kincaiddave
Member
I've got to agree with Phil. Are you sure your doc is the only one that can write you a script? There has to be someone else.
My Road To Being Me Again
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SoMdHunter
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Well, the military has a way of complicating everything. I have to get my Uro to order the blood work, but the referral to him has expired now. The plan now is I 'm going to call my Uro and have him fax my military treatment facility and ask for a new referral. Once he receives that, he can do the blood work in his office and the insurance will cover it.
That is the best I can do for now. The military won't do the blood work since I am not directly under their care for HRT. And since I'm under the care of my Uro, I can't ask for the referral myself. Do I hear Catch-22? Whole process will take a couple of weeks, even with the Holidays.
In the mean time, I'll stay with the current protocol of weekly injections. At least my test levels will be stable.
That is the best I can do for now. The military won't do the blood work since I am not directly under their care for HRT. And since I'm under the care of my Uro, I can't ask for the referral myself. Do I hear Catch-22? Whole process will take a couple of weeks, even with the Holidays.
In the mean time, I'll stay with the current protocol of weekly injections. At least my test levels will be stable.
SoMdHunter
Member
Just a note to this thread.
Attempted another session with the wife today. Couldn't maintain or finish! This is really starting to piss me off! Some Christmas gift. I had planned on really having a great time today.
Attempted another session with the wife today. Couldn't maintain or finish! This is really starting to piss me off! Some Christmas gift. I had planned on really having a great time today.
pmgamer18
Well-known member
I think if you got some Indolplex/DIM in 4 to 7 days you would do much better but then I think I told you this before.SoMdHunter said:
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If your Estradiol is high taking Viagra will not help it kills your sex life gives you bad ED and trouble reaching an orgasm.
Are you doing anything for Estradiol.
Phil
SoMdHunter
Member
pmgamer18 said:
Yeppers, got some on order now. I have noticed I feel much better and perform better a couple of days after my injection. I'm now due in 2 days, so I'm thinking E2 is in fact causing the problem, as well as dropping test levels. I've been thinking about twice weekly injections at 1/2 dosage like you, just to see how it goes.
I thank ya kindly pmgamer.
SoMdHunter
Member
pmgamer18 said:
Will do. Just gotta wait for the next payday to come around, I ran out pay from the last one. I still got lots of days, just no pay!
SoMdHunter
Member
Just an update on my log. Completed my weekly injection on schedule. Everything remains about the same. Libido has increased, so has performance, but not like it should. Gonna try the DIM and see what happens.
On a side note, I HAVE noticed strength has increased in the gym. Not significantly, but certainly noticeable.
On a side note, I HAVE noticed strength has increased in the gym. Not significantly, but certainly noticeable.
SoMdHunter
Member
pmgamer18 said:
Thanks for the encouragement Phil. I really appreciate it. The progress is slow and steady, that is for sure.
SoMdHunter
Member
Injection again tonight. Smooth as silk. I really have no recourse but to stay on this therapy until I can get to my Urologist. I figure I'm pretty much shutdown now anyway.
Speaking of my GP Dr. he is finally back in town, so now I'm going to attempt to get my blood work done to see what is going on.
Sex is still pretty much a failure, and no morning wood. However, on a good note, I am much better than where I was before I started TRT. At least I'm interested in sex again, and I can manage an erection, although it isn't long lasting.
Next payday I'm going to order the DIM and TMG as suggested and see what happens, unless I can get the bloodwork done.
Speaking of my GP Dr. he is finally back in town, so now I'm going to attempt to get my blood work done to see what is going on.
Sex is still pretty much a failure, and no morning wood. However, on a good note, I am much better than where I was before I started TRT. At least I'm interested in sex again, and I can manage an erection, although it isn't long lasting.
Next payday I'm going to order the DIM and TMG as suggested and see what happens, unless I can get the bloodwork done.
SoMdHunter
Member
A pleasant surprise last night. I rolled over to get more comfortable to find an erection you could have bronzed! Unfortunately it didn't show itself this morning when I woke up......go figure. 
SoMdHunter
Member
Anyone have any idea how much my test levels would typically increase at 100mg Test C each week that I am on? In theory, would it add an extra 400ng of total, or 500 etc? I'm just curious.
I need to get this HRT thing figured out.....sex was yet another failure again yesterday. I am truely blessed to have such a patient and loving wife to put up with this kind of crap. She deserves better.
I need to get this HRT thing figured out.....sex was yet another failure again yesterday. I am truely blessed to have such a patient and loving wife to put up with this kind of crap. She deserves better.
Slyder1
New member
I was there too bro (except for the ED)
So MD Hunter,
I am only telling you this, because the group below helps exactly what you are talking about and I personally have found success and its MD administered and safe. I am not advertising, but I am a true believer, as I am an entrepreneur, that when a business does me good, others will know about it.
12 Months ago, I was overweight, low libido, sagging muscles, no energy and no drive to even want to get energy. I was a bit depressed also. It was then I read an article in GQ Magazine on Cenegenics. Here is the article; Invalid Link Removed
Cenegenics, and particularly my doc, Rusty Silverman of The Silverman System Age Management Medicine in Margate NJ have been an amazing asset to my life. I am not a body builder, nor do I want to be, I am a big guy, work out hard and look good. I am 285lbs, 6'4" and under 20% bfi. Do I want to get more lean, yes, but not much bigger. Well this is how I have always felt, and not until I started the program did I actually see measurable results. I am 39 years old and feel better and look better than I ever have. I grow in the gym like a weed and have as much energy as I want to have. My mind is quick and I am always ready for sex.
I also cannot confirm this, but prior to this program, my wife and I had been trying to get pregnant for 5 years to no avail. Well, 15 weeks ago we found out we were pregnant. Say what you want, but I cant help but think this program may have had something to do with it.
The program is fairly simple, 1 shot of HGH daily from my click pen in the stomach. Not painful at all. 2 times a week I take HCG and take DHEA, Folic and Melatonin daily. That's it. My blood is tested every 3 months and the amounts are adjusted accordingly. My levels are all at where I was in my 20's. In fact, I am so into the program, I was interviewed and was the feature in an article about my experience and why I would do something like this. I can post it of you want.
So I would say, at the very least, either call Dr. Silverman or Cenegenics and go for the free analysis, I think its free, I cant really remember, but It really is worth it. At that point you can make up your mind if it is something you want to do. The program costs me on average in the $750 a month or so, but hey, I am sure you are worth a car payment a month.
And one last thing, prior to this program, I had never given myself a shot and have never been on steroids, and am not now. I am thinking about fat cutters though, but probably wont have the balls to actually do it. But thats me.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
All the best,
Slyder1.
So MD Hunter,
I am only telling you this, because the group below helps exactly what you are talking about and I personally have found success and its MD administered and safe. I am not advertising, but I am a true believer, as I am an entrepreneur, that when a business does me good, others will know about it.
12 Months ago, I was overweight, low libido, sagging muscles, no energy and no drive to even want to get energy. I was a bit depressed also. It was then I read an article in GQ Magazine on Cenegenics. Here is the article; Invalid Link Removed
Cenegenics, and particularly my doc, Rusty Silverman of The Silverman System Age Management Medicine in Margate NJ have been an amazing asset to my life. I am not a body builder, nor do I want to be, I am a big guy, work out hard and look good. I am 285lbs, 6'4" and under 20% bfi. Do I want to get more lean, yes, but not much bigger. Well this is how I have always felt, and not until I started the program did I actually see measurable results. I am 39 years old and feel better and look better than I ever have. I grow in the gym like a weed and have as much energy as I want to have. My mind is quick and I am always ready for sex.
I also cannot confirm this, but prior to this program, my wife and I had been trying to get pregnant for 5 years to no avail. Well, 15 weeks ago we found out we were pregnant. Say what you want, but I cant help but think this program may have had something to do with it.
The program is fairly simple, 1 shot of HGH daily from my click pen in the stomach. Not painful at all. 2 times a week I take HCG and take DHEA, Folic and Melatonin daily. That's it. My blood is tested every 3 months and the amounts are adjusted accordingly. My levels are all at where I was in my 20's. In fact, I am so into the program, I was interviewed and was the feature in an article about my experience and why I would do something like this. I can post it of you want.
So I would say, at the very least, either call Dr. Silverman or Cenegenics and go for the free analysis, I think its free, I cant really remember, but It really is worth it. At that point you can make up your mind if it is something you want to do. The program costs me on average in the $750 a month or so, but hey, I am sure you are worth a car payment a month.
And one last thing, prior to this program, I had never given myself a shot and have never been on steroids, and am not now. I am thinking about fat cutters though, but probably wont have the balls to actually do it. But thats me.
I would love to hear your thoughts.
All the best,
Slyder1.
SoMdHunter
Member
I appreciate the information Slyder! I'll surely do some additional reading. Realizing that insuranc doesn't cover much, I've got a lot of bloodwork to get done before I finalze my therapy though. Thanks again.....very much appreciated!
SoMdHunter
Member
Injection went just fine today one day late (but what the hell). These are easier and easier now. I get the wife to do my glutes since I have a tough time reaching around.
ED still persists and libido isn't where it should be for someone on 100mg Test C per week. Kinda tough to explain. It as if I can be talked into sex, like. yeah, I could do that! But to be actually horny? Not yet. I'm going to try some DIM pmgamer recommended.
In the meantime, the paperwork is AFU between my PCP and my Urologist. This doesn't surprise me in the least. Why make anything easy, right? I need to get this straightened out so I can get my bloodwork done. So Tues, I will go see my PCP personally and take care of this mess.
The situation is starting to grow desperate. I'm sick and tired of this. On a good note, the test has me feeling good, much like my old self, except for the ED of course.
ED still persists and libido isn't where it should be for someone on 100mg Test C per week. Kinda tough to explain. It as if I can be talked into sex, like. yeah, I could do that! But to be actually horny? Not yet. I'm going to try some DIM pmgamer recommended.
In the meantime, the paperwork is AFU between my PCP and my Urologist. This doesn't surprise me in the least. Why make anything easy, right? I need to get this straightened out so I can get my bloodwork done. So Tues, I will go see my PCP personally and take care of this mess.
The situation is starting to grow desperate. I'm sick and tired of this. On a good note, the test has me feeling good, much like my old self, except for the ED of course.
Slyder1
New member
Jan,
The blood tests are very comprehensive and include every test imaginable including liver state. Depending on what you are prescribed, your test will vary. And by the way, they send the girl to my office to draw the blood, I don't have to visit the Docs office that often.
Regarding the levels, again, that is depending on your current state and your age and such. My levels are in the middle high which is optimal for the functions I mentioned prior. I hesitate to write numbers down as they are specific to the client.
I would suggest that you click on the link for the GQ article and read it, it is very informative.
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Best,
Slyder1
The blood tests are very comprehensive and include every test imaginable including liver state. Depending on what you are prescribed, your test will vary. And by the way, they send the girl to my office to draw the blood, I don't have to visit the Docs office that often.
Regarding the levels, again, that is depending on your current state and your age and such. My levels are in the middle high which is optimal for the functions I mentioned prior. I hesitate to write numbers down as they are specific to the client.
I would suggest that you click on the link for the GQ article and read it, it is very informative.
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Best,
Slyder1
SoMdHunter
Member
Since starting on HRT, I have noticed my joints are sore as hell when I'm done lifting. They seem to hurt almost all the time, even though I am on glucosamine. I've also noticed I feel "hot" all the time. ED is still persistent and no morning wood. Injections remain at 100mg Test C every week. I started on DIM once a day as I have a lot of symptoms of high E2 levels.
Unfortunately I cannot afford to see Dr. John just yet, so I'll have to deal with this for awhile. Next appointment I have with my Dr I'll request a host of blood tests for reference. This will be my first priority. Till then......I remain positive.
Unfortunately I cannot afford to see Dr. John just yet, so I'll have to deal with this for awhile. Next appointment I have with my Dr I'll request a host of blood tests for reference. This will be my first priority. Till then......I remain positive.
Slyder1
New member
Habe you tried "alternative" methods? Seriously, you might want to check out Raike Invalid Link Removed or Accupuncture, Invalid Link Removed. I have used it in the past, and my brother who was really messed up in the war swears by it for his physical ailments. I wish you the best.
Slyder1
New member
Have you tried "alternative" methods? Seriously, you might want to check out Raike Invalid Link Removed or Accupuncture, Invalid Link Removed. I have used it in the past, and my brother who was really messed up in the war swears by it for his physical ailments. I wish you the best.
SoMdHunter
Member
Slyder....I really do appreciate the advice. My insurance problem is conpounded by the fact that I am retired military. Everything I do, or desire to be seen for must go through my military physican first. Obviously it is much more complicated, but you get the jest of it.
A lot of really great people here (including yourself) have offered help, and I have it all listed. Once I can get the mountains of paperwork completed, and my PCP approval, I plan on addressing these issues with a qualified professional.
Thanks again.......SMH
A lot of really great people here (including yourself) have offered help, and I have it all listed. Once I can get the mountains of paperwork completed, and my PCP approval, I plan on addressing these issues with a qualified professional.
Thanks again.......SMH
RoadBlocK
Well-known member
HEY Slyder1
A little OT, sorry,
Slyder1,
I would really like to see a doctor truely knowledgable close to where I live, I have been googling for a half hour and I cant find your doc:
Rusty Silverman of The Silverman System Age Management Medicine in Margate NJ
Can you provide anymore info? Address, phone, etc?
(I dont think this is against the board rules, as I want to find a new doctor, if it is I apologize, mods please delete then)
Any help would be appreciated.
Or any other doctors in NJ in the trt/hrt field who really know what they are doing would also be great.
Thanks.
A little OT, sorry,
Slyder1,
I would really like to see a doctor truely knowledgable close to where I live, I have been googling for a half hour and I cant find your doc:
Rusty Silverman of The Silverman System Age Management Medicine in Margate NJ
Can you provide anymore info? Address, phone, etc?
(I dont think this is against the board rules, as I want to find a new doctor, if it is I apologize, mods please delete then)
Any help would be appreciated.
Or any other doctors in NJ in the trt/hrt field who really know what they are doing would also be great.
Thanks.
Slyder1
New member
Road Block
Doctor Silverman is found through Cenegenics itself, or you can call Dr. Rusty Silverman at 609-653-0099. Tell him that you got his info from the guy who was interviewed about his work in the Atlantic City Press, he will know me.
Hes great and he does not push it on you, just makes you aware. He also practices what he preaches.
Best of luck,
Slyder1 (SK of Philadelphia)
Doctor Silverman is found through Cenegenics itself, or you can call Dr. Rusty Silverman at 609-653-0099. Tell him that you got his info from the guy who was interviewed about his work in the Atlantic City Press, he will know me.
Hes great and he does not push it on you, just makes you aware. He also practices what he preaches.
Best of luck,
Slyder1 (SK of Philadelphia)
SoMdHunter
Member
At the suggestion of pmgamer, I tried some DIM from the Rite Care site he suggested. Figured I have almost 4 weeks till I can get back to my Dr so I'd like to see what effect if any it would have. Less than a week on it and my erect nipples have calmed down substantially. Erections have returned, and remain relatively strong, although duration is still a problem. For me, this is good news. At least I feel I'm headed in the right direction, even though the progress is slow.
I'll get off of it next week, in time for it to clear my system before blood tests are done.
I'll get off of it next week, in time for it to clear my system before blood tests are done.
SoMdHunter
Member
pmgamer18 said:
Yeah, been thinking that I may have to retrain myself again. Damn this shouldn't be this tough! But my Dr. gave me a sample pack of Cialis to try. First one was pretty good, second one nothing. I'm saving the last one for this weekend while I'm on the DIM. I'm hoping this combination works for me.
SoMdHunter
Member
Slyder1 said:
Sex with the wife.
Thanks for the info janSz, I'll remember that. I only have one left so I want to make it count.
In the meantime, the DIM seems to have helped a bit. I really can't explain it, but sometimes erections are there, sometimes they aren't. Very intermittent and frustrating as hell.
Another injection again tonight as scheduled. I got my paperwork all straightened out, so now I can get to my Urologist as planned. I'm going to talk to him about working with Dr. John and see how receptive he is to the idea.
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the worse, I started this trip being a 1. No libido, severe ED, loss of muscle strength, tired, getting fat, the whole nine yards.
After 3 months on Androgel with no improvement, I'm now 2 months into my scheduled injections. I'd say I'm now a 5 or 6 at best. At least I am now interested and can obtain an erection, even if it isn't lasting or fully hard. So I'm getting there. Once I get my blood work done, we'll have a much clearer picture what is going on.
JanSz
Well-known member
It is already hard work to keep things straight when you have all the tests.SoMdHunter said:
Make the effort, get blood tests. Clean diet, low body fat, will give you head start.
Hmm.., I am using Androgel,
transdermals are most likely producing minimum of E2,
when you buy into the theory that abrupt T fluctuations cause increase of E2.
Androgel is expensive.
When cost is a factor, there are T creams at compounding pharmacies.
Many people are using too much T, then have E2 problems.
Have to look at FreeT, keep it just above 160 at first.
Have to get the right test for FreeT, there are many labs that do it wrong way.
Also, unsolved thyroid should be addressed first.
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If you can get a doctor to write you scripts for blood tests and T, you are half way there.
DIM, Armour Thyroid and Cialis you can buy over internet, if you have to.
You can buy scripts for blood tests from LEF, they are to be done at the LabCorp,
their FreeT stinks, so you will have to calculate it youself from TT,
SHBG and Albumin done from same blood draw.
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When SHBG is high, use
Avena Sativa Extract/Green oat, Urtica dioica aka Stinging nettle.
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I am not a doctor.
pmgamer18
Well-known member
Your getting there still if you find your having a hard time keeping it up do get a script for 20 mgs of Cialis and take it every 72 hrs you will see a big difference no waiting for a pill to have sex and it will keep your BP down.SoMdHunter said:
JanSz I don't agree with you on doing less T to keep E2 down some men just make a lot of E2 even if there not on TRT. This crap about levels from labs don't cut it one needs to dose by how they feel. Many times I talk to men with there T levels at 400 to 600 that don't feel well they have bad joint pain, Fatigue, no libido, ED, brain fog, feelings of Depression and some can't work. :wtf: is better having a higher E2 and needing to take Arimidex or DIM to keep it down or being house bound and sick as a dog. E2 is a dam small price to pay to feel better. Hell I need to take 1mg. of Arimidex a day to keep my E2 in check there is no dam way in hell I am lowing my levels of T or HCG to stop E2. There is no way for a lot of men to do TRT and not have a problem with E2.
Phil
JanSz
Well-known member
I think the trick is to not look at T levels but to get decent FreeT level (160-250) and BAT.pmgamer18 said:
With FreeT, even laboratories are screwing us up.
Many people have SHBG problem and should address that first, if succesful, it will result in higher FreeT.
The other, many people make frequent changes and the system goes hay wire, more E2.
My guess is that when you get your Adrenals and Thyroid under control,
you are going to be cruising just on HCG and half a pill of Indolplex.
It would help if you could get your body fat down,
fat is E2, (not really but close).
If one cannot exercise, fasting one or two days per week would be my second choice in controling fat.
And I am not advocating less T for the sake of E2,
I am saing that just right FreeT and BAT level will minimize E2 problems.
Start at FreeT=160 and think twice before you get it higher, but not over 250.
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All of the above is my opinion as of this afternoon,
it probably will change as the day passes by.
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Thank you for patronizing this board, I have learned a lot from your posts.
SoMdHunter
Member
I'd like to thank both of you for your contribution to my log.
Body fat isn't an issue. I'm 6'2" at 210 lbs. BP has always been low-mid range. The highest I have ever had it was exactly 120/80.
I workout in the gym 4-5 times a week weight training. Matter of fact, I started working out in an effort to produce more test naturally, but it didn't help.
The cost of Cialis or even Androgel isn't a factor. My insurance covers it totally.
And finally, I've heard that extremely low estrogen levels causes joint pain. I've also heard high estrogen levels causes joint pain, so I have no idea which is true. But in either event, I have a lot of joint pain, especially in my wrists, elbows and knees. My nipples were so erect they hurt, although the DIM has noticeably calmed that down. A lack of sensation still persists, creating frustrating sessions with the wife. My testicles have shrunk some within the last 2 months, indicating I'm pretty much shut down. On the other hand, that was the first thing the Dr noticed during my initial exam, so I wasn't producing much as it was anyway.
So when I see my Urologist next month, I'm going to hand him Dr. John list of blood tests to run after being on TRT for 5 weeks, even though I have been on it longer. I expect to see low LH and TSH, high E2 and maybe SHBG. I'm hoping my T levels are adequate, or at least correctable via estrogen control, as I really don't want to go any higher on the T injections unless I have to.
I'm determined in my quest to get everything corrected. The one thing I fear the most is that my levels come back "optimal" and that my problems are now all in my head. I need to be successful with the wife at least once to make sure it isn't psycological.
Thanks again for your contribution to my log.
SMH
Body fat isn't an issue. I'm 6'2" at 210 lbs. BP has always been low-mid range. The highest I have ever had it was exactly 120/80.
I workout in the gym 4-5 times a week weight training. Matter of fact, I started working out in an effort to produce more test naturally, but it didn't help.
The cost of Cialis or even Androgel isn't a factor. My insurance covers it totally.
And finally, I've heard that extremely low estrogen levels causes joint pain. I've also heard high estrogen levels causes joint pain, so I have no idea which is true. But in either event, I have a lot of joint pain, especially in my wrists, elbows and knees. My nipples were so erect they hurt, although the DIM has noticeably calmed that down. A lack of sensation still persists, creating frustrating sessions with the wife. My testicles have shrunk some within the last 2 months, indicating I'm pretty much shut down. On the other hand, that was the first thing the Dr noticed during my initial exam, so I wasn't producing much as it was anyway.
So when I see my Urologist next month, I'm going to hand him Dr. John list of blood tests to run after being on TRT for 5 weeks, even though I have been on it longer. I expect to see low LH and TSH, high E2 and maybe SHBG. I'm hoping my T levels are adequate, or at least correctable via estrogen control, as I really don't want to go any higher on the T injections unless I have to.
I'm determined in my quest to get everything corrected. The one thing I fear the most is that my levels come back "optimal" and that my problems are now all in my head. I need to be successful with the wife at least once to make sure it isn't psycological.
Thanks again for your contribution to my log.
SMH
JanSz
Well-known member
SoMdHunter said:
Set youself high goals, but not too high.
You will not correct everything, but you will get 95%.
Learn to be happy about it.
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Example, when my pines is ready now, I have to do it now,
3 hours latter will not cut it.
If you are like that, tell your wife about it.
It is not your fault, do not accept any guilt about it.
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SoMdHunter
Member
JanSz said:
No offfense JanSz, but I don't think wanting to have a normal sexs life again is asking too much. At this point, I refuse to settle for anything less than that. To do so accepts failure.
SoMdHunter
Member
Will do bro. I got my paperwork in the mail, so I'm all set to see my Dr. in less than 4 weeks. In the mean time I'm going to start keeping a daily journal to write down the positive and negatives so I can tell him how I'm doing.
SoMdHunter
Member
Thread Update:
Injection went perfect. Completely painless. I actually had an erection couple of nights ago, which pleasantly surprised me. Gonna attempt another session with the wife this weekend...
On the other hand, I can tell my T levels are up as I'm starting to see some good gains in the gym! If I could just get this ED corrected, I would be one happy camper. I responded pretty good to my last Cialis, not perfectly, but pretty good. I've also noticed I feel much much better, both emotionally and physically. So I'm on the right path. Just need some tweeking I guess.
Injection went perfect. Completely painless. I actually had an erection couple of nights ago, which pleasantly surprised me. Gonna attempt another session with the wife this weekend...
On the other hand, I can tell my T levels are up as I'm starting to see some good gains in the gym! If I could just get this ED corrected, I would be one happy camper. I responded pretty good to my last Cialis, not perfectly, but pretty good. I've also noticed I feel much much better, both emotionally and physically. So I'm on the right path. Just need some tweeking I guess.
SoMdHunter
Member
Injection once again last night was fine.
I can't explain it, but libido seems to be much higher lately. Erection quality has been awesome lately, but is extremely short in duration. I'm still not successful with my wife, but I am noticeably better. I've also noticed my nipples have calmed down alot. I have no explaination for it. I got off the DIM after almost 2 weeks as I noticed no difference. Now it seems everything is getting better.
Could it be that my system is only now adjusting to the weekly injections? After 2 1/2 months, I would think this isn't the case. Weird.
My appointment is the 23rd of Feb, and I'll get my blood work done to see where everything is. I'm also going to discuss if my Dr. will work with Dr. John. In the mean time I just keep on keeping on.
I can't explain it, but libido seems to be much higher lately. Erection quality has been awesome lately, but is extremely short in duration. I'm still not successful with my wife, but I am noticeably better. I've also noticed my nipples have calmed down alot. I have no explaination for it. I got off the DIM after almost 2 weeks as I noticed no difference. Now it seems everything is getting better.
Could it be that my system is only now adjusting to the weekly injections? After 2 1/2 months, I would think this isn't the case. Weird.
My appointment is the 23rd of Feb, and I'll get my blood work done to see where everything is. I'm also going to discuss if my Dr. will work with Dr. John. In the mean time I just keep on keeping on.
SoMdHunter
Member
Well, bad news today. I dropped off some information from Dr Johns site with my Urologist in preparation for my appoint next week. He called the house and said all this is way over his head and that I should go somewhere else. He is too busy dealing with cancer, etc... to work with me.
I'll attempt to see if he will at least run the blood tests I need. If he will do that and give me another script for enough injections to do me till I can get to see Dr. John, I'll be happy. If not, then I'm going to be hormonally challenged till I can hook up with Dr. John! :frustrate
I'll attempt to see if he will at least run the blood tests I need. If he will do that and give me another script for enough injections to do me till I can get to see Dr. John, I'll be happy. If not, then I'm going to be hormonally challenged till I can hook up with Dr. John! :frustrate
bobbyn
Member
Checking in / Have my protocall set up
hi guys...phil, somdhunter, tracey....rest of you
i sent some of you guys pm's on BB but have only heard back from
phil...
SoMd...glad your on your way to doing better. i have finally rec'd my labs back, talked to dr john and have my protocall set.
in a nut shell everything is low.....my e is ok, and insulin slightly high.
protocall is 1iu og hgh, and of 5% t-gel....
tracey....how'd you make out at dr johns?
hope everyone else is doing well
bob
hi guys...phil, somdhunter, tracey....rest of you
i sent some of you guys pm's on BB but have only heard back from
phil...
SoMd...glad your on your way to doing better. i have finally rec'd my labs back, talked to dr john and have my protocall set.
in a nut shell everything is low.....my e is ok, and insulin slightly high.
protocall is 1iu og hgh, and of 5% t-gel....
tracey....how'd you make out at dr johns?
hope everyone else is doing well
bob
SoMdHunter
Member
PM received bob.........thanks for the info.
SoMdHunter
Member
Update to my log. Today is good news, followed by more good news!
I saw my Urologist and he has agreed to run any testing that needs to be done by Dr. John!!!! He also drew some blood to check my Free T, Total T, Estradiol and DHT. I forgot about fasting so he couldn't do my Lipid Profile or my CBC. But I got the ones I could, and will be sent the results when they are available.
He also gave me a script for more Test C to do me until I can get to Dr. John. He also will provide Dr John with a copy of my record as needed! So far so good!
So now all I have to do is save the money for the initial consult. And take care of whatever testing that may be needed.
So all is looking up for me!!!
I saw my Urologist and he has agreed to run any testing that needs to be done by Dr. John!!!! He also drew some blood to check my Free T, Total T, Estradiol and DHT. I forgot about fasting so he couldn't do my Lipid Profile or my CBC. But I got the ones I could, and will be sent the results when they are available.
He also gave me a script for more Test C to do me until I can get to Dr. John. He also will provide Dr John with a copy of my record as needed! So far so good!
So now all I have to do is save the money for the initial consult. And take care of whatever testing that may be needed.
So all is looking up for me!!!
bobbyn
Member
yo smh,
glad it's working out... why don't you consider driving to see dr john? if loots tight you won't have to worry about the airfare. all the affordable flights for me were connecting flights so betweeen having to get to the airport an hour before the flights and all the stand by time i woulda been killing over 7 hours anyway
if you'll be going tpk to 80...i'm 1/2 hour off 80 at roughly x35...
your welcome to stay over
bob
glad it's working out... why don't you consider driving to see dr john? if loots tight you won't have to worry about the airfare. all the affordable flights for me were connecting flights so betweeen having to get to the airport an hour before the flights and all the stand by time i woulda been killing over 7 hours anyway
if you'll be going tpk to 80...i'm 1/2 hour off 80 at roughly x35...
your welcome to stay over
bob
JanSz
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I am at Rt80 exit 41, I go shopping to Rockaway Mall (exit 35). It is about 15 minutes for me to get to exit 35.
This is good pov, just wait till snow is gone.
Any body planning trip from this neighborhood?
Total Distance: 674.1 miles, Total Travel Time: 9 hours 21 mins
Starting at 40.862446,-74.336331 on I-80 EAST
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