New smut log😮

[Dustin07]

food looks awesome dude

(last night I fell asleep as soon as I ate my post workout meal)

Did a 30min one on one boxing season yesterday and it was way more then I could handle, I was basically shot after that. It took me about a half hour to not feel like puking any more and I did 15 min on the elliptical in a attempt to get going again but I wrapped it up. That's probably why I crashed out after I ate

thats a great feeling though. its easy to get mentally exhausted before you are able to physically exhaust yourself like that, IMO I always feel so much healthier when I crash because of physical exhaustion. and probably sleep 10x better too.

 

[Smont]

food looks awesome dude





thats a great feeling though. its easy to get mentally exhausted before you are able to physically exhaust yourself like that, IMO I always feel so much healthier when I crash because of physical exhaustion. and probably sleep 10x better too.

I passed right out after I ate, I don't think the TV ever made it on last night

 

[gphagan1]

I was under the impression Amino asylum closed down quite a while ago

Yeah, they are Amino-Tech now.

 

[Smont]

Yeah, they are Amino-Tech now.

 

[Smont]

@Hyde and anyone else who may have a answer here. Have any of you ever had blood work done on trestolone only or trestolone + a trt dose of test? I personally have not, I'm actually not sure if I ever had bloods done with trestolone in the mix. I have spoken with someone who basically made it sound like his blood work on trest 50mg/week looks roughly the same on health markers as his trt. But this is literally nothing more than one person's word. They didn't have any blood work to show me either. Not that one single blood work would matter but it's better than nothing. Im dropping these orals the last day of vacation, September 26th. And I have blood work October 29th. 30 days is usually enough for the majority of my health markers to rebound with my recovery supplement arsenal lol. But will 50mg trest on top of TRT put the brakes on that? What about 100 trest and zero testosterone, or a tiny amount of test just so I'm not on zero testosterone.

Genuinely curious. My health markers late October need to look decent, even if I have to do a little something to skew them. I'm not really concerned with my health at the moment as much as I'm concerned with having some good blood work to show a doctor and pass a physical.

I'm really just concerned how much TREST might throw a monkey wrench in the equation.

Either way, I will start trestolone the day I leave for vacation. Im only gone 3.5 days so I can't imagine I'll have any estrogen catastrophes that quick and I'm hoping I might get a little vacation boost in sex drive from it

 

[Hyde]

No, I just went back and my last bloods were on 4/16.

I think I started the microdose of my Trest Ace (1-2mg/day) added to my 140mg cruise test right after that, then hurt my back about 4 weeks later so I dropped it out in exchange for like 60 deca for a couple weeks. Then I officially moving into a 12-week blast for the meet August 30th.

The one guy I actually found who truly posted bloods on Reddit used 5mg/day and had good bloods. He said cholesterol did not take a hit for him and he finally got his blood thickness down, when even modest true TRT previously would have his blood getting uncontrollably thick.

But I wasn’t able to get bloods to see for myself what lipids did.

I got a lot out of a microdose. 15mg added to my 140 test c/wk was too much estrogen even with daily shots so I dropped back to 10 the last week. I was getting obviously stronger weekly that month.

 

[Rockslide]

@Hyde What is the best way to manage estrogen in someone with preexisting gyno if they wanted to use higher doses of trest besides blasting a lot of mast ?

I’m assuming Exemstane + Ralox + caber + Dim ? Pretty much will have to have the Ralox I assume since the Exemstane won’t break down the methyl-estrogen it makes and while Dim may help some with it , it isn’t magic ?

 

[Hyde]

@Hyde What is the best way to manage estrogen in someone with preexisting gyno if they wanted to use higher doses of trest besides blasting a lot of mast ?

I’m assuming Exemstane + Ralox + caber + Dim ? Pretty much will have to have the Ralox I assume since the Exemstane won’t break down the methyl-estrogen it makes and while Dim may help some with it , it isn’t magic ?

Yes, but large doses of P5P or Mucuna Pruriens/L-Dopa will be enough for me for prolactin if it’s just Trest and estrogen is being managed. Caber is something I need for Tren, Dienelone and Nandrolone as I’m pretty sensitive to them, more than most people. So if I can do Trest with just P5P, you probably can too.

Ralox is easily the best single defense, 30-60mg/day in your stack probably. This is a safer & better option than Tamoxifen, but that would also work for the SERM slot. Or Mast in higher dose like you said.

For AI, I have used Primo to good effect instead of Exem if you have an AAS source & wanted more total milligrams, and quite possibly EQ could too if you respond that way to it. But Exem or Anastrazole are going to be your primary estrogen management otherwise. If up to 25mg Exem daily won’t cut it, Anastrazole (Arimidex) daily will.

DIM should definitely be in the stack; 200mg daily will definitely clear methyl estro faster than without so you will end up being able to use less SERM and AI.

Ralox+Exem or Anastrazole+P5P or L-Dopa+DIM should work for most.

 

[Smont]

The pain in my left shoulder has been pretty bad lately. Muscle and joint pain but it comes and goes it's very odd. Both of my shoulders have been sore for a while but for the most part they've been manageable and lately the left one just flares up all the time. Despite not doing much to aggravate it. I'm behind on my cardio and my gym sessions just because of my massive workload balancing 3.5 jobs right now lol. I'm currently painting 5-6 days a week , 2 nights a week I train ppl at my gym and 3 nights a week I'm delivering food for my buddies restaurant because he lost 2 drivers and a cook, so my brother is helping cook and I'm helping run deliveries.

Monday 8-4 cardio and high rep push
Tuesday 8-4, 530-830 box jumps, pull + hams and conditioning work (sometimes I'll go for a 30-minute walk after this and sip on a shake)
Wednesday 8am-2pm, 3pm to 930pm no training
Thursday - same as Tuesday with push and conditioning work, 30min walk while I sip my shake
Friday 8-4 cardio (missed my cardio this week on Friday)
Saturday I hope at the gym in the morning with the Parkinson's people or I'll go do some extra painting if I'm behind on something, I'll get a random workout in this time block and do some cardio at the end. 5-9 I deliver food
Sunday morning run (it's a torrential downpour today so that got canceled) 3-930 I'm delivering food again.

As you can see my schedule is a bit full lol. But I need to get more cardio in. Being on trt with some orals is very disappointing in comparison to running normal cycles. With that being said, I'm getting some cosmetic benifits for sure. But the look is very different. I'm not as round or big (and I know I'm not that big in the first place but I feel the look is smaller and more compact. Abs sre not popping at all unless it's first thing in the morning.

I look fine, but I don't look great. I think I might just need to drop a quick 10 lb and not be concerned about looking big and just hope when I pop a bunch of the ball right before I go it'll do the trick.

The more I type the more I feel like this is pure vanity lol. I know I'm not really gaining much if any muscle tissue right now and I'm using a bunch of orals to create a look like I am.

 

[Smont]

I will NEVER run the following, but can you imagine what trest + dbol would be like for controlling estrogen. 350 mg of each per week. What a set of titties one might grow.