My situation: Please Help

Crimson_Soul

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I have been on Hormone Replacement Therapy with Test injections since my early teens due to hypogonadism, and have just ended a 4-week cycle of M14ADD with a Transdermal 1-Test. I have gained more excess than I would have liked, and need a little help on cutting. You see, as I am on Hormone Rep. Therapy I do not need to do a PCT, so I can jump into leaning out right away and continue with normal HRT protocol injections.

Today is day #2 off of my cycle, and I have a question regarding VPX ClenbutrX and MDHT. The question is, can I combine the two to aid in fat loss along with Designer Supplement's Lean Extreme and GXR? Does MDHT have anti-catabolic traits?

Also, I need a critique of my cutting plan. I plan on using a DFHT split, training as follows:

Monday: Upper 1 + 30mins Low Intensity Cardio PW
Tuesday: Lower 1
Wednesday: AM 60 Minutes Low Intensity Cardio
Thursday: Upper 2 + 30mins Low Intensity Cardio PW
Friday: Lower 2

Stats: 5'11" 170lbs (I know, but i've come a long way)

Skinfold Comp:
Abdomen: 9mm :rant:
BF: ~13%

Diet: ~2000 Calories w/Clenbutrx + MDHT pre-wkout

The Goal: I would like to achieve a body fat of ~7-8%, maintain muscle mass, and prepare for my next cycle, as well as hopefully increase strength slightly. Looks like i'll have my work laid out for me. :whip:

My Next Cycle (6 weeks from now):

Weeks 1-4: 30mg Superdrol
Weeks 1-4: 150mg M14ADD
Weeks 1-6: 1-Test
Weeks 1-6: VPX EQ (1,4AD)
Weeks 4-6: 50mg MDHT Pre-Workout
(Look OK?)

I think that's it... help me out a bit.. :think:
 
Just curious, but what was your testosterone level before you started HRT? And how did you manage to get injectables?

I ask because mine came back at 127 ng/dl recently at my normal yearly blood test and my doc said he would only prescribe me transdermal test, not injectable which I'd rather have. So, I'm going to a endocrinologist w/ the hopes that he will prescribe test cyp.
 
jmh80 said:
Just curious, but what was your testosterone level before you started HRT? And how did you manage to get injectables?

I ask because mine came back at 127 ng/dl recently at my normal yearly blood test and my doc said he would only prescribe me transdermal test, not injectable which I'd rather have. So, I'm going to a endocrinologist w/ the hopes that he will prescribe test cyp.
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I started out with transdermal as well, but I asked my primary doctor specifically for Injectibles, he then referred me to an endo, then the endocrinologist gave me the self-monitored injections.

my level before the injections came out to 32ng/dl, so they were pretty damn low.

An endocrinologist is the way to go BTW.

Good luck and I hope you get the injections, as they will raise your levels to ~800-1200ng/dl, which is where mine sits now.
 
yeah, exactly.

My reasoning behind wanting the injections was the overall cost. You see, at first, I was on AndroGel, but that was only partially covered by insurance, and I still had to pay ~$150.00 per month on the stuff. With the Test Cyp. Injections, a whole 20ml vial only cost ~$40.00, which is enough to last 40 weeks dosed at 100mg/week or .5ml of the solution.

As far as overall cost and long term usage, not to mention bioavailability, injections are the way to go IMO..
 
It still costs you about 100$ for a 10ml bottle of Depo at the pharmacy, parenteral HRT is often not covered by insurance. Plus it's in short supply, UpJohn is up to something like a sell out or take over of the injectable market. Something weird is going on, so trans is a more reliable source as most docs see it. Also, they don't have to worry about you taking orals or shooting it that way. It's convension to Rx the trans these days.

I'd suggest Sldg's 7-OH (lean xtreme) for an anti-cort. 5AD and M4AD work well too, the MDHT has dissapointing anti-cort properties.
 
here is my dosing regimen for the Lean Xtreme and GXR. This look good?

Lean Xtreme: 2 Capsules upon awakening, 1 Capsule 4hrs later, 1 Capsule before bed.

GlucophaseXR: 1 Capsule upon awakening w/40g Casein (before cardio), 2 Capsules with PW shake, 1 Capsule before bed.
 
g4ud1n said:
I think he is wanting to use the MDHT to spare muscle.
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Yeah, that's what he has on hand I guess, but I don't know of an effective dose.

Crimson_Soul,
How much cyp are you using for the HRT? If you take 200mg/wk, then 75mg MDHT/d. If 200mg/EOW, then 100mg MDHT/d. The anti-catabolic properties of MDHT would only be reliable at these high doses I suspect, or even higher. Maybe someone else who has used this combo can supply more specific info.
 
Crimson_Soul said:
I started out with transdermal as well, but I asked my primary doctor specifically for Injectibles, he then referred me to an endo, then the endocrinologist gave me the self-monitored injections.

my level before the injections came out to 32ng/dl, so they were pretty damn low.

An endocrinologist is the way to go BTW.

Good luck and I hope you get the injections, as they will raise your levels to ~800-1200ng/dl, which is where mine sits now.
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800-1200 :cheers:
 
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