My first Cycle: Test E/H drol/Formestane

ironmanZVW

ironmanZVW

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Ok. so I am preparing for my first real cycle. I am 22 years old, 180 lbs, 10% bf. I have used some prohormones in the past and had pretty decent results. I am planning on doing 600 mg of test e a week for 16 weeks. I also want to front load with 75 mg of h drol a day for the first 6 weeks of the cycle. I am planning on running formestane at about 100 mg a day throughout the cycle to counter estrogen sides as I am gyno prone.

I want as much advice and criticism lol as possible from everybody. I want to do this cycle right, as safe as possible and get the most out of it. Safety is absolutely my first concern.

My questions about safety are pretty simple. What am I looking at in terms of liver concerns? Blood Pressure? emotional sides?

My pct is going to be nolva and hcg if I need it.

I really appreciate everyone's input, and if you feel like telling me I'm an idiot for any of these questions lol go right ahead as long as you have at least one helpful bit of advice :dance:
 
At your height and weight just keep the test dose at 500mg. It will yield great results on its own and you wont get as much estrogen conversion than running it at 600mg.

I have seen some people use Formestane for there AI on a test cycle and some people who needed AI's like letro, adex, and asin. So have one of those on hand just in case.

Hdrol defeats the purpose of a kickstart as it kicks in week 3-4 at full force but it is a steroid nonethless and it will add its own kick to the cycle. Expect results to pour on week 3-4. Something like Superdrol or Dbol is normally used but you can use Hdrol if you really want to. Keeps the sides down anyways if you're not in a rush for the quick initial gains.

Use hCG at 250iu 2x a week with your test shots throughout the 16 week cycle. No reason to let yourself shutdown for 16 weeks if you have hCG.

Nolva at 20/20/20/20/20 will do. Add in whatever else you can into your PCT.

Not much concern for the liver really. Blood pressure yes due to the estrogen and water retention for the testosterone so watch that. Emotional sides... hmmm... well I have read that your adrenaline rush is stronger when on Testosterone so if something triggers adrenaline you might get a stronger kick. But no, you should feel pretty good and alpha on testosterone.
 
would hcgenerate be a good hcg product to use on cycle? man that stuff is expensive though lol, worth it if it prevents shut down.
 
also I do have liquid letro on hand in case i need it. i have 2 bottles of epitest sitting around (halodrol and epistane) would it be too much to take that instead of the halodrol. I know that's two methylated ph's at once with the test. just wondering?
 
No you can take it but I would just stick to Halodrol and save the Epitest for another cycle. Halodrol and Testosterone is plenty to make some really good gains.

HCGenerate is an OTC testosterone booster in which the Fadogia stimulates leydig cells. It is a good on cycle product for short cycles to lessen shut down but you need many bottles for a 16 week run. I would use real hCG on cycle, and use a single bottle of HCGenerate in PCT.
 
ok thanks. I've been looking around online for info on real hgc. lots of fake stuff out there. how do I tell what's legit lol?? also, anyone know what the average price range is? that would be a good way to determine
 
also, i read that 500iu will do absolutely nothing. is that true?
 
You can tell if it's real by smearing some on a pregnancy test. If it comes out positive it's real hCG.

Average price is 30-50 for 5000iu/vial. If you know where to look you can get 3 vials for that amount though. It is relatively cheap.

And 250iu 2x a week will definitely keep your balls alive. Increasing slightly as the cycle goes on is sometimes needed as well.
 
awesome, really appreciate the info man. is it usual to "react poorly" to test? i've heard a few people say that you can have a bad time with it, but most everything i've read on it seems to indicate that it improves mood and it's one of the safer one's out ther. just wondering
 
also, i know you said i don't need the epistane, but would it be a bad idea to run the epitest (hdrol + epistane) as opposed to just the hdrol?
 
You'll like it and you should react very good assuming it is legit and clean.

You can run Epitest instead of Halodrol it's up to you.
 
yea my friend has run the same stuff several times and has liked it.
 
Listen to Choc. Milk.

Take the HCG, and swap Epistane for H drol. It will show effects way way faster than halo. 500mg of test a wk is plenty for you bro, no need for more. Dont take too much of that AI, your joints will hate you.
 
yea i have taken too much formestane in the past and my joints were pretty sore. but, it is definately better than having gyno flare up, imo anyways.
 
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