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New PH released Element Nutrition

as an on-cycle anti-estrogen, .25mg EOD.

*At this rate, 1mL of letro lasts 20 days! (2.5mg/mL)
 
thanks dude!!!!!! finally some1 gives me a great answear on side note if i decide to bulk on dbol only (yes i know forbiden) could i use letro? (i have no test-e access)
 
i don't see why not
 
ok well if i cant; get the winstrol then i will just run dbol with some letro. this should keep some of the water and estro sides down right correct? if i cant get dbol ill run the sd/pp.
 
Well, it is your body and I wish you the best. Personally I don't what the hell is wrong with a cyle of good old Test E with some Dianabol, but I miss the old school more than others. And I do realize availability is an issue, but I think one of the reasons these things usually end up blacklisted is because we as a community could exercise a little more care and restraint in what w advocate. This dude doesn't even know what a SERM is, or didn't at least. As far as I'm concerned that preDISqualifies you from cycling until you learn more.

And remember, not all sides are sides you can see and feel. You won't know if your liver enzymes are skyrocketing until you test for them or until your eyes turn yellow.

UnrealMachine said:
I do agree that the double and triple stacked products are pretty retarded, I do more bridges than stacks myself... but enough people have stacked just about all of them together to know about what to expect. No synergy is capable of producing some huge multiplicative effect... It's really more like the sum... The synergy comes from being able to run the sweet spot on each compound.

20 Epi, 12 SD and 60 tren isn't so bad, it's enough to make gains off each but none is run high enough to give much sides. So the main sides will be shutdown as the sum of the three... you probably wouldn't get many other sides from those doses, and can still make good gains.

When i stacked SD & PP i got less sides than running either because I kept SD at 20 (30 causes backpumps a lot more) and PP at 30 (40+ has higher rate of backpumps & chance at nipple soreness). Interestingly enough, when combined i didn't get a single backpump... And no taurine.
(Maybe sides would have hit me if i ran it longer, but i didn't. )
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trust me if i had test-e id love to throw it in as well.. yah alot of ppl in gym that i meet also use PH btu they have no idea what pct or cycle supports are. one idiot actually said PH dont need PCT they arent DS. ......... he now rebounded/ has a belly/ muscles seem soft/ gyno......
 
i dont know if i am crosing the line here but, how much would it be for a 10ml aple of test-e , ? sorry if i am
 
I seriously hope you set this bottle down, spend a few months doing research and organizing a propper cycle, get your support supps in line, PCT on hand, etc...before you consider picking that bottle back up.

sorry bud, but it doesn't sound like you understand what you're about to put in your body.

also, be carefull stacking products that you're not familiar with individually! if sides occur you won't know what direction they're coming from...
 
over the counter PCT will not be smart. YOU NEED a SERM. And you need to educate yourself on what you are doing or get ready to lose all your gains and more and maybe get bitch tits!
 
corsaking said:
running epi at 60 mg is not recommended , in fact most posts ive read on it suggest no higher than 40 mg also if you can get benefit from taking less why take more.
as for SD i cannot comment but running higher doses of any steroid runs the risk of inviting more sides.

Stacking 2 or more steroids in one capsule./tablet by different manufacturers seems to be "fashionable " at the moment and i see it purely as a sales gimmick without any regard for health
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Actually alot of the companies that do this argue that taking a lower dosage of multilple DS's will create a synergy and at the same time reduce the possibility of harsh sides. So in essence, the goal is to give extremely good results without the redonculous sides. Whether it works or not I dunno. Good theory tho.
 
Did your bottle come with a safety seal of any kind? I had one bottle of Tren arrive with an open safety seal and then a bottle of 'Warrior' with no seal arrive (it it doesn look like it ever had one... no glue around rim). Thats 0/2 on safety seals.
 
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