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My SD cycle..looking for suggestions/opinions/feedback

I was very impressed with your log and I serious think that it helped me to decided to give SD a try. You've made some serious gains in a month. Thanks for your help!
 
Thanks man! You did the right thing in researching before. I could only hope that this log helps others the way it has helped you. Good luck on your cycle bro. I'm sure you'll blow up.
 
Well, I ordered my SD and I'm going to start it March 1. I keep hearing that I should take Nolvadex. Were the hell can I find it? My PCT has everything that is recommend, but the Nolvadex. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
 
So what did you take with the SD, pertaining to the PCT sups. I've seen people take the PCT stuff along with SD, minus the Nolvadex and Rebound. Any suggestions?
 
IBE nutrition. I'm currently using their Nolva & my lab rat hasn't had any complaints. Search the log...it says what I took while ON in the first page. Only ancillary supps should be taken.
 
I have a quick question for you.. I will be starting my second week of SD tomorrow..And I will be going up to 20mg.. thats two pills. I have read, and actually talked to a few people who are taking SD, and I get two different answers, so I am asking what you do.. When you go to Two pills a day, do you take them both at once, or take them seperatly during the day.. How far apart are you taking them if you do seperate them ???
Thanks...
 
You can do either, but it's best if you spread them out throughout the day. I believe the half life for SD is 12 hours? I may be wrong. I usually just took 10mgs upon waking & the other 10mgs before I hit the gym (around 8pm). If I was you, I'd spread it throughout the day, specially if you go up to 30mg. IMO taking it all at once is a waste.
 
I will take one in the morng and in the evening... Gotta dumb question...I have read several post on here and they talk about half life.. What is the half life ?? Just curious...
I will not be going to 30mg, I will only be running a small cycle of 10/20 /20


Thanks for the info, and the help..
 
yeah you continue the ancillary supps while on cycle. you dont really sound like your ready to take Sd if you asked that question. i've seen you posting in numerous threads asking the same questions. if i were you i would wait, especially if you don't have nolva JMO.
 
Thanks joey for answering that. joez if you don't already know the answer to that question, you're in for a serious cycle. You should have known the answer to that just by reading my log or searching. I don't think you're ready either. HOLD OFF.

Stinger, good question. The half-life of a compound is the time required for half the quantity for that drug or other substance deposited in a living organism to be metabolized or eliminated by normal biological processes. In plain English, how long it'll take your body to break down half the SD & consume or waste it. The reason this is important is because you want to keep the amount of SD in your body "replenished", so it's best to dose at half-lifes IMO. Hope that helps.
 
xxtruxx1 said:
You can do either, but it's best if you spread them out throughout the day. I believe the half life for SD is 12 hours? I may be wrong. I usually just took 10mgs upon waking & the other 10mgs before I hit the gym (around 8pm). If I was you, I'd spread it throughout the day, specially if you go up to 30mg. IMO taking it all at once is a waste.
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Big Question: Shoud you take SD with Grapefruit Juice? I see a lot of people doing it and some say it's not the way to go. Any suggestions? Currently 7 days into my SD. Thanks to your inspiring photos!:clap2:
 
BigBoy12 said:
Big Question: Shoud you take SD with Grapefruit Juice? I see a lot of people doing it and some say it's not the way to go. Any suggestions? Currently 7 days into my SD. Thanks to your inspiring photos!:clap2:
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Honestly, I wouldn't. There's really no need to, as Superdrol is a methylated compound making it survive first pass through the liver already. I believe the point of grapefruit juice is to maximize absorption of non-methylated compounds by getting them into the lymphatic system which later gets returned to the blood. I may be wrong in what I just said, but im positive that grapefruit juice is not needed with SD due to it being a methylated compound. You could do it if you wanted to, but I don't really see the point behind it when considering SD.

On another note, I'm glad my pics inspired you. Diet right, get your workout down and you'll blow up. Hope you found the log helpful, bro. Good luck on your cycle.
 
xxtruxx1 said:
Honestly, I wouldn't. There's really no need to, as Superdrol is a methylated compound making it survive first pass through the liver already. I believe the point of grapefruit juice is to maximize absorption of non-methylated compounds by getting them into the lymphatic system which later gets returned to the blood. I may be wrong in what I just said, but im positive that grapefruit juice is not needed with SD due to it being a methylated compound. You could do it if you wanted to, but I don't really see the point behind it when considering SD.

On another note, I'm glad my pics inspired you. Diet right, get your workout down and you'll blow up. Hope you found the log helpful, bro. Good luck on your cycle.
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Can't remember reading this in your log... did you take on an empty stomach, or with food?
 
BigBoy12 said:
Can't remember reading this in your log... did you take on an empty stomach, or with food?
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Mix of both. I found either way to be fine. In the mornings I took it with breakfast & in the afternoons I took it on an empty stomach with some NO-Xplode 45 minutes before my workout. Either is fine though.
 
SD is supposed to be taken with a meal containg at least 10 grams of fat. talk to c-los he works for anablic xtreme.
 
joeymutz said:
SD is supposed to be taken with a meal containg at least 10 grams of fat. talk to c-los he works for anablic xtreme.
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I thought that was RXT that was taken with fat?? I've never read anything about taken SD with Fat...Can someone clarify this?

xxtruxx1, do you still have the gains from your first SD experience?
 
joeymutz said:
SD is supposed to be taken with a meal containg at least 10 grams of fat. talk to c-los he works for anablic xtreme.
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Actually joey, that's Rebound XT. The reason of taking it with 10g of fat is to get it into your lymphatic system so it is better absorbed by the blood. You don't need to do this with SD because it is methylated & survives first pass through the liver. It can be taken without a "transport."

As far as keeping my gains from first cycle...yup, they're still very much there. I did kind of "unswell" a little, but strength & overall size wise, I'm still the same. People are still asking me if I hopped on "the sauce" & bs like that. I got a little fatter around my waist though, nothing crazy, just lost a little definition because I stopped cardio & abs (didn't have time since softball intramurals started). I'm planning another cycle soon. I loved SD man, and if you do it right I'm sure you will too. The results are simply incredible.
 
X,
Where did you learn all this?
 
BigBoy12 said:
X,
Where did you learn all this?
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Read brah, everything he has said is on this website, as long as you look hard enough..And I Joey is right, I have seen C-Los sayin to take PP and SD with fish oils as well..
 
You should take a ton of Omega 3s. I started a PPlex cylce 30 days ago only to switch to SD on day 10. Androgenic sides were evident on the PPlex; massive acne, bloating. I gained 14lbs in 10 days eating super-clean.

SD is am amazing compound. 95% of the gains seen with M1T with no discernable sides. Certainly my lipids are taking a whack, but I feel great on day 18 since running the SD. Started at 222 -- 247 on day 28 of cycle.

I wouldn't take a methyl w/o the redox couple of RLA, which is RLA and DHLA; as well as Co-Q10 and a molecularly-distilled fish oil:

Geronova Mito Gold -- DHLA, RLA and Delta Tocotrienol: Invalid Link Removed

Nordic Naturals Pro Omega -- molecularly-distilled EPA/DHA: Invalid Link Removed

Olympian Labs 300mg Co-Q10: Invalid Link Removed

Also I would include the ALCAR/carnitine orotate mix into any anarchy stack: Invalid Link Removed
 
Then if the sides are discernable then why do pct? my anwser " there differently are sides but there mild sides. In my stack i take alcar -3 grams, ala, creatine, hawthorn berry, milk thistle, red rice yeast, coq12,pro-plus(penis enlargement pills for libido)-just to assist with the superdol.

also im eating 5-6 x's daily, healthy protein carbs and fats. i think im goign to bump my efa's since i heard it from you> thanks for the heads up:jaw:
also my last superdrol cycle i did in 3 weeks. this time i think im going to push the envelope and do a 4 weeker=0) . does anyone think that will affect my health, shorterm or longterm? please speak up if you do i need all the assistance i can get.


riskarb said:
You should take a ton of Omega 3s. I started a PPlex cylce 30 days ago only to switch to SD on day 10. Androgenic sides were evident on the PPlex; massive acne, bloating. I gained 14lbs in 10 days eating super-clean.

SD is am amazing compound. 95% of the gains seen with M1T with no discernable sides. Certainly my lipids are taking a whack, but I feel great on day 18 since running the SD. Started at 222 -- 247 on day 28 of cycle.

I wouldn't take a methyl w/o the redox couple of RLA, which is RLA and DHLA; as well as Co-Q10 and a molecularly-distilled fish oil:

Geronova Mito Gold -- DHLA, RLA and Delta Tocotrienol: Invalid Link Removed

Nordic Naturals Pro Omega -- molecularly-distilled EPA/DHA: Invalid Link Removed

Olympian Labs 300mg Co-Q10: Invalid Link Removed

Also I would include the ALCAR/carnitine orotate mix into any anarchy stack: Invalid Link Removed
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Definition of discernable: perceptible by the senses. I think 4 weeks is fine for most with proper supplementation.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
Read brah, everything he has said is on this website, as long as you look hard enough..And I Joey is right, I have seen C-Los sayin to take PP and SD with fish oils as well..
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i thought i was right. I was looking for the post that c-los posted to back my statemnet up but i couldnt find it. XXtruXX you are right about the rebound XT though but it should be the same for the SD.
 
how much Saw Pal should I take?
 
joeymutz said:
i thought i was right. I was looking for the post that c-los posted to back my statemnet up but i couldnt find it. XXtruXX you are right about the rebound XT though but it should be the same for the SD.
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Methylation is what makes 17aa AAS bioavailable. It allows for multiple passes through the liver before it is metabolized. If the chemical is lipophilic then yes dosing with fat could possibly increase the amount absorbed by avoiding first pass liver metabolism via the lymphatic system. If the chemical is not lipophilic the point is moot.

I believe the point of grapefruit juice is to maximize absorption of non-methylated compounds by getting them into the lymphatic system which later gets returned to the blood.
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No, the purpose for the grapefruit juice is enhance absorption of chemicals with low oral bioavailability by inhibiting an enzyme in the intestine that would normally start the metabolism process.
 
BigBoy12 said:
X,
Where did you learn all this?
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Well, I am pretty much pre-med, so a lot of this coincides with what I study. Besides that, just research. I wouldn't put anything into my body without researching it first. Just MHO.
 
Anyone every have a little shrinkage after they completed the SD cycle (2 days on PCT). Also, didn't have any back pumps during, but now there a *****! Anyone every have this?
 
BigBoy12 said:
Anyone every have a little shrinkage after they completed the SD cycle (2 days on PCT). Also, didn't have any back pumps during, but now there a *****! Anyone every have this?
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My boys didn't shrink, but they definitely got sucked up into my body more. They dropped again during PCT. The back pumps weren't too bad for me while on or off. Just up the Taurine & eat a banana or two.
 
xxtruxx1 said:
My boys didn't shrink, but they definitely got sucked up into my body more. They dropped again during PCT. The back pumps weren't too bad for me while on or off. Just up the Taurine & eat a banana or two.
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sounds like they shrunk to me... so what did u end up doing with your cycle? did u go for the pull up J or he cross over fake?
 
phasar said:
sounds like they shrunk to me... so what did u end up doing with your cycle? did u go for the pull up J or he cross over fake?
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I think of shrinkage as my boys getting smaller. My body just sucked them up closer around week 3, kind of like before you bust a nut. They dropped again as soon as I start PCT. They actually seem bigger after cycle.

Brah, you lost me on the basketball talk, but if you're asking me if I decided to run the cycle I was inquiring about...yup! I'm on a 6 weeker of PP/SD/Zol with Lipoderm Ultra/Cap-hp/Lipo Ultra+Clenbuterol. I'm logging it...check it out.
 
That's it.. they're closer to my body...only 3 days into my PCT. When did you notice a difference during PCT.
 
xxtruxx1 said:
About end of week 1. Depends what you're running on PCT though.
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Rebound Xt
Fenugreek
Retain
GHT Stack by Sci-Fit
* and all the typical herb sups
 
Should take about a week or so. I ran a similar PCT. If you don't notice a drop, check out IBE labs & pick up some nolva. Couldn't hurt.
 
im into week 4 . i want to run it another week,for 5 weeks. who thinks it will be safe? honest feedback please

Dr. D what do you think?

im taking these supplements
milk thistle, coq12, red yeast rice,alcar,taurine, hawthorn berry also of course a multi, vit c, penis pills(for libido),
 
Honestly, my gains tapered off after about week 3/early week 4. I don't think you'll really see much of a difference in week 5 unless you up the dosage, which I don't recommend if you're already at 30mg. I'd say do your week 4, save the rest of the sd for a future cycle. No use wasting it now.
 
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