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New E-pharm product: URSOBOLIC !

ax1 said:
Right...and a prop blend may have as little as .02mg to make a label. Nobody will be able to answer a c20 vs. Ursobolic question other than w/ Ursobolic we have an idea of how much we are getting.

It just doesnt work for you on a physiological level at the doses your taking and in the period of time so far.

This is just a trial and error issue for you, your not satisfied and its time to move on as you have previously stated. Its happened to me with other products as well we all been on the same boat here.
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I agree. So far VERY DISAPPOINTED.
 
truthornothin said:
nobody knows could be some, could be none, its the classic "proprietary blend" lable, standardized for Triterpenoids but which ones? and at what percent? It your typical USP gobbledy gook
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Exactly

No one knows. Ua is not directly listed on the c20 label. Apparently it is contained within one of the ingredients, along with oleanic acid.. That's what I read in another thread..

I'm curious actually bc I would like to CONTINUE ua, but I would also like to try adding in c20 with it! That's why I asked.. Just trying to figure out how much of what I would be puttin in my body.
 
chedapalooza said:
Exactly

No one knows. Ua is not directly listed on the c20 label. Apparently it is contained within one of the ingredients, along with oleanic acid.. That's what I read in another thread..

I'm curious actually bc I would like to CONTINUE ua, but I would also like to try adding in c20 with it! That's why I asked.. Just trying to figure out how much of what I would be puttin in my body.
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It will be impossible to know...but I dont see why it would be negative to add c20 to ursobolic even with the additional whatever it is.

Be sure to check out this thread before purchasing c20
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ax1 said:
Right...and a prop blend may have as little as .02mg to make a label. Nobody will be able to answer a c20 vs. Ursobolic question other than w/ Ursobolic we have an idea of how much we are getting.



It just doesnt work for you on a physiological level at the doses your taking and in the period of time so far.

This is just a trial and error issue for you, your not satisfied and its time to move on as you have previously stated. Its happened to me with other products as well we all been on the same boat here.
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The thing is the label says nothing about ursolic acid, it says "triterpenoids" not which ones or how much, as far as the other goes, constituents of chocolate, there's a can of Cocoa in my cupboard lol
 
Mission1 said:
Maybe c20 is the real deal:)))
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Start a log (inner circle release was yesterday but I have no where to fit it in so I didn't bother purchasing)

I would be interested to see how you respond to c20 since u are not responding to urso.. I guess c20 is like a "safe" clen.. I respond well to clen.. Big gains, not so lean though.. I sweat like a mother.. My diet was dirty at the time .. But now my lifestyle overall is much cleaner.. Gonna fit c20 in prob in feb/march..

But I digress!! You should def start a log on it once it's released.
 
ax1 said:
It will be impossible to know...but I dont see why it would be negative to add c20 to ursobolic even with the additional whatever it is.

Be sure to check out this thread before purchasing c20
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Ok I read thru it, but not sure what I was looking at in all honesty..

I don't plan on purchasing (if I even do) until feb at the earliest.. So by then I'm confident there will be much more feedback..
 
chedapalooza said:
Ok I read thru it, but not sure what I was looking at in all honesty..

I don't plan on purchasing (if I even do) until feb at the earliest.. So by then I'm confident there will be much more feedback..
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Its just skepticism and analysis worth looking at for now, its a little info out there as of now outside of the usplabs forums...if you wanna try it I hope it works out well for you.
 
I will definitely wait to to see how it goes with c20. Not gonna be a guinea pig for this one. I'll seat back and watch.Besides I read Pes has something in the works . Will wait for that ad well. Anabeta was banging for me.
 
Mission1 said:
I will definitely wait to to see how it goes with c20. Not gonna be a guinea pig for this one. I'll seat back and watch.Besides I read Pes has something in the works . Will wait for that ad well. Anabeta was banging for me.
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Cycle off Cycle on etc.... the stuff seems to be great for you.
 
Mission1 said:
I will definitely wait to to see how it goes with c20. Not gonna be a guinea pig for this one. I'll seat back and watch.Besides I read Pes has something in the works . Will wait for that ad well. Anabeta was banging for me.
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Yea AB is legit.. Did 4 weeks.. Currently off for 4.. Got 8 weeks of erase, urso, n anabeta plus Oep n alpha t2 for December n Jan! Woo gonna be the leanest bulk ever. Gonna enjoy the holidays too for sure.
 
Next time you develop a product make sure your not drunk and rush it out because your afraid somebody would have it out before you .and get get done real vets tester. You like testing everybody else's stuff. Practice what u preach !
 
Mission1 said:
Next time you develop a product make sure your not drunk and rush it out because your afraid somebody would have it out before you . You like testing everybody else's stuff. Practice what u preach !
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Mission1 said:
Next time you develop a product make sure your not drunk and rush it out because your afraid somebody would have it out before you .and get get done real vets tester. You like testing everybody else's stuff. Practice what u preach !
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But your basing this off your own personal anecdotal experience.

If you ran Winstrol in the next several months and your progress was miniscule do you think production should be dropped based off of your own anecdotal experience?

The supplement world (and I dont mean this as an insult to you) doesnt revolve around you.
 
ax1 said:
But your basing this off your own personal anecdotal experience.

If you ran Winstrol in the next several months and your progress was miniscule do you think production should be dropped based off of your own anecdotal experience?

The supplement world (and I dont mean this as an insult to you) doesnt revolve around you.
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Look around the boards, there are a lot of folks having very positive results nothing works for every one the same way. Take yohimbe for example, for lots of folks it is an aphrodisiac. It sends my Crotch rocket on a crash and burn, shrivles like I dived into the antarctic ocean. My physiology is just different enough for it not to work. It could be the same way with you and ursolic acid. Perhaps something you eat or another supplement or perhaps your mind is so set its not working that you are not going to see it even if it is is working sort of a reverse placebo effect. At any rate no need to continue flogging a dead horse... find another pony and ride off
 
truthornothin said:
Look around the boards, there are a lot of folks having very positive results nothing works for every one the same way. Take yohimbe for example, for lots of folks it is an aphrodisiac. It sends my Crotch rocket on a crash and burn, shrivles like I dived into the antarctic ocean. My physiology is just different enough for it not to work. It could be the same way with you and ursolic acid. Perhaps something you eat or another supplement or perhaps your mind is so set its not working that you are not going to see it even if it is is working sort of a reverse placebo effect. At any rate no need to continue flogging a dead horse... find another pony and ride off
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Stop licking ass. He's not going to make you a rep.
 
wow i typed something but it got erased....

Anyway, With all due respect Patrick Arnold is posting on here for us. As far as supplement CLAIMS. He has said it has shown to preserve muscle, and have a very good recomping effect. Has good effects on cholesterol profile etc.

As far as practicing what he preaches, he said during summer he used it, and got ripped while eating whatever he wanted and consumed coupious amounts of alcohol. He tests other products the same way, on himself.
So he's pretty safe there
Also, how many products have you taken that didn't work? On the board here he has a couple loggers that are enjoying it, if we took any of their statements and put them up on a advertisement you know what we'd get? Something VERY similar to a USPlabs marketing ad! But does he do that? Nope, he just said he used a lot of it during summer and it kept him lean.

I guess what I wanna say is don't bash the dude for trying to give you advice. His product dont work for you, weather it be bunk, crap or whatever I don't know, you bought it... In the end you vote with your dollars and your time.
 
Oh, and BTW... I'm not a rep for Epharm, or have I tried ANY products by them. I also don't have anything from them... I doubt Pat will even acknowledge my post. But regardless, from an outsider, you seem to be just another dissatisfied customer with the pleasure of bashing the product's creator.
 
truthornothin said:
Look around the boards, there are a lot of folks having very positive results nothing works for every one the same way. Take yohimbe for example, for lots of folks it is an aphrodisiac. It sends my Crotch rocket on a crash and burn, shrivles like I dived into the antarctic ocean. My physiology is just different enough for it not to work. It could be the same way with you and ursolic acid. Perhaps something you eat or another supplement or perhaps your mind is so set its not working that you are not going to see it even if it is is working sort of a reverse placebo effect. At any rate no need to continue flogging a dead horse... find another pony and ride off
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Are you sure you dont want to be a Epharm rep Truth???

I heard he isnt going to be going be doing that with you unfortunately vvvvv
Mission1 said:
Stop licking ass. He's not going to make you a rep.
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ax1 said:
Are you sure you dont want to be a Epharm rep Truth???

I heard he isnt going to be going be doing that with you unfortunately vvvvv
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No ass licking required or desired, thank you very much. The Truth just tells it like it is and that's the Truth!!
 
truthornothin said:
No ass licking required or desired, thank you very much. The Truth just tells it like it is and that's the Truth!!
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Yeah.... Keep telling yourself that. Have good night:)
 
Mission1 said:
Stop licking ass. He's not going to make you a rep.
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Hmmm appears something your taking must be affecting your eyesight as you did not see the big Red E-PHARM Representative in my signature these last couple of weeks.. Not sure why that came across as licking ass, I was really nice even when you were terse earlier but since you chose to make this personal .... I think some one's Va jay jay is just a tad sandy
 
truthornothin said:
Hmmm appears something your taking must be affecting your eyesight as you did not see the big Red E-PHARM Representative in my signature these last couple of weeks.. Not sure why that came across as licking ass, I was really nice even when you were terse earlier but since you chose to make this personal .... I think some one's Va jay jay is just a tad sandy
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Your pretty lame to point that out. But it really doesn't matter. Enjoy.
 
Mission1 said:
Your pretty lame to point that out. But it really doesn't matter. Enjoy.
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What about when someone points out that someone will never be chosen to be a rep due to ass licking, yet they are already well established and well known on multiple forum communities to be a rep? Would they be lame? Genius? or what?
 
And for the record you were unnecessarily nasty with the licking ass comment. If you'll look back over our interactions I was nice even when PA was bashing you I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until you removed any. Still not sure why you lashed out at me, not that I take it seriously cuz' I don't I just enjoy a spirited argument and even some insult slinging as long and it makes someone laugh so no hard feeling, not really and lighten up dude life's short
 
ax1 said:
What about when someone points out that someone will never be chosen to be a rep due to ass licking, yet they are already well established and well known on multiple forum communities to be a rep? Would they be lame? Genius? or what?
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I definitely fall into the "or what" category lol With flashes of genius
 
truthornothin said:
And for the record you were unnecessarily nasty with the licking ass comment. If you'll look back over our interactions I was nice even when PA was bashing you I was giving you the benefit of the doubt until you removed any. Still not sure why you lashed out at me, not that I take it seriously cuz' I don't I just enjoy a spirited argument and even some insult slinging as long and it makes someone laugh so no hard feeling, not really and lighten up dude life's short
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I really don't think Patsy was bashing me. If he was it was as weak as this supplement that he advertise to work even when he was drinking. It's cool. I get it. Today's a new day. Im happy either way. Bad investment for me. And I still think you and Ax1 are ass lickers. And I'm still smiling about it as I'm taking a crap:))
 
Mission1 said:
I really don't think Patsy was bashing me. If he was it was as weak as this supplement that he advertise to work even when he was drinking. It's cool. I get it. Today's a new day. Im happy either way. Bad investment for me. And I still think you and Ax1 are ass lickers. And I'm still smiling about it as I'm taking a crap:))
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Blah Blah Blah, Ok Mission Impossible, and I still think you have sand in your Vagina but that's ok I'm still smiling too :slaphappy:
 
truthornothin said:
Blah Blah Blah, Ok Mission Impossible, and I still think you have sand in your Vagina but that's ok I'm still smiling too :slaphappy:
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For sale 3 bottles of ursobolic that naturally doesn't work, made by a chemist who used to make things that did work .
 
mattrag said:
Oh, and BTW... I'm not a rep for Epharm, or have I tried ANY products by them. I also don't have anything from them... I doubt Pat will even acknowledge my post. But regardless, from an outsider, you seem to be just another dissatisfied customer with the pleasure of bashing the product's creator.
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good morning
 
Mission1 said:
Stop licking ass. He's not going to make you a rep.
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Pat could you please oh please oh please make me a rep I'll do anything ......:lol: lol
 
truthornothin said:
Pat could you please oh please oh please make me a rep I'll do anything ......:lol: lol
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My vote goes for truthornothin...he will make an ok rep, give him a chance Patrick or ill stop buying Ursobolic, doesnt work anyways as well as Winstrol.
 
Mission1 said:
I really don't think Patsy was bashing me. If he was it was as weak as this supplement that he advertise to work even when he was drinking. It's cool. I get it. Today's a new day. Im happy either way. Bad investment for me. And I still think you and Ax1 are ass lickers. And I'm still smiling about it as I'm taking a crap:))
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All seriousness, if you spent all this time dieting and training without results there is something you need to do about your dieting and training and stop looking to supplements to solutions. Perhaps start with basics again and go from there.
 
ax1 said:
Ok, Im over here and Patrick Arnold is sitting on my face and Im loving it. Shaved too!

All seriousness, if you spent all this time dieting and training without results there is something you need to do about your dieting and training and stop looking to supplements to solutions. Perhaps start with basics again.
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Let's take a look at your avatar. Talk about training. 170??? Show me pics of any you guys leaning out. Including Patsy. All bullshi-.
 
Mission1 said:
Let's take a look at your avatar. Talk about training. 170??? Show me pics of any you guys leaning out. Including Patsy. All bullshi-.
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Ohhh....so your one of those bigger is badder meatheads, lol

I credit supplements 15% of my success....the rest is all diet and training which is something I wish you were to focus on.

Before and After 210 vs. 170

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Mission1 said:
Let's take a look at your avatar. Talk about training. 170??? Show me pics of any you guys leaning out. Including Patsy. All bullshi-.
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I'm getting truly tired of you Nancy, see pics here I have befores and afters and I started this log before I even thought of seeking a rep spot Invalid Link Removed and in case you have troubles pointing and clicking I'l post a a pic from the start and one from the last set right here. Bigger and more ripped so kick rocks dude Here are three from the start of my run


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Here are three pics from my last set three weeks in so now what?
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So hike up your skirt and move along
 
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