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My havoc cycle

zlatan8

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Hi guys
Monday i start my first havoc cycle and i would want write my cycle progress, day for day, in this post.
You can write youe opinon or suggest if you like.
I wrote my cycle in this forum 2 weeks ago but i rewrote here


DURING CYCLE

Furazadrol (4 weeks)

Week1 150 mg
Week2 200mg
Week3 200 mg
Week4 200 mg


Havoc (4 weeks)

Week1 10 mg (after 3 days start 20 mg)
Week2 20 mg
Week3 30 mg
Week4 30 mg

Life support (preload 1 week, i take during and PCT)

AM 2 caps
PM 2 caps

And I take taurine (for the cramps,) pro, multi and cissus.

PCT

Serm ( tamoxifene )

Week1 40 mg
Week2 30 mg
Week3 20 mg
Week1 10 mg

Lean xtreme Start 15 days

3 a day

Rebound XT Start 15 days

Week3 2 caps
Week4 1 caps
Week5 1 caps

Post cycle support

AM 2 tabs
PM 2 tabs

In PCT I take pro, creatine CEE, multi, perfect cycle.

DIET

3500 kCAL, 250 gr. pro, 350 gr carbo, 100 gr, fat

WO

Monday Chest/Abdominal
Tuesday Back/ Legs
Wednestay Arm/ Abdominal
Thursay -------------
Fryday Chest/ Abdominal
Saturday Back/ Legs
Sunday --------------

For cardio i play soccer 2 a weeks.
 
This is my hours plan:



6.30 AM

1 CAPS Cissus extreme (750 mg)
1 Caps Adam

9.00 AM

1 CAPS Fish oil (1000 mg)
1 CAPS Furazadrol

11.00 AM
2 CAPS Life support
1 CAPS L-Taurine (1500 mg)


12.30 PM

1 CAPS Coq10 (100 mg)


Pre WO

1 CAPS Fish oil
1 CAPS Furazadrol
1 CAPS Havoc

Post WO

1 Scoops Whey


6.00 PM
2 CAPS Life support


6.50 PM
1 CAPS Cissus estreme
1 CAPS Adam

8.30 PM

1 CAPS Furazadrol
 
i dont feel a serm is nessacary to use on a havoc cycle.

keep it on hand if needed but i dont think youll need anything other then 6oxo and Primal Male by man sports.
 
Ziquor said:
Havoc's a potent steroid so I'd definitely opt for the SERM. The cycle looks great IMO.

Here's the best (IMO) epithio write-up if you haven't yet seen it. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/recomp-performance-nutrition/82835-havoc-write-up.html
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ive used it and i feel its strong, but not strong enough to warrent a SERM. same way i feel about orastane E, halodrol. and if i use a SERM i would DEFINETLY NOT use it the way every one overdoses it.

i feel that you can definetly get away with 6oxo and primal male by man sports as PCT,
but if you run it longer the 4 weeks then yea serm will be more necessary.
 
crazyfool405 said:
ive used it and i feel its strong, but not strong enough to warrent a SERM. same way i feel about orastane E, halodrol. and if i use a SERM i would DEFINETLY NOT use it the way every one overdoses it.

i feel that you can definetly get away with 6oxo and primal male by man sports as PCT,
but if you run it longer the 4 weeks then yea serm will be more necessary.
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I agree with the overdose part.I would go 30/30/20/10.
 
Disturbed said:
I agree with the overdose part.I would go 30/30/20/10.
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ive never gone higher then 20 mg before maybe tops was 25.

ive been as low as 10mg nolva with great recovery (used it with 10mg or 20 mg aromasin)

no longer then 3 weeks EVER. always recovered fine.
 
I thinked the dose of SERM is high. I think this is my new dose:
week1 40 mg (1-2 days) and after 30 mg
Week2 30 mg
Week3 20 mg
Week 4 10 mg

For preoload of life support i take for 5 days last week and after i stop because i have a fever (the causes is shell fish) and now i take life support for 2 days. In your opinion can i start my havoc cycle tomorrow or i wait other 2-3 days?
 
Thanks guys..
Ok for nolva 40 mg day 1 and after 20 mg. For AI i think take Rebound XT after 2 weeks PCT, week3 2 caps and week4 and 5 1 caps.
I wait today for a preload life support tomorrow i start my cycle
 
zlatan8 said:
Thanks guys..
Ok for nolva 40 mg day 1 and after 20 mg. For AI i think take Rebound XT after 2 weeks PCT, week3 2 caps and week4 and 5 1 caps.
I wait today for a preload life support tomorrow i start my cycle
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Sounds good bro:thumbsup:
 
zlatan8 said:
Thanks guys..
Ok for nolva 40 mg day 1 and after 20 mg. For AI i think take Rebound XT after 2 weeks PCT, week3 2 caps and week4 and 5 1 caps.
I wait today for a preload life support tomorrow i start my cycle
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x2 - everything looks on point, good luck :head:
 
Thanks at all..
Tomorrow i start my cycle and i will write my progress, sides...
I add on my cycle RPN Gut Health, 1 caps a day.
 
zlatan8 said:
Thanks at all..
Tomorrow i start my cycle and i will write my progress, sides...
I add on my cycle RPN Gut Health, 1 caps a day.
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I'm running Gut Health now, logs in the reviews section and it's one amazing supplement. My stomach/lower GI feels great :thumbsup:
 
DAY 1

Today i start my cycle with:

10 mg Havoc
150 mg Furazadrol

I don't have any problem and i like the effects of havoc at WO ( increase bench press 10 lb).

My starting weight is 175 lb, i hope 190 lb at the end of cycle.
 
DAY 5

20 mg Havoc
150 mg Furazadrol

I start 20 mg at day 4. Until now i don't gains any pounds..
Is normally for the first 4-5 days?
Suggestion?
 
zlatan8 said:
DAY 5

20 mg Havoc
150 mg Furazadrol

I start 20 mg at day 4. Until now i don't gains any pounds..
Is normally for the first 4-5 days?
Suggestion?
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Yes it is normal give it 2 weeks might want to up the Furazadrol.:thumbsup:
 
Ok i would want increase my pro from 250 gr at 300 gr (3500 Kcal) with 3 scoops of pro (until today only 1 scoop a day)
 
MY cycle of havoc ran at 10/20/30/40 left me with good gains, but also left me with augmented breast tissue. very minor, but there definalty not like they were before cycle. i went the otc route shoulda used a serm. gain wise like 8 lbs got my stregth up on all workouts. 3 months later the stregn has fallen a little as well as size and hardness. was a good cycle. side effects on my body were headeaches,calf pumps, lethary loss in sex drive decrease in semen. my otc pct was advanced pct,activate extreme. during cycle now adam red yeast rice,antioxidants, liver care
 
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But now do you have a problem with sex or the problem is only during cycle?
In the 4th week i take 40 mg if i will not a harsh side in 3rd with 30 mg.
I know the problem fo definition, in fact i add on cycle furazadrol for definition...
About side, until now, i have a "pressure in head" (excuse me, but i don't know in english, i hope you understand) in the first 2 evening
 
Day 7

Havoc 20 mg
Furazadrol 200 mg

Until now no gains any pounds..
I sell havoc on e-bay, are there a probability is a spam havoc?!?
The bottles, caps and price is the same at the original...
 
zlatan8 said:
Day 7

Havoc 20 mg
Furazadrol 200 mg

Until now no gains any pounds..
I sell havoc on e-bay, are there a probability is a spam havoc?!?
The bottles, caps and price is the same at the original...
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Give it more time bro:thumbsup:
 
Thanks..
My havoc have a different stopper ( black instead red) but i don't think this is a important different..
I wait more time and i hope gains weight
 
INKTOXICATED said:
MY cycle of havoc ran at 10/20/30/40 left me with good gains, but also left me with augmented breast tissue. very minor, but there definalty not like they were before cycle. i went the otc route shoulda used a serm. gain wise like 8 lbs got my stregth up on all workouts. 3 months later the stregn has fallen a little as well as size and hardness. was a good cycle. side effects on my body were headeaches,calf pumps, lethary loss in sex drive decrease in semen. my otc pct was advanced pct,activate extreme. during cycle now adam red yeast rice,antioxidants, liver care
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Did you have any signs of gyno growing up, prone? I know two gents who got gyno from an Epithio cycle but were prone.
 
Z,

i dont really think it matters which hormone u use if your prone to gyno, if your prone to it , itll flare up during the cycle on aromatizing compounds and if you run a non aromatizing compound itll flare up during PCT.

If your not prone to it, it doesnt matter what you use (like me im not prone to it so im not so worried)
 
My diet is:

3500 kCAL, 250 gr. pro, 350 gr carbo, 100 gr, fat

I increase at 270-280 gr of pro from 2 days.

Weight: 175 lb
 
crazyfool405 said:
Z,

i dont really think it matters which hormone u use if your prone to gyno, if your prone to it , itll flare up during the cycle on aromatizing compounds and if you run a non aromatizing compound itll flare up during PCT.

If your not prone to it, it doesnt matter what you use (like me im not prone to it so im not so worried)
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Yeah, basically. Though if someone's prone and had issues as a child, aromatizing or not - I wouldn't run any AAS if I were them, not even steroidal AI's.
 
Hi guys
i start my cycle 24 days ago.. until now i don't have any side and i gains 13 lb..
I start from 3 days at 40 mg havoc a day... I would want continue my cycle week again ( 5 weeks in total).
What do you think?
 
Hi

tomorro i start my PCT. In total i gains 13 lb in this cycle.
This is my PCT:

SERM (tamoxifene)

Week1 : 40/40/30/30/30/20/20
Week2: 20 mg
Week3: 20 mg
Week4: 10 mg

PCS

2 AM
2 PM (pre WO)

Creatine CEE

3 Before WO
3 Caps After WO

Lean xtreme (start at 15 days)

3 a day for 4 weeks

AI (Rebound XT)

Week3: 2 caps
Wee4-5: 1 caps

In PCT i take cycle support, pro and multi.

I have some question about Nolva.

Which hour is better for i take SERM?
I take with food or only?
I take one caps 4 times a day or 20mg twice a day?
In PCT, i take Cissus and Taurine or not?

Many thanks
 
zlatan8 said:
Hi

tomorro i start my PCT. In total i gains 13 lb in this cycle.
This is my PCT:

SERM (tamoxifene)

Week1 : 40/40/30/30/30/20/20
Week2: 20 mg
Week3: 20 mg
Week4: 10 mg

PCS

2 AM
2 PM (pre WO)

Creatine CEE

3 Before WO
3 Caps After WO

Lean xtreme (start at 15 days)

3 a day for 4 weeks

AI (Rebound XT)

Week3: 2 caps
Wee4-5: 1 caps

In PCT i take cycle support, pro and multi.

I have some question about Nolva.

Which hour is better for i take SERM?
I take with food or only?
I take one caps 4 times a day or 20mg twice a day?
In PCT, i take Cissus and Taurine or not?

Many thanks
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Yes lower dose Nolva should be fine. I usually take it just before bed. You probally do not need taurine in pct. Best of luck bro.
 
Many thanks guys i will go with 20 mg Nolva..
I take CEE because mono don't work for me.
I change a dosage ATD ( i was think 2 caps a day i kill my libido). This is a new ATD dosage:

week 3 1 caps EOD
Week 4 1 caps ED
Week 4-5 1 caps OD

I don't take taurine in PCT ( is probably i ake Gut Health during PCT)
 
zlatan8 said:
Many thanks guys i will go with 20 mg Nolva..
I take CEE because mono don't work for me.
I change a dosage ATD ( i was think 2 caps a day i kill my libido). This is a new ATD dosage:

week 3 1 caps EOD
Week 4 1 caps ED
Week 4-5 1 caps OD

I don't take taurine in PCT ( is probably i ake Gut Health during PCT)
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CEE will work also if your a non responder to mono. Good luck bro.
 
GREAT log zlatan8

Don't know how I missed it. Thanks for using Cycle Support and POST Cycle Support! :head:


CROWLER
 
I am ending first week PCT. I don't have any problems a part of libido. During cycle my libido is good but durig this is week my libid is very low. Is normal? any suggest?
 
Ziquor said:
What are you running the Nolva at?
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if too high like most people run it it may over stimulate the hypothalmus and further decrease recovery, as far as what ive read, i never go higher then 20 mg on nolva,

my libido never ever leaves thoguh lol, alway really high. so its never a problem for me, seems like nolva has been causing issues lately,

Research chem or other?

if its research chem like ive been saying for a while no one really knows how legit it is which is why a backup OTC is ALWAYS good to have aswell.
 
yes i take with nolva PCS and Tribulus but now my libido is better respect 2 days ago, is not perfect again but is better respect last week.
 
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