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New cycle- test/tren ace

timmmah

timmmah

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I am starting a new 12 week cycle today!
Weeks 1-3 500 mg sust 250
weeks 3-12 500 mg test enan
weeks 3-10 100 mg EOD tren ace

Starting weight 215
BF % 13.5
 
you should just run test e from the start and take out the sust.... i know you probably wanna start with it because it has short esters, but your better off just using test e and save the sust for another cycle..

pm me if ya need any help..
 
you need the HCG in there. I wouldn't run without it. 250iu twice a week. If you can't find HCG I hear running a small dose of clomid during cycle will keep the T factory doors open.
 
I have clomid, when you say a small amount, how small?
You're right about the reason I want to start with sust, but I don't have enough enan to make it as far ad I'd like. Sust should be okay for the first couple weeks, right?
 
Second shot of sust today, that stuff hurts more than I thought it would.
I dunno if it's a placebo effect but I felt strong today doing arms with a good pump
 
Subbed, good luck man, interested in how your cycle goes. So your just running the sust for a kickstart? If so, why only 3 weeks?
 
I'm starting the tren week three, and the 20 ml bottle of enan will last the remaining 9 weeks, and I will have some sust left to start it again next time.
 
I would suggest using all your test in the same time period so that u can get above the 600mg EW were many people believe test starts working well especially for someone over 200 pounds.
Also why r people suggesting to take hcg during cycle u r already getting plenty of test into your body. Hcg mimicks LH in your body causing u to produce your own test. In my opinion save the hcg for post cycle but u may want an anti armotase or SERM for gyno will on cycle but that's my opinion
 
bendit27 said:
I would suggest using all your test in the same time period so that u can get above the 600mg EW were many people believe test starts working well especially for someone over 200 pounds.
Also why r people suggesting to take hcg during cycle u r already getting plenty of test into your body. Hcg mimicks LH in your body causing u to produce your own test. In my opinion save the hcg for post cycle but u may want an anti armotase or SERM for gyno will on cycle but that's my opinion
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I agree, I'll up the test 1oo mg, couldn't hurt eh?
I also agree about the HCG, with this much test, limp noodle shouldn't come till after week 12 or so. I also am running arimidex weeks 2-12 and pct is clomid and a natty test booster
 
i would drop the sus and just run the test/tren maybe some some winnie at the end?
 
timmmah said:
I agree, I'll up the test 1oo mg, couldn't hurt eh?
I also agree about the HCG, with this much test, limp noodle shouldn't come till after week 12 or so. I also am running arimidex weeks 2-12 and pct is clomid and a natty test booster
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ur cycle looks ok i guess but if i could have given u my 2cc before u started i always push sust eod due to the short esters as all should for best results and you NEED to start the test e asap and should have ran from week one cause its not saturated into your system till week 2 or 3! now the tren same as well but i guess it all depends on a persons stash but here is my advice:
wk 1-3 250mg sust eod or e3d
wk 1-12 500mg test e ew or e3d
wk 1-12 100mg tren a eod

clomid hcg and or nova in place of clomid up to you, 20mg nolva 30-45days 50mg clomid for 30 days and hcg 2500iu twice a wk at week 11 or so.
 
bendit27 said:
Also why r people suggesting to take hcg during cycle u r already getting plenty of test into your body. Hcg mimicks LH in your body causing u to produce your own test. In my opinion save the hcg for post cycle but u may want an anti armotase or SERM for gyno will on cycle but that's my opinion
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Where have you been for the past couple years?
Look up the Swale protocol. It makes a hell of a lot more sense to take hcg on cycle. The whole point isn't to get a test boost, but to keep the testicles from atrophying, making recovery easier.
 
My appetite has been through the roof! anyone else experience this with sust? I'm not sure if it's just me getting excited about getting big and wanting to eat more, or what. I mean I shouldn't be feeling effects until at least week 2 ( end week 1 is today) right?
I have gained five pounds already and my BF% machine says I lost .2%.
 
Had the flu last weekend and I still feel a little crappy. Today is day 1 for tren! Injection was smooth and no coughing, maybe my gear's bunk. Weight dropped to 209, I've been eating, but I think I'm light from all the sweating at night. Still, I lost ten pounds with this flu and that sucks.
 
timmmah said:
Had the flu last weekend and I still feel a little crappy. Today is day 1 for tren! Injection was smooth and no coughing, maybe my gear's bunk. Weight dropped to 209, I've been eating, but I think I'm light from all the sweating at night. Still, I lost ten pounds with this flu and that sucks.
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sucks man! go to the doc and get some meds. not everyone gets "tren cough"....trust me, u DONT want it. out of 6 weeks on ace i got it 2 maybe 3 times....its a horrible feeling
 
HCG while on cycle keeps the barn doors open so the horsey's can come back when they are done playing with the bulls. But hey I'm no expert and obviously it can be done either way. Just depends if you want to rehab your boys back to life or keep them going the entire time.
 
nosnmiveins said:
sucks man! go to the doc and get some meds. not everyone gets "tren cough"....trust me, u DONT want it. out of 6 weeks on ace i got it 2 maybe 3 times....its a horrible feeling
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Where were you injecting? How was the injection site pain? When did you notice you were feeling effects from tren and what else did you run it with?
 
timmmah said:
Where were you injecting? How was the injection site pain? When did you notice you were feeling effects from tren and what else did you run it with?
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prop/tren. injected in glutes and quads, coughing came only with 2-3 glute injects. took about 2 weeks and strength went through the roof.....gyno appeared quickly as well
 
Start of week 4 of test and week 2 of tren. Noticing more rage than in previous cycles (never tried tren before) I tend to overreact to the little things, like when my wife doesn't hand me my burger right away and takes her sweet ass time deciding which one is mine. I didn't blow up, but it was close. Also VERY strange dreams, just like havoc, they seem real and are very far-fetched, like end of the world kinda stuff. Strength and stamina already through-the-roof.
 
thats the sign of size, just dont let it out on wife. anyone else is OK and funny just not wife u dont want marriege to go bad
 
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