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New E-pharm product: URSOBOLIC !

Sorry about the lack of updates but I've been traveling quite a bit lately so my lifting schedule is a bit off. I still try to maintain a workout schedule by finding hotels with decent gyms but it's never quite the same. As far as VitaTest is concerned I have been dosing at 4 tabs first thing in the morning for about a month. I have also been using UA at 9 tabs/day for about six weeks. All-in-all I have seen little progress as far as my physique is concerned. I was about to scuttle the entire cycle when I climbed on the scales Saturday and viola, my weight has increased by 3.8 lbs and my waist is about 1/2"smaller. I also noticed significant strength increases in the gym. Now I have increased my dosage of UA to 12 tabs/day, but otherwise everything else is exactly the same. As I have said all along, I'm not sure how much to attribute to UA and how much to attribute to VT but as long as the stack is working I really don't care since both are beneficial from a health standpoint. I wil lcontinue this stack for another few weeks and report back.
 
BBB: What's UA?
 
LMAOOOOOO Im a dumbass

BRAIN FART

I misread BBB's post (3 above) and it sounded like he was running something else alongside the Ursobolic Acid

haha

Sorry all



Joint Fracture said:
You're just jerking our chain right?

UA= Ursobolic Acid. You know, as in the subject of this thread.

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BBB said:
Sorry about the lack of updates but I've been traveling quite a bit lately so my lifting schedule is a bit off. I still try to maintain a workout schedule by finding hotels with decent gyms but it's never quite the same. As far as VitaTest is concerned I have been dosing at 4 tabs first thing in the morning for about a month. I have also been using UA at 9 tabs/day for about six weeks. All-in-all I have seen little progress as far as my physique is concerned. I was about to scuttle the entire cycle when I climbed on the scales Saturday and viola, my weight has increased by 3.8 lbs and my waist is about 1/2"smaller. I also noticed significant strength increases in the gym. Now I have increased my dosage of UA to 12 tabs/day, but otherwise everything else is exactly the same. As I have said all along, I'm not sure how much to attribute to UA and how much to attribute to VT but as long as the stack is working I really don't care since both are beneficial from a health standpoint. I wil lcontinue this stack for another few weeks and report back.
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Weight Gain + Waist Reduction = Lean Mass...good job
 
A couple of other things I might add. My libido is ridiculously high, this undoubtedly due to the VT. I am also noticing a little lethargy, again probably due to the VT. I think I will add some DHEA to this stack to combat the lethargy.
 
I just finished my 4th bottle. My weight is about the same but I'm slowly leaning out. Joints are feeling good, sleep/mood have been good. I had my blood pressure checked once again last night and it's still at 120/70, down slightly from where it normally is. I'm going to run this for the next 4 months and see what happens. I feel this is working. Workouts have been inconsistent and my diet has been all over the place, but I am losing some fat. I'll post periodically on my progress.
 
edvanp said:
I just finished my 4th bottle. My weight is about the same but I'm slowly leaning out. Joints are feeling good, sleep/mood have been good. I had my blood pressure checked once again last night and it's still at 120/70, down slightly from where it normally is. I'm going to run this for the next 4 months and see what happens. I feel this is working. Workouts have been inconsistent and my diet has been all over the place, but I am losing some fat. I'll post periodically on my progress.
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What is you're dosing protocol?
 
Had to restart my ursobolic run again so am now at day 7 on 18- 9pills twice per day
prob to early to see effects but had a good pump in my workout today not had a good pump for a while now and maybe maybe a little tighter/drier
think its early days tho i dont want to jump the gun yet and claim effects, but will keep posted in the coming weeks on any fullness/leaness changes,
running 18per day for 1month then at end of the month if i think its working i will continue but have to drop to 9pills per day as in the UK the cheapest that 1 bottle can be bought for works out as $25 per bottle! and cant afford more than 9pills per day if i continue after 1 month.
Total Bummer.
 
BBB said:
Nine per day didn't do squat for me. Twelve per day hasn't done much either, thus far.
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Have you noticed any appetite supression on either dose? that's been it's biggest effect for me...have been running 9/9/9/12/12, dropped it back to 9 as of yesterday....
 
Not overly impressed so far, I understand there are health benefits also sooo. ....definitely up for more feedback.
 
schizm said:
Have you noticed any appetite supression on either dose? that's been it's biggest effect for me...have been running 9/9/9/12/12, dropped it back to 9 as of yesterday....
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I appetite suppression during the day, not so much at night do not understand that one but dealing with an injury over the last month or so and not noticing any atrophy in the affected areas, ...thats a good thing
 
OUCH

Anyone planning on making a powder soon? :(

That's a TON of pills to choke down daily

miniarnold said:
Had to restart my ursobolic run again so am now at day 7 on 18- 9pills twice per day

18per day for 1month
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Whacked said:
OUCH

Anyone planning on making a powder soon? :(

That's a TON of pills to choke down daily
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doubt a powder will ever fly its light and fluffy and absolutely will NOT dissolve in water. 3 caps is a serving same for AI's testopro don't see any complaints about that somehow one person complained about too many capsules and not that seems to be a major source of contention.
 
a pure ua powder source would be goodbut i imagine v expensive and hard to obtain
most of the time im emptying the caps and mixing them with 2 meals so its really like im not swallowing 18pills per day, just adding some green powder to 2 of my meals
 
I can appreciate that BUT many of us are already on 10-30+ caps a day of other staple supps ;)


truthornothin said:
doubt a powder will ever fly its light and fluffy and absolutely will NOT dissolve in water. 3 caps is a serving same for AI's testopro don't see any complaints about that somehow one person complained about too many capsules and not that seems to be a major source of contention.
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Bulk Powder is always cheaper than pill form. One less step

miniarnold said:
a pure ua powder source would be goodbut i imagine v expensive and hard to obtain
most of the time im emptying the caps and mixing them with 2 meals so its really like im not swallowing 18pills per day, just adding some green powder to 2 of my meals
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Whacked said:
OUCH

Anyone planning on making a powder soon? :(

That's a TON of pills to choke down daily
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you think a powder is gonna be more convenient?

tell ya what. pour the powder out of the capsules and test for yourself how fun it is to consume the powder directly. or try mixing it in your protein shake.

you will be right back to capsules. and if you think you are gonna save money by making your own caps from this stuff good luck. it is god awful stuff to encapulate. i can only imagine what a mess someone would make with this stuff with a quick em cap machine
 
Whacked said:
OUCH

Anyone planning on making a powder soon? :(

That's a TON of pills to choke down daily
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the pills are not big. i put about 9 in my hand and swallow them all with one gulp. not everyone is as good as swallowing as i am though


(spare me the crude jokes pleeze)
 
miniarnold said:
a pure ua powder source would be goodbut i imagine v expensive and hard to obtain
most of the time im emptying the caps and mixing them with 2 meals so its really like im not swallowing 18pills per day, just adding some green powder to 2 of my meals
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how do you mix it with your food?
 
The amount of pills doesn't bother me. I am curious in anyways to enhance absorption. I saw one competitor is now adding a cyclodextrin. Any thoughts on this?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
well then buy powder forms of your other staple supps!
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Patrick, I demand you satisfy everyone with your products, you provide failure after failure. I dunno how you have lasted so long in the biz.

How about you start a company called, "Custom-Epharm" that way people can order exactly what they want at all times, and at their selected price.
 
ax1 said:
Patrick, I demand you satisfy everyone with your products, you provide failure after failure. I dunno how you have lasted so long in the biz.

How about you start a company called, "Custom-Epharm" that way people can order exactly what they want at all times, and at their selected price.
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lol, that was priceless
 
Ev52 said:
The amount of pills doesn't bother me. I am curious in anyways to enhance absorption. I saw one competitor is now adding a cyclodextrin. Any thoughts on this?
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adding a cyclodextrin. gimme a freaking break. you just dont "add a cyclodextrin" and hope for magic to happen. you have to go through a manufacturing process to complex the product within the cyclodextrin.

and cyclodextrins are not a good solution for UA to begin with. i know a lot about the subject as i have manufactured these complexes
 
Patrick Arnold said:
adding a cyclodextrin. gimme a freaking break. you just dont "add a cyclodextrin" and hope for magic to happen. you have to go through a manufacturing process to complex the product within the cyclodextrin.

and cyclodextrins are not a good solution for UA to begin with. i know a lot about the subject as i have manufactured these complexes
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I knew you did, that's why I asked. I enjoyed reading your posts about cyclodextrins and resveratrol in the past. Would ursolic acid even fit in a cyclodextrin?
 
Patrick Arnold said:
how do you mix it with your food?
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quite easy :knockedout:

empty them @bfast and mix them with steak mince when cooked, then eat a bowl of oats with udos oil in straight after
(thought about mixing in with the oats straight from microwave but wasnt sure if this would be to hot for the powder)

@evening meal empty them and mix with rice and c.oil, or mix in with veg then eat some protein and oil

i never get smoke burps or it repeat on me when i empty the pills

this is how i do it most of the time maybe a few times i will down the pills if i cant mix it with what im eating (say a rye bread sandwich)
 
Ev52 said:
I knew you did, that's why I asked. I enjoyed reading your posts about cyclodextrins and resveratrol in the past. Would ursolic acid even fit in a cyclodextrin?
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its too big for beta-cyclodextrin derivatives. there are studies showing that it can fit into gamma derivatives but the concentrations you can acheive still are way too little to do much of any good. i am sure a company like legal gear will solve all that though
 
Patrick Arnold said:
how do you mix it with your food?
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i assume its ok to mix the raw powder, and it doesnt need to stay in the caps to ensure it reaches a certain point in the gutt b4 the caps are dissolved and the powder is digested.
i believe you consumed the powder in its raw form without the caps when you were experimenting, if so how did you consume the raw powder
 
Also since I've been taking tons of pills for so long I really could care less if Ursobolic adds 5 or 15 more to the bunch. I don't think it's going to make a difference I will notice.
 
BBB said:
It's not the number of pills but the cost of such high doses that bothers most of us.
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Its comparable to most other designer products, were only talking $15 a bottle here, 2-3 bottles at $30-$45 a month depending on how high you want to run it.
 
miniarnold said:
i assume its ok to mix the raw powder, and it doesnt need to stay in the caps to ensure it reaches a certain point in the gutt b4 the caps are dissolved and the powder is digested.
i believe you consumed the powder in its raw form without the caps when you were experimenting, if so how did you consume the raw powder
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in protein drink with some veggie oil added
 
ax1 said:
Its comparable to most other designer products, were only talking $15 a bottle here, 2-3 bottles at $30-$45 a month depending on how high you want to run it.
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Yeah the whole capsule price thing boggles me. There are a lot of products out there that require multiple capsules per dose. I do not take a multivitamin, I take them all individually I swallow 20+capsules not including ursobolic every morning. At nine caps a day urso is costing me thirty, actually bargain priced compared to many other supps, nobody ever used Cheaters? I used to take that at 12 caps a pop
 
Read one of the studies linked on the epharm page and it mentioned this,

"Animals given ursolic acid also became leaner and had lower blood levels of glucose, cholesterol and triglycerides. The findings therefore suggest that ursolic acid may be responsible for some of the overall benefits of healthy eating."

How much of a drop in total cholesterol can one expect from Ursobolic?. Have any humans done before/during/after blood work including glucose, cholesterol and triglycerides?
 
T-Bone said:
Read one of the studies linked on the epharm page and it mentioned this,

"Animals given ursolic acid also became leaner and had lower blood levels of glucose, cholesterol and triglycerides. The findings therefore suggest that ursolic acid may be responsible for some of the overall benefits of healthy eating."

How much of a drop in total cholesterol can one expect from Ursobolic?. Have any humans done before/during/after blood work including glucose, cholesterol and triglycerides?
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way too preliminary to put any numbers to these
 
Patrick Arnold said:
way too preliminary to put any numbers to these
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My doctor screamed at me last year because my hdls were so low, not exactly "before" but "way before" Currently on nine ursobolic a day, my bp was down 10 points top and bottom from the last time I had it checked went I went in to get my injury checked out. I'm broke or I'd be glad get some blood drawn to look at my cholesterol levels and make up if anyone wants to chip in:)
 
truthornothin said:
My doctor screamed at me last year because my hdls were so low, not exactly "before" but "way before" Currently on nine ursobolic a day, my bp was down 10 points top and bottom from the last time I had it checked went I went in to get my injury checked out. I'm broke or I'd be glad get some blood drawn to look at my cholesterol levels and make up if anyone wants to chip in:)
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Would Love to see this... if you ever get blood drawn post up numbers please!!!!"
 
Bryanz47 said:
Would Love to see this... if you ever get blood drawn post up numbers please!!!!"
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Insurance says it'll be April we'll see though
 
truthornothin said:
My doctor screamed at me last year because my hdls were so low, not exactly "before" but "way before" Currently on nine ursobolic a day, my bp was down 10 points top and bottom from the last time I had it checked went I went in to get my injury checked out. I'm broke or I'd be glad get some blood drawn to look at my cholesterol levels and make up if anyone wants to chip in:)
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Dr. D also commented on this on his forum.

PA, did you see the new Fore Runner Labs Ursol XT Product? Invalid Link Removed
 
My doc says its not worth it to get blood cholesterol checked more often than every 6 months. I got blood drawn on Nov 21st and I'm still waiting for the idiots to send me the results in the mail. Had to call them and ask and they had a nurse read some of numbers to me over the phone. Morons. I'm not Ursobolic, but maybe I'll start and do pre and post bloodwork for 6 months of usage. That is if I win the lottery or find enough money in my couch cushions to run ursobolic at full dosage for 6 months....
 
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