to wait with these compounds as there's no ester to clear like IM.

Unless you have bloods to prove it, you most likely are suppressed and will want a serm. Obviously it can be possible to recover without one but in the time it takes to recover naturally your body will have to attempt to keep new, immature muscle with no hormones aka it's not going to happen. You'll lose everything you built, possibly even more as you'll be below normal hormone levels, and you'll feel like ass.
 
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That's exactly wat i was thinking . I been doin ds ph for about 7 yrs never had a serm and always felt like **** and lost it all .i went from 26 inch biceps to 17 in 5 weeks wat a **** up . Now iam at 18 and goin for 26 again .
 
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That's exactly wat i was thinking . I been doin ds ph for about 7 yrs never had a serm and always felt like **** and lost it all .i went from 26 inch biceps to 17 in 5 weeks wat a **** up . Now iam at 18 and goin for 26 again .
Running SERM after your cycle is the best thing you can do for your body. Glad to see you're covering all the bases this time.
 
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I decided to join this site cuz i noticed how super helpful everyone is. Its amazing how you guys can save us new guys from death or worse . Everyone keeps saying armidex but since the a1m doesn't aromatize i dont think ill need it . And nolva for pct .the hi dose of taurine does help the back pumps . Ill b waking thru walmart like iam on a cloud
 

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So you take all of that and can't even bench press your own body weight? Maybe when you get your 26 inch biceps back you will gain some strength. Good Luck.
 
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So you take all of that and can't even bench press your own body weight? Maybe when you get your 26 inch biceps back you will gain some strength. Good Luck.
well looky here my first as s hole . Hello ... i was oN bed rest from an accident this is my first 8 week cycle in 2 years. Thanks for the d.o.u.c.h.ebaggery
 
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Today ill add a pic of me from back then. Im working hard to get it back like that
 

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well looky here my first as s hole . Hello ... i was oN bed rest from an accident this is my first 8 week cycle in 2 years. Thanks for the d.o.u.c.h.ebaggery
I'm glad you have now have an as s hole, now you have no excuse for being full of shi t.
 
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I'm glad you have now have an as s hole, now you have no excuse for being full of shi t.
Which brings me to rule number 6 dont listen to the nay sayers hahahah
 
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Check my pics i just added it
i think you're measurements are a bit off there man ha... 26" I highly doubt. Doesn't matter tho. Bigger is better anyways

That said, going from 18 to 26 (or even 23 for that matter) on ANY cycle that's not years long is either:
a) going to be mostly water and glycogen (from say a wet ccompound like dbol) and WILL go away (at least some of it) when you cycle off and your body can no longer hold supraphysiological levels of glycogen
or b) a ton of fat and not actually muscle

Building real lean muscle takes time and adding more than an inch to a tiny muscle like a bicep will take tons of it. You've gotta be realistic with your on and off cycle expectations.
 
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Your exactly right it may have been water and fat but it was nice to look so huge. My goals are size bamn .
 
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Your exactly right it may have been water and fat but it was nice to look so huge. My goals are size bamn .
If all you want is size and power then just eat everything you can possibly stomach.... and then eat some more... and then make a shake... and then another ha
 
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True ... eat big to get big ... i like to do alot of red meat . Seafood Too. I dont believe in overtraining either . Eat b4 the work out and after sleep a solid 10hrs then eat again .i got a killer intra workout mix ill pm ya if ya want it.
 
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True ... eat big to get big ... i like to do alot of red meat . Seafood Too. I dont believe in overtraining either . Eat b4 the work out and after sleep a solid 10hrs then eat again .i got a killer intra workout mix ill pm ya if ya want it.
How high are your carbs? Protein is great but you really need to up the carbs to ensure you're using the protein and not just burning most of it up.
 
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My carba are in the 250g to 400g a day maybe to high . Either way i consume 350 to 450 g protein a day . Wat do u recommend for carb sources?
 
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My carba are in the 250g to 400g a day maybe to high . Either way i consume 350 to 450 g protein a day . Wat do u recommend for carb sources?
Damn, thats a ton of protein. Probably unnecessary, but it wont hurt. If you're looking for additional gains tho, add more carbs. I know theres guys on here eating 600g+ just to get moderate gains. If you truly want to spare as much protein as possible, pound all the carbs you can stomach. the more the better. As for sources, if you want "cleaner" stick to potatoes (sweet, white, whatever you like), oats, grits/cream of wheat/rice, whole grain breads and cereals, bran, etc. The typical bro-foods. If you're just in it for the gains tho, dont be afraid to pound some carbs iifym style and add in a couple scoops of ice cream or pop tarts ha. On a massive bulk, I would just do whatever you have to to meet your calorie goal. Eat clean when you can, eat dirty when you must, but at the end of the day - just EAT
 
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Damn, thats a ton of protein. Probably unnecessary, but it wont hurt. If you're looking for additional gains tho, add more carbs. I know theres guys on here eating 600g+ just to get moderate gains. If you truly want to spare as much protein as possible, pound all the carbs you can stomach. the more the better. As for sources, if you want "cleaner" stick to potatoes (sweet, white, whatever you like), oats, grits/cream of wheat/rice, whole grain breads and cereals, bran, etc. The typical bro-foods. If you're just in it for the gains tho, dont be afraid to pound some carbs iifym style and add in a couple scoops of ice cream or pop tarts ha. On a massive bulk, I would just do whatever you have to to meet your calorie goal. Eat clean when you can, eat dirty when you must, but at the end of the day - just EAT
Hell yeah .... i do 25 to 50 g protein every 3 hours some times more/less. A wise guy i met once told me match your carbs to your protein intake sleep 4 hrs twice a day. iam about to b laid off at work thank god i saved some bucks on the side . Whats your take on protein types hydro whey/ whey isolates ? I got pro complex and ON both really well.
 
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Hell yeah .... i do 25 to 50 g protein every 3 hours some times more/less. A wise guy i met once told me match your carbs to your protein intake sleep 4 hrs twice a day. iam about to b laid off at work thank god i saved some bucks on the side . Whats your take on protein types hydro whey/ whey isolates ? I got pro complex and ON both really well.
I would be making sure you get at least (probably more like 1.5-2:1) 1:1 c: p for every meal too as the carbs will ensure the protein is used for muscle building. and ensure that you're getting plenty of fats too to support your hormones and other normal functions.

as far as protein types, if you're eating that often and that much throughout the day it doesn't even matter.... you're never going to need fast or slow or whatever since your body will probably never even fully digest the meal before (let alone use all of the nutrients) before the next meal. Go cheap, and stick with real food as much as you can. It has so much more in the way of nutrients that just dont exist in processed powders.
 
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Boneless skinless thighs and breast and lean meat 93 7 beef . I dont really do pork at all . I like the natural salmon and catfish no grain fed bullshizer lmao iam about to do a huge upper body workout after my shower ill post the moves i chose and sets with weights be back soon .
 
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Boneless skinless thighs and breast and lean meat 93 7 beef . I dont really do pork at all . I like the natural salmon and catfish no grain fed bullshizer lmao iam about to do a huge upper body workout after my shower ill post the moves i chose and sets with weights be back soon .
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Single dumbell press 50 lbs 10 reps 3 sets
Single dumbell curl 50 lbs 10 reps 4 sets overhead tri ext 50lbs 12 reps 4 sets
Lat rows 50lbs 15 reps 3 sets
Hammer curls 50lbs 20 reps 3 sets
All done with single 50lbs dumbell .
3 scoops whey right after workout.
Chest workout in 6 hrs then big meal b4 bed .
 
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Ok here goes
Single dumbell press 50 lbs 10 reps 3 sets
Single dumbell curl 50 lbs 10 reps 4 sets overhead tri ext 50lbs 12 reps 4 sets
Lat rows 50lbs 15 reps 3 sets
Hammer curls 50lbs 20 reps 3 sets
All done with single 50lbs dumbell .
3 scoops whey right after workout.
Chest workout in 6 hrs then big meal b4 bed .
where the carbs man?!
 
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51 g carbs 39 grams protein 1 hr b4 workout ... post workout 72grams protein 24 g carbs ... good or not ?
 
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51 g carbs 39 grams protein 1 hr b4 workout ... post workout 72grams protein 24 g carbs ... good or not ?
i would be crushing 100g+ post. PWO is the time when your body is MOST adapted to shuttle those carbs directly to muscles to refill glycogen. If I had one meal to put an entire days worth of carbs in it would be PWO without question. least chance of fat gain, maximize muscle recovery
 
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I used to do 1.5 cups brown rice and a half pound chicken breast but i kept getting acid reflux bad so i chopped up pwo meal into 2 diff meals instead of one huge one a shake then the rice and chicken 3 hrs later . Absolutely killed the workout today no questions . No back pumps no lethargy . But onee odd thing ive noticed is upon bumping my a1m up to 3 20mgs a day im getting sweaty for no reason and slight agitation at nothing at all is that normal ? Back when mmv2 was out i had same symptoms wondering if they are on the same structure or similar chems.
 
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I would add some carbs to your shake. Like a ton ha. No reason to skip them. Eating 3hrs is enough time to digest them and that gap is not ideal since you'll lose the extra insulin sensitivity after that big shake. That next meal will not have the same effect for the carbs as it would if you ate those with the shake.

Add some oats or something easy to your shake if you want
 
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I would add some carbs to your shake. Like a ton ha. No reason to skip them. Eating 3hrs is enough time to digest them and that gap is not ideal since you'll lose the extra insulin sensitivity after that big shake. That next meal will not have the same effect for the carbs as it would if you ate those with the shake.

Add some oats or something easy to your shake if you want
Back b4 my accident i had mixed these quaker oats packs in a bowl and flax seed and put water then nuked it for 45 sec . Not enough to fully cook it just a nice warm mush i found that to help prwo and powo i never added oats to the shake but ill give it a shot sounds like a win win . Any certain brands or cut ?
 
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Back b4 my accident i had mixed these quaker oats packs in a bowl and flax seed and put water then nuked it for 45 sec . Not enough to fully cook it just a nice warm mush i found that to help prwo and powo i never added oats to the shake but ill give it a shot sounds like a win win . Any certain brands or cut ?
Not steel cut ha. They're like rock hard. Just normal cheap instant oats as much as you can stomach. If you're doing it at home, just make a nice big bowl of them and throw the powder in that
 
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Not steel cut ha. They're like rock hard. Just normal cheap instant oats as much as you can stomach. If you're doing it at home, just make a nice big bowl of them and throw the powder in that
U ever try making ya own bars out of pro powder and oats ? Looks fun lol
 
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U ever try making ya own bars out of pro powder and oats ? Looks fun lol
Nope. And since I'm cutting pretty hard right now that's totally out for me ha. Too many cals and not enough volume for my ****tyy metabolism
 
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For cutting you gotta try some bison meat and lots of water wats your cardio lookin like ?how much weight you tryna cut ?
 
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For cutting you gotta try some bison meat and lots of water wats your cardio lookin like ?how much weight you tryna cut ?
I don't have a number in mind as I've added a lot of muscle over the last year. Just mirror judgement.

Bison is retardedly expensive for me tho or I would be all over that. I'm keeping cardio to a min right now and working mostly with diet tweaks. After things stall and this osta pct is done I'll start adding cardio and such
 
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How long have you been doing this **** ?you definitely should look into training or teaching. I been throwing cycles together for 10 years . Tbh i never really gave a faulk wat those chems did to me as long as they worked . I never had any sides and ive used some of the dirtiest compounds out there .
 
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How long have you been doing this **** ?you definitely should look into training or teaching. I been throwing cycles together for 10 years . Tbh i never really gave a faulk wat those chems did to me as long as they worked . I never had any sides and ive used some of the dirtiest compounds out there .
Haha really got into the details about 4yrs ago. First legit diet I tried and stuck to and first time I saw my abs I was hooked. It's been a lot of reading and self experimentation since then ha.

It's amazing how some people can do what you did and just get lucky while others can plan for years and end up with gyno and deca dik their first cycle ha.
 
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I added a pic on my profile cant figure out how to get it on my main pic tho
Somewhere in your settings is a place for changing your avi. I'm on mobile now so I can't see
 
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Its funny my dad was on heavy **** in the 70s and 80s never any sides . Except he whooped a few cops up that tried to bag him ... that would have been a utube for laughs .. extreme aggressive from my deca and test ethanate 1000 eow for 10 weeks think my second via was cut with somethin
 

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