Okay sounds good thank you. Do you have you're complete stack on the thread? It's my first time so I don't mind low dosages right now
Yes, sir. The complete stack is there. It started out rather weak because it was also my very first cycle and the dosages on some company's packages are so low compared to what has actually been studied/what works.
I used a full cycle support protocol with my run. These may not be hard on the liver due to the lack of the 17a-methylation, but I will tell you that I feel like **** if I skip my protocol, plus more than one local brother recommended it. I would recommend using an all-inclusive product from a reputable brand and just fill in the gaps with any individual ones you may want. My on-cycle was a little pricey as I purchased the compounds individually.
For PCT, I would skip OTC stuff and just find yourself some Clomid and Nolva online. You don't want to trust your ongoing T levels (sex drive, energy, etc) to anything that's not well-proven by the community. There are details about PCT with this combo in the thread, in addition to my dosing. Like I say, pay attention to how it increases - I would recommend starting higher. If I could do it again, I would start right off at 150/150 for like five days just to get used to it (I had trouble sleeping and decent amphetamine-esque rushes of euphoria for the first few days which would have been a pain in the ass if they were any more intense, but this subsided after a few days). Then I would go straight to 300/450 for the dosing. On equal dosing between 4- and epi- I did notice some water retention, but I've dried out pretty quickly since I ran the epi up to 450mg/day.
Lastly, that dry bit reminds me: DEFINITELY at least take a good fish oil supplement on this cycle. I do notice joint pain if I miss a couple of those. Lastly, aromatase isn't much of an issue, but I recommend to keep a little a-dex (arimidex/arimistane) on hand in case you notice gyno. I got symptoms of it early on and its best to nip it in the ass. I was able to use one dose while my body got used to the compounds and then I didn't need it any more. Anything else I have for this cycle would already be in the thread. I wish you good gains, brother. Since your cycle is similar, feel free to jump in on the thread. The guys commenting on mine are very experienced with the Andros. I'll also be updating it as I wrap up this cycle and move into my PCT and beginning of my MK-677 run.
It won't let me link because I don't have 100 posts, but if you cut off the address for this post after /steroids/ and replace the remainder with 275603-first-ph-cycle.html it will take you to my thread. Cheers!
