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nyemt718

nyemt718

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Ok so here's the deal I'm 25 years old 210 and 5'8. Used to be 260 pounds but now i just have this gut and my chest to take care of. I was told to take havoc, but I'm not looking to put on weight I wanna lean out, anyone have suggestions for me? It would be greatly appreciated... Thanks!
 
nyemt718 said:
Ok so here's the deal I'm 25 years old 210 and 5'8. Used to be 260 pounds but now i just have this gut and my chest to take care of. I was told to take havoc, but I'm not looking to put on weight I wanna lean out, anyone have suggestions for me? It would be greatly appreciated... Thanks!
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Dermacrine, alphamine, dcp
 
nyemt718 said:
Ok so here's the deal I'm 25 years old 210 and 5'8. Used to be 260 pounds but now i just have this gut and my chest to take care of. I was told to take havoc, but I'm not looking to put on weight I wanna lean out, anyone have suggestions for me? It would be greatly appreciated... Thanks!
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Havoc is a prohormone so you don't want to start with that. Do you have any supplement experience?
 
nyemt718 said:
Ok so here's the deal I'm 25 years old 210 and 5'8. Used to be 260 pounds but now i just have this gut and my chest to take care of. I was told to take havoc, but I'm not looking to put on weight I wanna lean out, anyone have suggestions for me? It would be greatly appreciated... Thanks!
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Bf%? training history?
 
took alphamine for 2 days I was ****ting liquid, gotta pass on that right now I am taking DCP 2.0 Vanillean and Isa-Test, lost a few pounds
 
nyemt718 said:
took alphamine for 2 days I was ****ting liquid, gotta pass on that right now I am taking DCP 2.0 Vanillean and Isa-Test, lost a few pounds
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DCP/Vanillean is a great stack for leaning out and I can't imagine you really need too much more to have noticeable physique changes if your diet is good.
 
jimbuick said:
DCP/Vanillean is a great stack for leaning out and I can't imagine you really need too much more to have noticeable physique changes if your diet is good.
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It's really good, but I feel like I should have more lean muscle thats why I'm asking about havoc.
 
jimbuick said:
Your best bet would be to lower your bf first and then focus on building the muscle after IMO.
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you have a good point there I"m on my 2nd cycle of dcp/vanillean its great but my diet hasnt been I'm going to wait a month start it again.
 
What is your diet like?
What is your training like?
What is your cardio like?

Supplements wont do anything if your diet is not in check or accurate.

Post up your macros/diet first and foremost with your training.
 
The Solution said:
What is your diet like? What is your training like? What is your cardio like? Supplements wont do anything if your diet is not in check or accurate. Post up your macros/diet first and foremost with your training.
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Look about 5 posts back. He posted about the questions you asked already.
 
The Solution said:
What is your diet like?
What is your training like?
What is your cardio like?

Supplements wont do anything if your diet is not in check or accurate.

Post up your macros/diet first and foremost with your training.
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I do high intensity cardio every day before I lift for 25 mins, my diet is so so. I train a different body part every day and play hockey once per week for 2 hours.
 
kbayne said:
Look about 5 posts back. He posted about the questions you asked already.
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Ive been going to the gym for 3 years, lifting, cardio 5 days a week and I play hockey one day a week

That does not tell me much about his routine (training wise)
Doing cardio 5x a week does not really implement HIIT/LISS etc...
This says 0 about his diet.
 
Agreed with Jim that you should focus on losing more body fat rather than worry about building lean muscle as of now.

Seems like you have the training and cardio part down and hopefully the diet.
 
kbayne said:
Agreed with Jim that you should focus on losing more body fat rather than worry about building lean muscle as of now.

Seems like you have the training and cardio part down and hopefully the diet.
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My diet is kinda sucky because I'm on an ambulance, I need to start making my own meals and bringing them to work.
 
nyemt718 said:
I do high intensity cardio every day before I lift for 25 mins, my diet is so so. I train a different body part every day and play hockey once per week for 2 hours.
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There is your problem your diet is (So-So)

Why do you feel the need to do HIIT so often? do you think that doing it PRIOR to your workout will negate some of your energy and optimal performance from lifting? it may be a reason why your workouts may start to suffer/lack if you want to continue to cut weight.

What does an outline of your workout look like?

How many calories are your consuming? Break down of your macros?

I suggest you sign up to MyFitnessPal and track your calories and macros.


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These should help you, Your diet is the #1 reason for your fatloss, adding in supplements when your caloric intake does not suit your goal wont merit much results.
 
nyemt718 said:
My diet is kinda sucky because I'm on an ambulance, I need to start making my own meals and bringing them to work.
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I understand what you mean. Prepping meals can be difficult and not be very fun, but it is well worth it and will lead to greater results.

Many people like to do IF (intermittent fasting) type diets (which for your situation and lifestyle, may help). I do not like this type of diet but some do seem to enjoy it.

Carb cycling is another diet you could try.
 
kbayne said:
I understand what you mean. Prepping meals can be difficult and not be very fun, but it is well worth it and will lead to greater results.

Many people like to do IF (intermittent fasting) type diets (which for your situation and lifestyle, may help). I do not like this type of diet but some do seem to enjoy it.

Carb cycling is another diet you could try.
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IF actually sounds really good, but don't I have to worry about losing muscle if I dont eat?
 
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nyemt718 said:
IF actually sounds really good, but don't I have to worry about losing muscle if I dont eat?
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Your body isn't going to go catabolic in a 24 hour period. BCAAs are usually ingested when following the IF style.
 
kbayne said:
Your body isn't going to go catabolic in a 24 hour period. BCAAs are usually ingested when following the IF style.
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For Fasted Training.

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I use BCAA pre-workout whenever I train fasted. You can read more on why here and here.
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nyemt718 said:
well I guess i have work to do
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this is the reality...
turning to a steroid for help to mask your deficiencies is not a fix, and will only be a waste

I wouldn't get caught up in the whole IF deal..simply learn to make better dietary choices
it is really not hard to pack proper nutrition and keep with you in a cooler....no need to think you have to implement things such as IF, which is really quite silly imo

if you want to try it, well go for it, but it is not a prerequisite to accomplish what you want to

educate yourself further on nutrition, and realize that mastering this aspect will give you results you desire, and more

welcome to the forum
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
this is the reality...
turning to a steroid for help to mask your deficiencies is not a fix, and will only be a waste

I wouldn't get caught up in the whole IF deal..simply learn to make better dietary choices
it is really not hard to pack proper nutrition and keep with you in a cooler....no need to think you have to implement things such as IF, which is really quite silly imo

if you want to try it, well go for it, but it is not a prerequisite to accomplish what you want to

educate yourself further on nutrition, and realize that mastering this aspect will give you results you desire, and more

welcome to the forum
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thanks man.
 
nyemt718 said:
thanks man.
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You a medic or basic? I worked on the ambulance for about 5 years before eventually joining the military and getting my job at my fire station. What's the point in my ego stroking? The fact that I've been there. I don't know what your EMS lounges are like out there but a lot of it comes down to food choices man. I worked in Colorado before relocating to AZ. In the EMS lounges are ****ty choices and decent choices.

Like these guys are saying download a calorie tracker and start entering what you're eating. Not only will this give you a little insight into what you're eating but it will also hold you accountable.

Preparing ahead of time and making good choices is harder than grabbing the ****ty food and getting back out there for sure but you know better. Turn that **** around or you'll end up like all the people we transport and have taken care of for years. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up man. Good luck
 
Spaniard said:
You a medic or basic? I worked on the ambulance for about 5 years before eventually joining the military and getting my job at my fire station. What's the point in my ego stroking? The fact that I've been there. I don't know what your EMS lounges are like out there but a lot of it comes down to food choices man. I worked in Colorado before relocating to AZ. In the EMS lounges are ****ty choices and decent choices.

Like these guys are saying download a calorie tracker and start entering what you're eating. Not only will this give you a little insight into what you're eating but it will also hold you accountable.

Preparing ahead of time and making good choices is harder than grabbing the ****ty food and getting back out there for sure but you know better. Turn that **** around or you'll end up like all the people we transport and have taken care of for years. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up man. Good luck
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EMT-B, we dont have lounges we have a little room in the hospitals haha we are to busy to lounge brother we do 1.2 million jobs a year! Starting tomorrow its
diet time need to lose 20 pounds!
 
nyemt718 said:
EMT-B, we dont have lounges we have a little room in the hospitals haha we are to busy to lounge brother we do 1.2 million jobs a year! Starting tomorrow its
diet time need to lose 20 pounds!
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Most of ours are little rooms as well lol they just call them lounges ;)

Good luck man!
 
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