My first short AAS cycle

pjsallday

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I have done some prohormones in the past and am going to move on to bigger and better things. I would like to do a short cycle. About 6 weeks I believe. I was thinking of test prop for 150 eod and nolva for 4 weeks 40-20-20-10 for pct.Is there something else I could use for a short cycle that won't hurt so bad to pin. let me know what you guys think.
 
you could try this:

1-6 test prop 125 eod
1-6 npp 100-125 eod
1-6 dbol 35 mg ed

regular pct

mixing the npp with the prop should cut down some on the pain
 
pjsallday said:
I have done some prohormones in the past and am going to move on to bigger and better things. I would like to do a short cycle. About 6 weeks I believe. I was thinking of test prop for 150 eod and nolva for 4 weeks 40-20-20-10 for pct.Is there something else I could use for a short cycle that won't hurt so bad to pin. let me know what you guys think.
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well glenihan's would kick ass but would still be painful or you will be pinning a lot. (if you mix the NPP and prop togather it will work out to about 2cc a day or 1cc a day but maybe painful) An another option is to use a test base transderamal (I would still follow glens plan, for short cycles I kinda think 2 componts is a better option.)
 
Well I just decided to to do a trans TB cycle 300mg topical a day.
Should I use HCG and if so what dosages and what points in the cycle. I will be using nolva 40 20 20 10. I will be running the cycle for 6 weeks. thanks a lot

pjs
 
No, and anywhere hairless or recently shaved. However, I would avoid the more sensitive areas.
I personally like the tops of my feet, or the bend in the knee.

I should add keep the Nolva handy for any signs of gyno on cycle.
 
pjsallday said:
Well I just decided to to do a trans TB cycle 300mg topical a day.
Should I use HCG and if so what dosages and what points in the cycle. I will be using nolva 40 20 20 10. I will be running the cycle for 6 weeks. thanks a lot

pjs
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Good choice.
 
A good first cylcle that i started out with was 300ml of cyp a week for 10 weeks and PCT with nolva. Like you I didnt really want to go crazy with the pinz. And as far as your transdermal question, the best places to apply that is behind your knees, on your shoulders, and/or your chest after shaving and showering because it opens you pores.
 
I have gotten ahold of winnie and dbol. I was thinking of running either one of these ways

week 1-4 35 mg dbol
week2-7 300 mg tb ed

or

week 1-6 300mg tb ed
I would like help on when to run this and if I should.

I am currently 170 lbs 5'10' 8% bf . I just lost about 10 lbs while cutting but I got caught up in school (c.s.e. is a bear) and lost some muscle too. So I would like to not gain too much fat or bloat. that is why I want to run the winnie. But I know I could also keep the bloat down with armidex which I will probably run throughout .5mg eod. I just want to know that I am going to keep all of my gains or most of them. My diet is always in check so that won't be a problem. So now with all that nonsense spat out can someone make sense of it and give me some advice.
 
Just my opinion:

1-4 dbol 35mg ed
1-6 test base 300mg trans ed

Arimidex will take care of the bloat, so add it in if you want. Winnie won't keep you from gaining fat, that's your diet's job :D

As far as the winnie goes, it's either/or with the dbol---you don't want to kill your liver running two orals. Save the winnie for the future.

-kwantam
 
don't bother with the a-dex .. you shouldn't bloat at all off of test base applying it 2x a day provided your diet is in check .. and using an AI with dbol is counterproductive i like what kwantam outlined .. do that :)
 
yes .. if you start seeing gyno signs start with nolva at 80mg a day .. but i don't see a use for adex with this cycle
 
usualsuspect112 said:
And as far as your transdermal question, the best places to apply that is behind your knees, on your shoulders, and/or your chest after shaving and showering because it opens you pores.
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I would advise against applying a dermal after shaving. With minor cuts and/or razor burn, it would be a long, painful burn. After a hot shower is good enough.
 
What are the pros and cons of doing winnie for my first cycle. I understand that it is highly androgenic so I have a higer possibility of rage, zits, dry joints, high cholestrol etc. The only reason I ask is because it is summer and I don't want to blow up. My understanding is that you lose most of the weight you gain from dbol along with the strength. So basically why shouldn't I do winnie for my first run. thanks for all your input by the way.
 
I wouldn't waste time with winny unless you're very low bodyfat. Dbol is it for size and strength gains, winny won't give you that much of either, it's most popular as a drug for bodybuilders who use it to impart a certain "look" and for athletes who want some extra strength but don't want to move up in weight (if anavar was more affordable winny wouldn't be used for this purpose).
 
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