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killertriceps

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I came off tren ace cause i couldnt handle the sides, How is it possible im losing muscle but i nearly doubled the Testosterone dosage?

now at 500-750mg a week of test

Was running 700mg of tren

I dropped 6 pounds in 6 days?

Im really pissed off..

Funny thing is that i looked MORE BLOATED on tren, now coming off tren i look leaner..
 
killertriceps said:
I dont seem to gain muscle on test at all even at 1000mg.

But i can do 50mg of Tren ED and blow up... Makes no sense..
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I'm going to go on a limb here and say your diet and/or training is not up to par if you cannot gain off of 1g/wk of test.
 
killertriceps said:
4500 Calories a day, 500g of protein, 6 days a week at the gym.

I guess not.
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That doesn't mean sh*t. First off, that is way too much protein. I'll bet your kidneys aren't too happy with you. Secondly, 6 days tells me nothing. You could be over training or under training.
 
russy_russ said:
That doesn't mean sh*t. First off, that is way too much protein. I'll bet your kidneys aren't too happy with you. Secondly, 6 days tells me nothing. You could be over training or under training.
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Alright lets lay it out for you.

Monday-Chest
Flat bench 3 sets of 10 8 5
Incline Dumbell press 3 sets of 10 8 8
Flat Flies 3 sets of 12
Incline Flies 3 sets of 10
Cable Crossovers 3 sets of 15
Dips 3 sets of 15

Tuesday- Back
Pullups 3 sets of 12
Barbell Rows 3 sets of 6
Lat Pulldown 3 sets of 10
Cable Rows 3 sets of 15
Stiff Legged Deadlifts 3 sets of 12

Wednesday- Legs
4 sets of 15 Squats
4 sets of 8 Leg Press
3 sets of 10 leg raises
3 sets of 15 lunges
3 sets of 25 calve raises

Thursday- Shoulders
Military Press 3 sets of 6
Dumbel Shoulder press 3 sets of 10
Front Raises 3 sets of 15
Side Raises 3 sets of 12
Rever Flies 3 sets of 12

Friday- Arms
Barbell curls 3 sets of 6
Dumbell Curls 3 sets of 10
Close Grip Bench sets of 5
Skull Crushers 3 sets of 10
Tricep Pushdowns 3 sets of 12


Sat and Sunday off - SO 5 days a week.
 
Looks to me your workout could use a lot of work. You should consider a traditional/non-traditional periodizational model at 1-2 week changes in intensity/volume.

On a side note: I hope your carbohydrate intake is sufficient enough to aid in the metabolism of that excess protein.
 
russy_russ said:
Looks to me your workout could use a lot of work. You should consider a traditional/non-traditional periodizational model at 1-2 week changes in intensity/volume.

On a side note: I hope your carbohydrate intake is sufficient enough to aid in the metabolism of that excess protein.
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i gotta spread some rep before giving it to you again lol

Additional B6 is always a good idea.

but that protein is WAY too high

if you wanna go that high in terms of protein bioavailability of shakes is better then food.

400g worth of beef protein will be less bioavailable then 400g worth of powder for example meaning

eat less protein or split the meals 20g from whey and 20g from food. and youll have a better available protein per meal.

now in terms of individuality,

Test is great, it ensures your hormone levels however your tren dose was WAYYYYYYYYY to high broski kidney issues water retention and BP wouldve been a huge issue for anyone on that much.

when i was on 600mg tren enanthate i ate 3 meals a day bc it killed my appetite however i maintained ALL my weight an strength and even when i dropped the dose i still maintained. Tren is soo strong 200-400mg is all u need.
 
and ill probably never do another steroid other then test and tren ever again unless EQ magically appears on my doorstep lol.

its the best for cutting and bulking IMO the action (dryness/wetness) matters nil to me. id rather clean weight,

500mg test 200-300mg tren per week is suffecient to gain/cut due to how strong it is.

MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER

unless it epithiostanols :) love that ****
 
Yeah man but now my weight has gone down, i dropped tren and upped test, i was 197 on monday now im 191....

Hows this possible, im about to ram some test suspension in my ass, and my arms look smaller and on the measuring tape they are too. This depresses the **** outa me..
 
killertriceps said:
Yeah man but now my weight has gone down, i dropped tren and upped test, i was 197 on monday now im 191....

Hows this possible, im about to ram some test suspension in my ass, and my arms look smaller and on the measuring tape they are too. This depresses the **** outa me..
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or.....Ram some water in your ass; ....that's what had you swole in the first place.

Has your strength gone up? You might have sh*tty test
 
xtraflossy said:
or.....Ram some water in your ass; ....that's what had you swole in the first place.

Has your strength gone up? You might have sh*tty test
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Yes my strength has gone up.. Well i get the test from the same guy who gave me tren, and i started blowing the **** up on tren. So idk...
 
killertriceps said:
Yes my strength has gone up.. Well i get the test from the same guy who gave me tren, and i started blowing the **** up on tren. So idk...
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it was probably prolactin related bloating similar to what happens with deca with some people.... Were you more or less vascular on tren?
 
hmm actually as well forgot to ask, did you brew it yourself from fina carts? or buy it? cause if you bought it, could have been anything
 
right, so that could be anything. tren is up there on the list of stuff that UG labs sell other crap as. What sides did you get?
 
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