I don't really know enough about TRN to speak on it but thunder loves the sht. I'd ask his ass... But phera if you don't have it already won't be around for to much long so get some while you can. If your looking for a good place to score some DA is the hookup IMO..:thumbsup:
Have you run Epi before?
Alright, alright, alright...what about a 3 weeker of hdrol/mdrol? Like so:
Hdrol 75mg e/d (weeks 1-3)
Mdrol 10mg e/d (weeks 2-3)
MMV2 3 caps on w/o days, preworkout
I actually intended on taking the rest of the year off, since I'm finishing my 3rd cycle of the year already. But I have half a pct's worth of nolva left, and some leftover MMV2...so what am I going to do with it if I don't run another???
I actually might just run a 2 weeker of mdrol, like you suggested BS. It's the least expensive and most effective option, I think. I'll just have to suck up some sides, but at 10mg, they might not even be too bad.
Running HDrol for 3 weeks only @75 is useless IMO... Even with the bridge.
Yeah, I know it takes longer to kick in. I was just thinking if you started it at 75mg and you had the mdrol along with it. Might actually work a bit better if you started with the stack and left the solo week for the end. Still, I've never really started to enjoy halo until week 3. It'd be a tease.
I'm leaning more and more toward a 2 week mdrol run. We'll see what else crosses my mind.
Yeah, I know it takes longer to kick in. I was just thinking if you started it at 75mg and you had the mdrol along with it. Might actually work a bit better if you started with the stack and left the solo week for the end. Still, I've never really started to enjoy halo until week 3. It'd be a tease.
I'm leaning more and more toward a 2 week mdrol run. We'll see what else crosses my mind.
TWO WEEKS OF M-DROL!!!!!!!!! You know you want to, I know you want to, the whole fcuking CREW knows you want to so..........:head:
And just for the record I have personally been eating upwards of 600grams of carbs ed and little to zero fat gain to report...
Why not run Hdrol for 5 weeks and Mdrol for the first two to kick in the hdrol... You'd have gains the whole time...
I don't speak from experience though...
Were your carbs low in the beginning, BS? I've been doing a lot of reading and it seems mdrol requires you to stay pretty high in carbs, otherwise you go hypo and feel shty.
Nah they we're even higher than they are now at 600gms. I was taking in around 700-900gms ed from any and everything I could get my hands on. I have noticed if I don't eat every 2-3 hours on the dot I start going hypo. Like at work, I burn cals anyways so the M-drol just sucks the life outta me. The Hypo is the worst side right now for sure.
Not a bad idea, either, let me tell ya. That's a long cycle, though. I really wanted no more than a 3 weeker for my next (and last of the year).
Fvck it, I have enough mdrol to do a phera/mdrol 5 weeker.. 3 of phera 2 of super... whooowee.... don't know if I want to put my body through that one though... Fvck it! DOOM CREW!!!
I don't know if I'd recommend it, bro. That'd be a lot of strain on your body for a long cycle.
And how do carbs affect you normally?
Eh, I know... I'm just amping on this epistane about to go to the gym... all sorts of weird ideas are going through my head... like how to break **** once I get to the gym... :head:
Been there!!!!!I hear ya. I'm actually considering staying on another 2 weeks. I feel great and the results are really starting to show nicely. Matter of fact, think I'll get a bf% and some measurements tomorrow, just to see what's up.
Could also just hit those two weeks of mdrol now. Of course, then I'd need to change my diet, huh? I can't stay low-carb without feeling like total ass?
Been there!!!!!
Yeah, me too. And I've given in every time, which leads me to believe I will again.
If I extend, I'll run:
Furazadrol 200mg
Winztrol 300mg
11oxo 300mg
And drop the MMV2 back down to 4, which would hold me for the extra 2 weeks.
I'm tempted to just do the mdrol now, but I really do think it'll be more beneficial if were to run it as a separate cycle. If only I''d have thought of it first, I would've started w/ that and bridged into what I've run the past 3 weeks...but I guess hindsight is 20/20.
Run the m-drol next time bro. You'd have to totally change your diet and maybe even training on that sht IMO. Finish this up, take your break and hit the m-drol this fall. The good thing about keeping it at two weeks is 2 on 3 pct= 4-5 weeks of wait time till I can run some Heavy sht:thumbsup: as opposed to the normal 8 weeks....:head:
Scratch that. You had a REALLY FCUKIN' rough start brother. I just re-read your whole log, and I'm seriously having second thoughts.
Back to thinking about a TRN stack. 4.5mg methoxy TRN w/ 10mg PPlex for 3 weeks while staying low carb...if I do that maybe I can increase strength, pack on a few more lb of muscle and continue to sharpen up? That's kinda like TG's, only minus the epi and the methoxy TST he took on workout days (oh yeah...I'm gonna have enough left over to run 3 caps a day of MMV2 on workout days for 3 weeks of whatever I end up running, but not sure if I want to stack that w/ TRN, both being progestins and all).
Or am I off base and the pp is gonna start rounding out my muscles regardless what I stack with? I'd hate to undo the work I've done (and money I've spent) on this cut.
Maybe 4.5/4.5/6 of TRN w/ 200mg winztrol for the full three weeks and just keep cutting.:think:I don't really want to gain very much more weight. 195-205 is a good range for me (wonder what it'll be when I weigh in next week).
with T prop & Equipoise for 4 wks, the Equip/ I would run for an additional 3 wks taper on wk 8 and PCT out..........
What'chu talkin' 'bout Willis??
I am talking about STOP fvcking with the BULLSH!T and run some fvcking GEAR!! LMAO
I've run real gear, home skillet! I told you my first cycle ever was sustanon. I didn't know any better back then, so by week 6 I was pinning it every other day...gained like 35lb in 2 months (not counting the weight I gained while on my androstene pct:frustrate:...oh well, I survived).
Well run dat sh!t again.....lol
and pin it ED!! FVCK IT!!!!!! 35 is chicken weight your ass will be at 75 lbs in 8 wks.....LMFAO
Fokk yeah TG2!! These are the type of workout reports that I like to see. Ones with clear, concise information that shows significant improvement!! Right the fukk on dude!!:head: Keep this sh*t up bro. Looking forward to that 2 week extension on this beeyatch!! Blast dis sh*t for the DOOM CREW!! :numbered:Workouts, workouts. Rockin' the muthafcukin' hizzy, boys.
SHOULDERS (last night)
Lateral raises 2 x 15 @ 15lb (warmups)
Behind the neck BB press 3 x 8 @ 155lb (PR!)
DB Curls
6 @ 50lb (prev best was 4)
10 @ 40lb (prev best was 6!)
6, 4, 4, 4 @ 40lb, 35lb, 30lb, 25lb and finish w/ BB partials @ 95lb
Did I happen to say...
DOOM CREW!!!!
I've just had the shortest yet most intense chest workout I've had in recent memory. Friggin' INTENSE!!!!:aargh:
Some of you may have noticed I like using intensity techniques a lot, and sometimes combining them. Well, I fcukin' killed it this time. I started w/ flat chest excercises and did an iso/compound superset where I employed a drop set on the compound portion. KILLER. I followed that w/ iso/compound on incline and decline, then a drop on pec deck flye, and believe it or not, I was wiped out in 20 minutes.
Flye/DB Bench supers x2
-Flyes 8 @ 35lb
-DB Bench 8, 8, 8 @ 80lb, 70lb, 60lb
Incline Flye/Incline DB Bench supers x2
-Incline Flyes 8 @ 30lb
-Incline DB Bench 8 @ 60lb
Decline Flye/Decline DB Bench supers x2
-Decline lyes 8 @ 30lb
-Decline DB Bench 8 @ 60lb
Pec-deck flyes (DROPS)
20 @ 100lb
15 @ 80lb
12 @ 60lb
Good WO........!
Man, I would love to tire my ass out in 20 minutes... I'd have more time to scheme on the fat chicks.
Alright, as promised, here's a little mid-cycle progress report, taken from Monday (exactly 3 weeks in).
Starting weight: 199lb
Current weight: 198lb
Starting bf%: 16.4%
Current bf%: 14.7%
That means I've only lost 1lb while dropping 2% bf...which means I've been putting on some nice muscle, too!
Here are my starting stats and measurements vs. my current:
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 201lb
Neck: 16.5" / Current: 17"
Chest: 45.75" / 46.25"
Shoulders: 51.5" / 52"
Biceps (unflexed): 14.25" / 15" (can that be for real??)
Biceps (flexed): 16.5" / 17.5" (again...??)
Forearm: 12.5" / 12.5"
Waist: 37" / 36"
Hip: 38.5" / 37"!!!
Thigh: 22.25" / 22.5"
Calf: 15" / 15"
Alright, as promised, here's a little mid-cycle progress report, taken from Monday (exactly 3 weeks in).
Starting weight: 199lb
Current weight: 198lb
Starting bf%: 16.4%
Current bf%: 14.7%
That means I've only lost 1lb while dropping 2% bf...which means I've been putting on some nice muscle, too!
Here are my starting stats and measurements vs. my current:
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 201lb
Neck: 16.5" / Current: 17"
Chest: 45.75" / 46.25"
Shoulders: 51.5" / 52"
Biceps (unflexed): 14.25" / 15" (can that be for real??)
Biceps (flexed): 16.5" / 17.5" (again...??)
Forearm: 12.5" / 12.5"
Waist: 37" / 36"
Hip: 38.5" / 37"!!!
Thigh: 22.25" / 22.5"
Calf: 15" / 15"
Nice work homie... Biceps lookin like you be STEP INTO A SLIM JIM... OOOOOOOHH YEAH!!!
Dude get your beef jerky slogans right. SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!!!
Nice measurements TG2... Jealous of the arm gains. You and I both have to figure out wtf to do with our calves. lol.
Synthol??:think: lol...
Not a huge fan of that idea, broski. If it don't make me lift more, I see no use for taking it.
Tell that to my 14inch wide wiener lol....
Touche.......
Massengill..........Douche
Yo, and through a nice mistake, it turns out I now have more products than I needed to finish the last 2 weeks of this cycle. Soooo, I've decided to raise the dosage again. New dosages are:
11oxo 550mg e/d
Furazadrol 300mg e/d
Winztrol 400mg e/d (until the last 5 days, where I'll bump up to 450mg...FCUK YEAH!)
And it looks like I just have enough MMV2 to stay at 5 caps pre-workout except for next week, where I'll run the 6 a day experiment!