Msten Bloating

maxmuscle23

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How many people have been bloated from msten? I want to use something for a lean summer bulk and Im thinking msten but there are a lot of people saying they get bloated from it. Why do people get bloated if it doesn't aromatize?

I do have some DMZ that I could use instead but I was actually planning on bridging msten into DMZ.
 
I've seen some who say it causes them bloat/water retention , not exactly sure , if I were you I'd run the dmz based on your goals , very dry and lean compound so should fit perfectly
 
Never heard of bloating on msten. It's pretty ****ing dry IMO. DON'T STACK IT WITH EPISTANE. Way too harsh.
 
So do you guys think arimistane in Arimicare is enough to ward off any estro sides or should I just use aromasin from the get go
 
maxmuscle23 said:
So do you guys think arimistane in Arimicare is enough to ward off any estro sides or should I just use aromasin from the get go
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Have exemestane on hand and only use if you get high estrogen sides. Armicare pro should have you covered but a backup plan is nice to have on hand
 
maybe0123 said:
You could stack it with epi at a conservative dose or up the epi dose and lower the msten.
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Gotta say this is a terrible idea. Msten is brutal on the liver as it is and epi is tough itself. Stacking them is just asking for serious trouble. Especially since there's no need as an ai would be much safer
 
booneman77 said:
Gotta say this is a terrible idea. Msten is brutal on the liver as it is and epi is tough itself. Stacking them is just asking for serious trouble. Especially since there's no need as an ai would be much safer
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Super dmz 2.0 and 3.0 or both stacks with msten what makes epi any different?
 
maybe0123 said:
Super dmz 2.0 and 3.0 or both stacks with msten what makes epi any different?
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And who said those were good??? Stacking multiple methyla is just asking for liver problems IMO.

There plenty of stupidly stacked ph's out there but that doesn't make them good products
 
booneman77 said:
And who said those were good??? Stacking multiple methyla is just asking for liver problems IMO.

There plenty of stupidly stacked ph's out there but that doesn't make them good products
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I hear ya I guess it just comes down to pre and post blood work to know how the individuals body copes with liver stress.
 
maybe0123 said:
I hear ya I guess it just comes down to pre and post blood work to know how the individuals body copes with liver stress.
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Yep totally agree. Some people can prob handle it with adequate supports, but I'd venture a guess that many would really take a beating.

And too many people don't run bloods to safely suggest it.
 
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