My Methyl Opinions

The fact is... most so called "newbies" wont be using methyldienolone.... since most who use sledges products only know about them from the board.... even Bk's methyldienolone isnt talked about much..... I dont think we should have low or high dosing.... we shuld jsut give people facts.... I dont think its our job to protect people from themselves, when we do that, we are jsut like the senatros and media creating the ban now. If we say on the label start with 4-5mg and increase to 7-10mg and not to exceed X mg, people wont have to guess as to what the correct dosage is.
 
db682 said:
Yeah! I cant say that Im your human pin cushion but Ive done a pretty decent amount. Any reason why you ask?

db
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I was wondering if people who have done AAS or (have been training for a while ) and are probably 50lbs over their natural weight already might need higher dosages.
 
2 things before I go to bed:

1. I think M1,4 could be a great compound, but as Skark (cheers) pointed out, the cost is siginificantly more than the other new PH's, so it loses some luster in my eyes. :(

2. After playing around with M1T in a few cycle lengths and dosages, I'd say 20-30mg is ok for vets, but 10mg is ideal for everyone else. I prefer 4-6 week cycles of it for mass gains. 2 week cycles were OK for me, but 4 weeks yielded much better results as far as water vs. LBM gains.
 
The only problem I really have with the M1T is the shut down from it. Shut down is worse on it than 500mg of test a week for me.
 
Jerfo said:
db, which brand are you using again bro? Sledge's correct???
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Sledge hooked me up with a gram of Mdien and I brewed my own liquid batch. Let me just say that 1 gram makes a hell of alot. Thank good I have 15 grams of nolva on hand to. Im set for about the next 2-3 years. I also have 4 grams of M1T (2 from sledge and 2 from another source). I ve plenty of ****. Lets not get into cialis either. Got a lifetime supply of that. Thats besides all the nonmethyl raws I have as well.

Sledge is the man though. He's hooked me up and replaced some **** I had that we thought was underdosed on the house. And the best part is that his **** really works!
 
ditto.

i've got a lot of powders from sledge. imo, paying for somebody to make a liquid solution is ridiculous, but hey - if people want to pay, let em.

it is easy enough to turn 1-test cyp into an injectable (as an end user) and completely legal. it is even easier to turn power methyls into orals.

the m-dien powder i got is very yellow, whereas other methyls were white. i am assuming this is normal?
 
Thats funny cause my Mdien was very white. I know fina and tren have yellow tints to them but that is irrelavent since Ive also seen completely white tren powder before. How did you get your mdien raws from? I would double check with DS, custom and maybe NSruff. Even the Mdien liquids that I recieved prior to getting the raws were completely clear. If the powder was tinted then the liquid should have a lighter tint to it as well.

db
 
Every sample of methyldienolone I have ever recieved was white, mine didint even have a yellow tint to it, and I know another perosn who received the smae (methyldienolone) form a different source and it was also pure white. WHere did you get the powder from? There may have been a mix up or a bad bach, im not sure there.
 
There was no mix up, my first 2 samples had a slight yellow tint, I have posted the lab reports (97% pure or better) with those samples and it says white / yellowish crsytaline powder.

I think it depends on who is making it, the kg that was used for the tabs as well as the 200gms of raw powder I have left are white, that powder also tested 97% and it was from a different supplier.

I dont think there is a person on the planet who has seen more samples of this compound then myself, and I get every single one of them tested at least once but lately it has been twice by two different methods just to be safe.
 
if sledge says the good m-di can be yellow, then that is good enough for me. it's yellow.

the solution (a peg-one) is very yellow.
 
db682 said:
Thats funny cause my Mdien was very white. I know fina and tren have yellow tints to them but that is irrelavent since Ive also seen completely white tren powder before. How did you get your mdien raws from? I would double check with DS, custom and maybe NSruff. Even the Mdien liquids that I recieved prior to getting the raws were completely clear. If the powder was tinted then the liquid should have a lighter tint to it as well.

db
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Actually, the liquids were only 1 mg/ml so there is not enough hormone to tint it. When I got my gram,well, two grams really, I mixed one in 100ml PEG400 to make a concentrate liquid 100mg/ml. It was a beutiful yellowy color. Just like fina pellets. I draw out 1 ml of that and add it to 50mlPEG400 to make a 2mg/ml solution. Easy as pie :)

And trust me, my stuff is legit. It came from Sldge's original 100GM sample. 98% pure. :cool:
 
i made my solution at 3mg/ml.

it's the color of... uh... well, you ever pee after a lot of B vitamins?
 
Lean One said:
When I got my gram,well, two grams really, I mixed one in 100ml PEG400 to make a concentrate liquid 100mg/ml. It was a beutiful yellowy color. Just like fina pellets. I draw out 1 ml of that and add it to 50mlPEG400 to make a 2mg/ml solution. Easy as pie :)

And trust me, my stuff is legit. It came from Sldge's original 100GM sample. 98% pure. :cool:
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I dont get your math for the dosing bro. If Im reading this right you took 1 gm, which equals 1000 mg, and added that to 100 ml of PEG. You should have a solution of 10 mg/ml. Then your pulling 1ml out and adding that to 50 ml of PEG again. That would be the mathimatical equivilent of 1ml which contains 10 mg of MD divided by 50 ml of PEG. Your dosing should only be .2 mg/ml at that rate.

I think you meant 10 ml of PEG for your concentrate mix. ;)

db
 
db682 said:
I dont get your math for the dosing bro. If Im reading this right you took 1 gm, which equals 1000 mg, and added that to 100 ml of PEG. You should have a solution of 10 mg/ml. Then your pulling 1ml out and adding that to 50 ml of PEG again. That would be the mathimatical equivilent of 1ml which contains 10 mg of MD divided by 50 ml of PEG. Your dosing should only be .2 mg/ml at that rate.

I think you meant 10 ml of PEG for your concentrate mix. ;)

db
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OMG! :eek: You're right! :o That means I was taking less than a gram a day?? I don't get it. I gained like six pounds and believe me the pumps and agression was unreal. I don't know how to explain it. Could we get a third party to verify the math here? If I have a concentrate solution of 10mg/ml, Then I should have added 10ml to 50ml PEG400 to make 2 mg/ml?? I'm fucking baffled here. If my math was that far off, How can I explain the results??

Jeez, someone straighten me out here. :rolleyes:
 
God, I still can't fucking believe this. I feel like a total ass. :gore:

If this is true, then that means I was only taking a gram a day. I can only imagine what would happen if I was actually taking 4 to 5 mg :rolleyes:
 
Lean One said:
God, I still can't fucking believe this. I feel like a total ass. :gore:

If this is true, then that means I was only taking a gram a day. I can only imagine what would happen if I was actually taking 4 to 5 mg :rolleyes:
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A gram a day - what do you mean? You took less than 1mg a day right?
 
Lean One said:
OMG! :eek: You're right! :o That means I was taking less than a gram a day?? I don't get it. I gained like six pounds and believe me the pumps and agression was unreal. I don't know how to explain it. Could we get a third party to verify the math here? If I have a concentrate solution of 10mg/ml, Then I should have added 10ml to 50ml PEG400 to make 2 mg/ml?? I'm fucking baffled here. If my math was that far off, How can I explain the results??

Jeez, someone straighten me out here. :rolleyes:
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Yes db is right. 1gm in 100ml = 10mg/ml.
You gained because of the great placeo effect ;)
 
Lean One said:
God, I still can't fucking believe this. I feel like a total ass. :gore:

If this is true, then that means I was only taking a gram a day. I can only imagine what would happen if I was actually taking 4 to 5 mg :rolleyes:
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Your doing a hell of a job confusing me. Now your taking a gram a day??? I really hope your not in the medical field bro. ;) Stop being cheap, buy a freaking scale. it would make this so much easier.

db
 
db682 said:
Your doing a hell of a job confusing me. Now your taking a gram a day??? I really hope your not in the medical field bro. ;) Stop being cheap, buy a freaking scale. it would make this so much easier.

db
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It's not a scale I need to buy. It's a goddam calculotor and half a brain.

:shoot:
 
MarcusG said:
Dude, what were you dosages then??
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Basicly 1mg/day.

The best explanation I can come up with is that the M-Dien helped solidify the gains i made from the M14ADD. It also enabled me to keep my strength gains witch probably helped me pick up those last couple pounds. All I know is the gains were real. I'm still up 7 lbs after losing some water last week.
 
Sledge, how many testers did you have for the m4ohn and how potent is m4ohn in comparison to the m-dien?? It seems to me that everyone is testing it in higher dosages.
 
Designer Supps said:
LO your math is off but i doubt you had a placebo effect like that.
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Yeah. I'm a little scared to make a REAL 2mg/ml solution now. I could end up looking like the bull in the myostatin ads. :eek:
 
Yeah really.

That is such a tough question to answer just because they can be so different, technically M4OHN has a higher anabolic profile then MD, and if I remember MD has a higher androgenic profile which would make MD "stronger" slightly. That is the only problem with a post like this is everyone starts out taking more before they have even tried something lower.
 
Jayhawkk said:
YUp the placebo effect. It'll do wonders when your mind is set to something :)
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It's no placebo effect. correct me if i'm wrong, but lean one is stacking the M-dien with an injectable. And that's why you can't give an honest review if you are stacking the product you're reviewing IMO.
 
Where can I get some m4ohn and mdien powder? The retail pills are too expensive for me to swallow.

Thanks in advance
B1
 
lancelot said:
It's no placebo effect. correct me if i'm wrong, but lean one is stacking the M-dien with an injectable. And that's why you can't give an honest review if you are stacking the product you're reviewing IMO.
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Actually I was stacking it with 4AD transdermal so that probably helped with the gains.
 
No MDien powder yet, I ll have the M4OHN tabs done in a few weeks. But i still have M4OHN powder left, about 200 gms.
 
NO MERCY said:
I hope no one minds me bumping up this older thread.

Has anyone dosed m1,4add at 200-300mgs a day?
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I worked up to 180, but switched to M-Dien after 4weeks so I don't think I gave it enough time to reap the full benitits of that dose. I did like it a lot though. No sides whatsoever. I'm planning on doing 200 next time stacked with tren. It will be my first time pinning. :twisted: hehehehe
 
nsruffryder34 said:
I used it at 250, and the gains were awesome..... not really any side effects to mention, mild acne on my back but that was it....
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Damm! what was the concentration of your solution? The most I tried was 40mg/ml.It stayed in solution pretty well.Looks like I'm doing 250 then next time. :twisted:
 
nsruffryder34 said:
I had 50mg caps.... since I had access to a pro. capper
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Well, I got about 40grams of powder. :rofl: I guess I'll be suckin down the PEG400 like a junkie. :drunk:
 
nsruffryder34 said:
I used it at 250, and the gains were awesome..... not really any side effects to mention, mild acne on my back but that was it....
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Damn,I thought I was doing alot at 120mg.
 
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