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Muscle Building Supp suggestions

allday54

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I need some suggestions on what muscle enchancing product to take next. right now i'am taking JP8 and its doing pretty well. Need ideas for a good muscle enhancher that isnt a prohormone or anything that will mess up my body in the future because im jus 18
 
get some cheep creatine mono, wms, and whey for your post workout...other than mass amounts of food, that's all you need right now.
 
delsolrob said:
get some cheep creatine mono, wms, and whey for your post workout...other than mass amounts of food, that's all you need right now.
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He speaks the truth! At 160, the bare basics are what you need. What you call "muscle enhancers" are the extras we throw in after the foundational nutrition and training are already laid - they are the icing on the cake. You, well, you are still putting the cake together. :)
 
Cals at least 500 above maintenance, whey protien, BCAA's, creatine mono, and a pre workout drink for energy and pumps...that would be solid, also there is no danger in taking ZMA at night, may help your recovery and sleep, oh and some fish oil and a multi if want too
 
I agree where the most important thing you need to do is up your food, especially at 18. As for supplements, stick to the basics like a decent multivitamin, creatine (Green Magnitude is awesome), and a good whey for PWO and as a meal on the go. You can even use a PWO supp for the added carbs like Golden Gains.

Check out the Controlled Labs section or even their forums for samples :)
 
I bet you if you gave us some more information about yourself, like bodyfat % what your diet and exercise routine look like, we could be of more assistance. Like the others said- once those things are in order, aside from the basics, you won't need any "muscle building supps," for a while.
 
well for the most part i dont realy have a diet. i dont drink cokes and have stopped eating fast food and junk food stuff like that, and i try to eat things high in protien. but dont realy have a diet plan. My workouts are realy unorganized. I workout 5 times a week for 2.5 hrs i do upper body one day then lower body the next. I realy need help with a diet plan and a workout schedual. if anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
 
allday54 said:
well for the most part i dont realy have a diet. i dont drink cokes and have stopped eating fast food and junk food stuff like that, and i try to eat things high in protien. but dont realy have a diet plan. My workouts are realy unorganized. I workout 5 times a week for 2.5 hrs i do upper body one day then lower body the next. I realy need help with a diet plan and a workout schedual. if anyone could help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
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You are grossly over-training five hrs. max is what your weekly totals should be for work sets(not counting warmups). 2 1/2hrs is not the way to put on mass. Start by finding out what your macro-nutrient count is(protein fat carbs). and experiment with the ratios. i like 40/40/20.
 
Huh?! macro-nutrient count?! i need a dicitonary with all these things! Who knew getting in shape would work your brain as much as the other parts of your body?! lol. But seriously, im in the same boat as the OP, AllDay54. I need help with a diet schedule and a meal plan. I work out as much as i can in good amounts and i play sports all the time so im always active. Please help me out tho. And 1 quick ?---is fruit really bad for this?! my doctors and physicians all say keep eating fruit!
 
yeah idk wat macronutrient count is either. so i need to cut down on my workout sessions if i want to gain mass??? do i need to use more weight and lower reps.
 
allday54 said:
yeah idk wat macronutrient count is either. so i need to cut down on my workout sessions if i want to gain mass??? do i need to use more weight and lower reps.
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macronutrients is the ratio of calories in your diet from protein, carbs, and fat.

for bulking you want to have around 40% of your calories from protein, 40% from good carbs, and 20% from fats.

achieving this while maintaining a positive caloric intake should give your body what it needs to grow.

edit: and with propper training!
 
delsolrob said:
macronutrients is the ratio of calories in your diet from protein, carbs, and fat.

for bulking you want to have around 40% of your calories from protein, 40% from good carbs, and 20% from fats.

achieving this while maintaining a positive caloric intake should give your body what it needs to grow.

edit: and with propper training!
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thanks delsol thats the formula
 
Look man, check this out. Go to bodybuilding.com and go to the supersite and search "lean mass diet" then click on the lean mass diet. This will take care of your diet and calorie needs. It is an EXCELLENT program and diet. You do not have to follow the workout outlined in the book, however, you can. But if you are just really starting out (been lifting for less than a year) then I recommend search bodybuilding.com for a three day per week mass routine. The search bar is your friend. Also, the Lean Mass Diet is a GREAT program and gives sample meal plans as well. Goodluck
 
hey dude... coming from a guy thats 21... i played all sorts of sports in high school and came into college at 18 and started lifting because i was so use to always being busy... i picked up lifting and became addicted... at the results and the intrinsic rewards (the way it made me feel)... ive been lifting now for 4 years and just now becoming what i consider a veteran... my first semester i went from 175 to 205 and gained a crap load of muscle... i then slowly lost that weight and kept most of my gains and muscle... what i did was just like the others said : ate a whole bunch... A WHOLE BUNCH! i quickly figured out that there are no "miracle" supplements... what they do is just "supplement" what you already do in your workouts and diet... lift hard while your in the gym and get out... i use to be like you, working out 2 hours plus... but u have to workout smarter and not longer... i use to go 6 times a week and now do 3-4 at 1 1/2 most... eat eat eat... 5-7 meals a day and protein is your best friend ... also i found a good pre workout supp helped me stay motivated and work hard while i was in the gym (maybe placebo effect but it makes u workout harder knowing your spending the cash on it) and a good creatine helped add gains and mass... i used xplode, cellmass and NO supp (nitrix) all from bsn my freshman year and that was all i needed to get going and it helped... those all are safe for your age and thats all you need... once you get some years and personal knowledge about your body under your belt than you can explore other "supps"... but for now and the coming years just stick to diet and working out.. dont forget to change up your workout every 4-6 weeks to keep your body guessing... constantly change everything to keep your body off balance and you'll be fine... and once you see bodily changes and gains you will be a gym rat... trust me... from a guy who was once in YOUR SHOES!!! good luck!
 
Hey man thanks for that post. It really helps when people try to use analogizes or such to make the readers feel more comfortable and relative to it. I just need help with a workout sched and exercises and diet help. I know this is not the section for those, but will someone please pm me and help me out with them?! I am willing to listen and learn and dont give any grief to those trying to help me. Thanks.
 
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