"My rule" of thumb is no serm -no cycle . If you dont have a serm, you run the risk of getting gyno and you wont keep most or any of your gains. There is no sense of taking an AAS / PH and put the stress on your body and not reap the benefits. Personally I love Epi i have done a few cycles and in fact i'm wrapping one up now. Those OTC are not worth the money and risk even though some people swear by them for "weaker" cycles but I would strongly recommend against it. I would also advise you to take something for blood pressure as well whether it be hawthorne berry , coq10 , potassium , or any combo of those. Good luck and feel free to ask if you have any additional inquiries. Warbird has outlined a good pct for you.