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New PH user - first cycle

imchurki

New member
Age: 33
Weight: 194lbs
Height: 5'10
Experience: 19 years (started in high school)
Goal: increase LBM while hopefully losing some bodyfat.

I want to first thank PRIMEVALVP for this opportunity. I currently have two bottles of the 1-andro max. I have been reading on PHs for the past several months and I have decided to try out 1-andro since it is a mild PH. I have tried Osta Shred and did get good results, but did have my testosterone levels suppressed. I'm currently using Post Cycle 3x and DAA by vital labs and I feel as my t-levels are going back to normal as I am not feeling lethargic as before (won't know for sure until I take another blood test after the pct). Anyhow here is my plan of attack for 4 weeks:

Supplements:
- 1-Andro
- fish oil
- multivitamin
- N-large3 as a post workout drink

PCT
- Sup3r PCT
- DAA
- anafuse

I plan on running the 1-andro by taking one cap twice daily (130mg total). I know that 300mg is the ideal dosage as a minimum but I want to try out the effects of the product based off the recommended dosage.

- what do you think of this plan?
- am I missing anything?
- I know that a SERM is always suggested but with the low dosage, do you think it's still necessary?
- I read that 1-andro is best for cutting. Is this correct? My goal is to increase lean muscle mass while decreasing some body fat.
- can I still take a pre-workout or is the 1-andro going to affect my blood pressure so much where I shouldn't?
- I read that I should wait 4 weeks after my PCT to start to let my body recuperate. Is this correct?
- i have ArA and ABE on hand. I was thinking of running this first as an option and then bridge to 1-andro? Good or bad idea?

Feedback and comments are appreciated. Once I do start, I plan on logging my progress. Thank you.
 
4 weeks is too short, bump it to 8 weeks for optimal results. You can dose higher as well, 1 dhea is a very mild, non methylated compound. You might want to think about a test base because 1 dhea is known for lethargy. A serm is always reccomended for the fastest recovery possible. Faster recovery means more gains kept. Time on + pct = time off. Follow this rule for all hormonal products. Save the Abe and ara for pct when you will really need it
 
1- andro is great all around for recomping and also lean bulking. Diet and training will be the key to success.

I would start with 300mg per day for at least 2 week, then maybe bump up to 400mg per day in week 3.

I ran 1-andro for 8 weeks with no issues and bumped it up to 440mg by the end (my caps were 110mg each)

As Yatess84 said, Lethargy issues will arise, as well as libido issues from 1-andro. you many want to stack
4-andro or epi andro with it starting in the beginning of week 3 to combat it.

You should still be able to take a pwo, but i would monitor your BP for the 1st few weeks to see how your
body is reacting to the PH's. I usually hit the local pharmacy every couple days to see how my BP is doing.
As long as I'm below 140/90 i will still use my pwo's.. Anything over 140/90 and you are in the high blood
pressure zone.

In regards to your PCT, i have 2 recommendations for you....

1. drop the DAA, unless you already bought it. Recent studies have shown at 3g per day it did nothing & at 6g it lowered Test.

2. if you dont plan to run an RC or Pharma SERM, give a look at BLR's Rebirth, it's an OTC SERM product
with great reviews. And can definitely help you recover from such a mild compound. It would make a great
addition to your Sup3r PCT & Anafuse.
 
^^ yep they have you covered. If you're not going to run a serm, which you probably should if you can get one, run rebirth. And then drop daa like suggested.
 
vujade said:
1- andro is great all around for recomping and also lean bulking. Diet and training will be the key to success.

I would start with 300mg per day for at least 2 week, then maybe bump up to 400mg per day in week 3.

I ran 1-andro for 8 weeks with no issues and bumped it up to 440mg by the end (my caps were 110mg each)

As Yatess84 said, Lethargy issues will arise, as well as libido issues from 1-andro. you many want to stack
4-andro or epi andro with it starting in the beginning of week 3 to combat it.

You should still be able to take a pwo, but i would monitor your BP for the 1st few weeks to see how your
body is reacting to the PH's. I usually hit the local pharmacy every couple days to see how my BP is doing.
As long as I'm below 140/90 i will still use my pwo's.. Anything over 140/90 and you are in the high blood
pressure zone.

In regards to your PCT, i have 2 recommendations for you....

1. drop the DAA, unless you already bought it. Recent studies have shown at 3g per day it did nothing & at 6g it lowered Test.

2. if you dont plan to run an RC or Pharma SERM, give a look at BLR's Rebirth, it's an OTC SERM product
with great reviews. And can definitely help you recover from such a mild compound. It would make a great
addition to your Sup3r PCT & Anafuse.
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Agree with drop the daa. Super pct has sodium daa and that has been proven to actually boost test, regular daa does nothing. You should own a bp monitor and check bp daily if you are cycling
 
Thanks for all the replies! Appreciate all the help. Just to make sure I understand correctly, for the PCT, it can be:
1) Sup3r PCT with Rebirth or
2) Sup3r PCT with a SERM

If going with a SERM, can any of you PM or reply with a lead as to where I can get a hold of Nolva? Dosing would be 20/20/10/10?

Also, since I'm currently on a OTC PCT for my Osta Shred cycle, how long can I wait before I can start the 1-andro? Thank you.
 
imchurki said:
Thanks for all the replies! Appreciate all the help. Just to make sure I understand correctly, for the PCT, it can be:
1) Sup3r PCT with Rebirth or
2) Sup3r PCT with a SERM

If going with a SERM, can any of you PM or reply with a lead as to where I can get a hold of Nolva? Dosing would be 20/20/10/10?

Also, since I'm currently on a OTC PCT for my Osta Shred cycle, how long can I wait before I can start the 1-andro? Thank you.
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Time on + pct = time off. Follow this rule with all hormonal and you might be able to keep your hpta in one piece
 
I just ordered my SERM. Based on your recommendation, I won't be able to start the 1-andro for another 3 months. Would taking natty products like ABE and ArA be ok? Or should I save it for the pct (if needed like Yates mentioned) and just be supplement free during these 3 months? I'm not clear if taking natty products would be ok once I'm done with my current pct from osta shred. Thanks for all the help.
 
imchurki said:
I just ordered my SERM. Based on your recommendation, I won't be able to start the 1-andro for another 3 months. Would taking natty products like ABE and ArA be ok? Or should I save it for the pct (if needed like Yates mentioned) and just be supplement free during these 3 months? I'm not clear if taking natty products would be ok once I'm done with my current pct from osta shred. Thanks for all the help.
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Natty supplements are perfect for off time, they are non hormonal and will keep your gains coming. I really like epic unleashed for off time and pct, it has allowed me to keep moving forward where off time used to be very stagnant. Pa, ara, and laxogenin are all good options as well
 
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