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New LegalGear Transdermals

We are just getting the ability to get credit cards done, so it will take a day or two longer than expected before people can order. Should be soon though...
 
1. What is the difference between Legal Gear and LG Sciences ?

2. Which pharmacutical company did you use to work for before ?
 
ReaperX said:
1. What is the difference between Legal Gear and LG Sciences ?

2. Which pharmacutical company did you use to work for before ?
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Legal Gear was the old company that made PHs n some other things, i belevie they wanted to go a different route and Legal Gear was licensed to LG Sciences. I could be wrong but i think thats what went down. I dont know about ur other question.
 
LegalGear is owned by a different entity than LG Sciences. LG Sciences is actually a different company. The two made and make different products. LegalGear licensed some of its products to LG Sciences but is in the business of making its own products too, like these upcoming topicals.
 
3clipseGT said:
I used 800mgs of oral 1-androsterone and LOVED it, so 350-400mgs of trans should be amazing.
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This is something that grapefruit juice will increase amount absorbed. I could swear I remember reading that it is metabolized in gut by CYP3A4 enzyme. I think most of the prohormones are metabolized by the cyp enzyme.
 
abish said:
I was under the impression that i would have to dose higher since it it rans not oral. also how about the 19nor dosage
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No most products that arent methylated when done in transdermal can be dosed lower like 4-ad for example back in the day. Oral was like 1200mgs or so where trans was about 400-600.
 
I want good transdermals..... drool
 
Questions, questions, questions...

In your thread Invalid Link Removed you discussed the Ultimate Safety Stack, 19NorAndrosterone + 11-Keto-Androstenedione, saying:

LegalGear said:
19NorAndrosterone has very little negative side effects like hairloss and prostate enlargement and is great for long term use and by people over 45, which makes it a very mild prohormone that may even increase hair growth and reduce the prostate size.
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1. Does that mean use of LGP 19Nor - 3.6g - 19NorAndrosterone (4-ene) will not result in hairloss?

2. Also, will the use of Finasteride act as an additional buffer to this?

3. How many containers are required for a complete cycle?

4. Is PCT still required? - Only asking about 19NorAndrosterone.

5. What type of gains are expected for the average 1st time user?

I know, a lot of questions, but I've never done a prohormone specifically for these reasons (and others of course), but this could be the ticket! So I want to thank you in advance for taking the time to answer my questions!
 
If there is a significant conversion to nandrolone, there could be libido issues. I don't know that 11-oxo would address those.
 
ctrivedi said:
In your thread Invalid Link Removed you discussed the Ultimate Safety Stack, 19NorAndrosterone + 11-Keto-Androstenedione, saying:



1. Does that mean use of LGP 19Nor - 3.6g - 19NorAndrosterone (4-ene) will not result in hairloss?

2. Also, will the use of Finasteride act as an additional buffer to this?

3. How many containers are required for a complete cycle?

4. Is PCT still required? - Only asking about 19NorAndrosterone.

5. What type of gains are expected for the average 1st time user?

I know, a lot of questions, but I've never done a prohormone specifically for these reasons (and others of course), but this could be the ticket! So I want to thank you in advance for taking the time to answer my questions!
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Here is the deal:

Adding Finasteride or beta sitosterol to 19Nor will make the product stronger but change the profile slightly. Still will be easier on the hairline than doing a 4-Andro or EpiAndro or 1-Andro cycle...

PCT is still needed.

Gains are dependent on so many factors, but with a 19Nor dosed properly, then I would say 6-12 pounds of CLEAN muscle in a cycle of 4-8 weeks...
 
jonny21 said:
This is something that grapefruit juice will increase amount absorbed. I could swear I remember reading that it is metabolized in gut by CYP3A4 enzyme. I think most of the prohormones are metabolized by the cyp enzyme.
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Cytochrome P-450 is an enzyme that metabolizes a lot of the drugs we ingest, and GFJ inhibits Cytochrome P-450, which doesn't allow it to metabolize the drugs properly that leads to higher concentrations of the drug.
 
We are trying to get it done. The credit card processing company is taking forever to certify the new site. If you want to do some pre-orders via email then we can do that.
 
LegalGear said:
We are trying to get it done. The credit card processing company is taking forever to certify the new site. If you want to do some pre-orders via email then we can do that.
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I'd be down for that. What e-mail address do we hit you up at?
 
Most def, and and if your stuff is good, I want to buy it in quantity and save it for later so not to hate on my liver again.
 
Which of these products are equivalent to 1-T and 4-AD?

The best transdermal stack, and basically the best PH stack I've used ever, was 1/T and 4-AD mixed in T-Gel carrier.

Carrier aside, which of these "throwback" products are equivalents of 1-T and 4-AD? I'm going to order some as soon as they become available... please make them available :)
 
this topical product, what product from Legal Gear's past is it most similar to? M1-T, M1-Alpha, M1-P ? sorry about my ignorance, but you chemistry guys always seem to know that the hell is going on.
 
silverSurfer said:
The best transdermal stack, and basically the best PH stack I've used ever, was 1/T and 4-AD mixed in T-Gel carrier.

Carrier aside, which of these "throwback" products are equivalents of 1-T and 4-AD? I'm going to order some as soon as they become available... please make them available :)
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Nevermind, I think I found the answer on your website:

Ultimate Mass Stack
1-Androsterone + 4-Androsterone = Combination of wet and dry compounds for maximum gains


... so, can I order these now? :)
 
The problem is that I don't have any 4-Andro, but would you like a 1-Andro / DHEA combo? Maybe add in 1g of DHEA for the "wet" effect.
 
Are you going to get the 4-andro, LG???

I'm with Silver - 1-T/4-AD was my best cycle ever. Would LOVE to run that sort of stack again.
 
I can't wait to get them up on our site! If I don't have an answer on Monday, I will get you a site where you can preorder. My fiance has a site up for her cosmetics and you guys can order there.
 
The topicals are ready to begin shipping, we don't have the credit card processing on the web site yet, but if you want to call and place an order, then the number to our office is:

877-861-6502

60 servings per bottle:

LGP-1T - 75mg 1-Androsterone per serving - $39.99

LGP-19NOR - 65mg 19Nor-4-Androsterone per serving $44.95

LGP-5aA - 100mg EpiAndrosterone per serving $34.99

LGP-ECY - 85mg Ecdysterone per serving $34.99

You can call tomorrow to order!
 
LegalGear said:
The topicals are ready to begin shipping, we don't have the credit card processing on the web site yet, but if you want to call and place an order, then the number to our office is:

877-861-6502

60 servings per bottle:

LGP-1T - 75mg 1-Androsterone per serving - $39.99

LGP-19NOR - 65mg 19Nor-4-Androsterone per serving $44.95

LGP-5aA - 100mg EpiAndrosterone per serving $34.99

LGP-ECY - 85mg Ecdysterone per serving $34.99

You can call tomorrow to order!
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Awesome!!:cheers:
 
So if i wanted the equivalent of 600mg's 1-test in my system how much 1-Androsterone would i have to use?
 
I'd have to dig out what I ran for a dermal 1-test dose - but what about the equiv. of 600 mgs/day of dermal 1-test Eric?
 
Well, I would think that would be too high to even consider. I think comparing an inject to a dermal is tough to be honest, but the best cycle I ever did was a dermal, so I know that they can be very effective. As for exact dosing, it is really very tough to say IMHO since there are so many factors. Probably the best thing to do if you want that high is combine some oral and topical dosing.
 
So what does EpiAndrosterone convert to? And do you know the A/A ratio? Sorry for all the questions i'm just getting gitty thinking about how much i used to like 1-test and 4-ad.

After this batch any chance of higher dosing? Like 200mg/serving like the old Dermabolics :)
 
CHAPS said:
So what does EpiAndrosterone convert to? And do you know the A/A ratio? Sorry for all the questions i'm just getting gitty thinking about how much i used to like 1-test and 4-ad.

After this batch any chance of higher dosing? Like 200mg/serving like the old Dermabolics :)
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Epi converts to DHT. Im not sure on the A/A ratio. It depends on how well these sell, im sure if they sell well and people stay interested possibilities for Eric are endless!
 
in your opinion what is the best transdermal or transdermal stack here for a decent gain of clean weight with solid strength gains without a drop in libido. something comaparable to the old 1-ad without the libido drop is what i mean.
 
Epi andro is not in anyway shape or form related to the Epithio products out. It converts to stanolone.

Id go with a Epiandro/19nor stack. Im not sure if the epi will be enough to ward off any "deca dic" but im sure if you get a nice AI you should have no problems and strength gains/lean mass gains will be amazing!
 
jmh80 said:
I'd have to dig out what I ran for a dermal 1-test dose - but what about the equiv. of 600 mgs/day of dermal 1-test Eric?
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i am pretty sure 600 mg a day of trans 1 test would be ridiculously high, i think it was something like 250-400
 
i just called that 1-877-861-6502 and the guy at lgsciences had no idea of what i was trying to order
 
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