Msten on a cut

[georgetown]

Anyone have any experience using msten on a cut? Will be around 12% bf when i start, stacking with epiandro. Is muscle gain possible at all or am i just going to add strength? Yes i have a serm and propper on and off support

 

[Jebrook]

Anyone have any experience using msten on a cut? Will be around 12% bf when i start, stacking with epiandro. Is muscle gain possible at all or am i just going to add strength? Yes i have a serm and propper on and off support

Yes, muscle gain is possible. It is best suited for bulking but any compound results will be based upon diet and then training. More than likely, you would gain less mass than normal on a Msten cycle but you would see more of a recomping effect. All depends on how big drastic your calorie deficit is.

 

[georgetown]

Yes, muscle gain is possible. It is best suited for bulking but any compound results will be based upon diet and then training. More than likely, you would gain less mass than normal on a Msten cycle but you would see more of a recomping effect. All depends on how big drastic your calorie deficit is.

good to know, im still most likely gonna go the cutting route

 

[criticalbench]

Yea.. its horrible.. It does next to nothing IMO on a cut. It needs carbs to work properly. If you can diet with a decent amount of carbs, it would be effective but if you are like me and require less than 100% to cut, you will feel and look terrible.

It is not like Tren, Winni, Masteron, etc. that can make you look awesome even when flat and carbless.

 

[georgetown]

Yea.. its horrible.. It does next to nothing IMO on a cut. It needs carbs to work properly. If you can diet with a decent amount of carbs, it would be effective but if you are like me and require less than 100% to cut, you will feel and look terrible.

It is not like Tren, Winni, Masteron, etc. that can make you look awesome even when flat and carbless.

Damn glad i asked cause im on less than 60 carbs cutting right now and thats what works best for me, i could always bump carbs up as a compound will help regardless but it seems to get the most out of it i should bulk

 

[bert45]

Yea.. its horrible.. It does next to nothing IMO on a cut. It needs carbs to work properly. If you can diet with a decent amount of carbs, it would be effective but if you are like me and require less than 100% to cut, you will feel and look terrible.

It is not like Tren, Winni, Masteron, etc. that can make you look awesome even when flat and carbless.

I agree with this it's better suited for a bulk or recomp. I would't want to limit my carbs with this compound. Compounds such as msten superdrol dymethazine need to be feed carbs. If you want to cut I'm sure a high dosed epi product will do just fine

 

[dvw]

I gained 12 lbs on 20 mgs msten 45 days cycle and was on a diet that was 100 g carbs a day with 400 g every 7th day

 

[georgetown]

I gained 12 lbs on 20 mgs msten 45 days cycle and was on a diet that was 100 g carbs a day with 400 g every 7th day

I think thats very doable and a smart strategy, did you lose any bodyfat?

 

[dvw]

I did lose a little, didnt do calipers to measure how much.

 

[georgetown]

I did lose a little, didnt do calipers to measure how much.

Was it worth it or would you bulk with msten next time?

 

[hvactech]

Why don't you cut with epiandro and save the sten

 

[georgetown]

Why don't you cut with epiandro and save the sten

Hmm is that worth it? I thought epiandro was too weak on its own i have some hexadrone as well

 

[hvactech]

Hmm is that worth it? I thought epiandro was too weak on its own i have some hexadrone as well

Weak as in? Too weak to preserve mass? I've never had problems cutting on things like andro series... Of course you know the compound itself won't drop the fat...

 

[dvw]

Alpha Gainz Stano pills form, at 600 mg for 6 weeks is good cut cycle for whats available. I would eat a surplus on msten to gain not lose lbs

 

[georgetown]

Alpha Gainz Stano pills form, at 600 mg for 6 weeks is good cut cycle for whats available. I would eat a surplus on msten to gain not lose lbs

Im looking at more of a recomp in appearance wise so i will have carbs between 100-200 with a carb up once a week or longer depending on how it goes

If i need to i can play with lower fats high carbs, it seems from you gus msten is very carb dependent so i will keep them high but if my calories are set a bit lower i belive this cycle should successfully have a recomp effect. Somebody please correct me if im wrong

 

[hvactech]

Im looking at more of a recomp in appearance wise so i will have carbs between 100-200 with a carb up once a week or longer depending on how it goes

If i need to i can play with lower fats high carbs, it seems from you gus msten is very carb dependent so i will keep them high but if my calories are set a bit lower i belive this cycle should successfully have a recomp effect. Somebody please correct me if im wrong

Just run a small surplus with a lower carb count and have a split week carb day... Preferably on heavy training days... Worst case scenerio you somewhat bulk and then cut later... Don't over think it ��
That's what I'd do if I wanted to recomp on sten without sacrificing carbs

 

[dvw]

diet is king man regardless of compound, find out lean body mass multiply times two for protein intake and stay on moderate carbs and youll recomp regardless what you take.

 

[hvactech]

Then again I run 250-300 carb while cutting at 150lbs

 

[georgetown]

Sounds good really appreciate it guys

 

[warbird01]

Msten is great on a cut. I ran it at an insane deficit and still gained strength.

 

[georgetown]

Msten is great on a cut. I ran it at an insane deficit and still gained strength.

How were your carbs? Mass gain?

 

[hvactech]

How were your carbs? Mass gain?

He only ate cookie crisp and hot pockets

 

[georgetown]

He only ate cookie crisp and hot pockets

Not even poptarts?

 

[123abcabcabc]

I'm on a keto diet with 5% carbs and currently am running Msten. Wasn't the best choice lol. I'm definetly preserving mass and strength is shooting up. However, running epistane would have shredded me up and preserved my mass/strength as well.

OP, just save it for when you bulk. Epistane is still easy to get from a domestic source
in the US. If you can't find any, UK online retailers will have it.

 

[georgetown]

I'm on a keto diet with 5% carbs and currently am running Msten. Wasn't the best choice lol. I'm definetly preserving mass and strength is shooting up. However, running epistane would have shredded me up and preserved my mass/strength as well.

OP, just save it for when you bulk. Epistane is still easy to get from a domestic source
in the US. If you can't find any, UK online retailers will have it.

Im running keto now and was going to up carbs again to recomp when i run it in but epistanes an option

 

[criticalbench]

Alpha Gainz Stano pills form, at 600 mg for 6 weeks is good cut cycle for whats available. I would eat a surplus on msten to gain not lose lbs

If that is, what I think it is.. it would be far better. I would go with trest for cutting over m-sten any day.