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Most reliable AI while taking Epistane?

Masciaman

Masciaman

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Planning on taking Epistane solo for about 5 weeks around 30 mg a day, and tamoxifen as my pct, but just to stay safe i also want to take a pretty reliable AI while i'm on cycle just to prevent bad things from happening.. any suggestions? I don't want something that could possibly effect my gains, going for as much mass as possible. Still debating also whether I want to take Epi solo or with something like bold? Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 
ok so now im thinking about taking a 4-5 week cycle of Epi and P-Plex (not sure of the dosages per day) and as an AI taking cycle support and AX perfect cycle then as my PCT tamoxifen. good or bad idea?
 
from what i understand, epistane actually functions as an AI so running another one on cycle isn't necessary, but you may want one during PCT to prevent rebound gyno.

pretty sure cycle support/perfect cycle are not AI's. i've been considering Erase, but i'm not sure how effective it is.
 
scroogemcduck said:
from what i understand, epistane actually functions as an AI so running another one on cycle isn't necessary, but you may want one during PCT to prevent rebound gyno.

pretty sure cycle support/perfect cycle are not AI's. i've been considering Erase, but i'm not sure how effective it is.
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^^^^ Epi generally doesn't nedd an ai alongside it
 
i just need a legit place to buy my pct serm im just afraid of scams:(
 
Masciaman said:
i just need a legit place to buy my pct serm im just afraid of scams:(
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Giving sources for research chemicals are against board rules here bud ;)
 
bigbumpkin said:
^^^^ Epi generally doesn't nedd an ai alongside it
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That is correct. Don't use an AI with EPI. Your estrogen will be low enough as is. You can low dose in PCT if you want to
 
i appreciate the comments guys but just wondering.. i know its against the rules give out websites that sell stuff etc. but im just wondering how did you guys FIND legit websites when you first started out? like how did you know you werent getting scammed on some bs website
 
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RickRock13 said:
That is correct. Don't use an AI with EPI. Your estrogen will be low enough as is. You can low dose in PCT if you want to
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Hi, I'm 40 and after much consternation about taking a PH, I finally decided to go with EPI by SSL. I've done a lot or research, but after reading so many different opinions, I feel more confused than before. Can you reccomend a couple things so I do this right?
1) I'm taking a liver supplement during cycle along with all my regular supps, ie: zma, fish oil, multi vit, glutamine, etc. Is there anything else I should take during cycle? If so, what specific product.
2) What should I take after cycle? The guy at Nutrishop says I only need a product called Testanon. Do I need to take a separate AI or something like Nolva also? Not sure and I want to do it safely.
I really appreciate the help. If you recommend something, can you give me the specific name, there are so many options out there.

Dean
 
Dgold, start your own thread.

OP, no one is going to tell you how to exactly find a research site, all we can say is google is your friend. Nor can we just pm you a site.


If your worried about fake or BS stuff do some research on the company, or find another fourm that allows sources. If i were you Id just buy some topical formestane, like forma stanzol. Its legal and sold at mr supps dot com.
 
RickRock13 said:
That is correct. Don't use an AI with EPI. Your estrogen will be low enough as is. You can low dose in PCT if you want to
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I also agree with this. Epi will crush your estrogen; an AI will only make matters (aka your joints) worse. Epi has AI and SERM like properties which is why PCT after an epi cycle is usually pretty easy. My libido was through the roof on epi.
 
ok thanks so should i not even use my bottle of erase during my pct?
 
Seriusly confusing. Some say use serm and AI, others say serm and AI will be harsher on your body than not taking them. Obviously every PH is different. Plus, isn't a serm an AI anyway. Don't they do somewhat the same thing?
 
I just started and Epi and trenazone cycle...
On cycle use a cycle support with your other sups to help control blood pressure and liver toxicity.

What happens after cycle is that your body has been used to having so much added androgenic substances in the blood that the testis "think" that they don't need to produce testosterone. So your testis atrophe or shut down. Once you stop taking these supps your natural test will take time to build back up so the use of a SERM is used to prevent estrogen from binding with receptors in the body and causing adverse effects.
An AI on the other hand, an aromatase inhibitor, blocks the natural ability testosterone has to convert to estrogen, because as your natural test levels rise, naturally a portion (up to 40%) can convert to estrogen...

Which leads me o my last point... Throw a natural test booster in your PCT I'm using titanium XT and DAA.

Good luck!
 
So are you saying skip the AI an go with a serm. I've heard that EPI alone has serm-like effects and also acts like an anti-estrogen. Some even take it to fight gyno. With that said, I want to take a nat test booster, and a serm or AI ONLY if needed for my pct. Sorry for additional questions, just want to do it right.
 
I wouldn't skip out on anything, every body is different... When they say it has anti estrogen effects, it just means that Epi doesn't aromatize easily, making it less likely to convert to estrogen... So no an AI on cycle wouldn't do too much. I would have it handy for pct though because as you use the serm and begin producing natural testosterone you become sharp table to estrogen rebound which the AI helps fight off
 
Id have an ai on hand just in case. Ive read enough posts on here of people getting gyno from epi and halo cycles. Not sure how though..just be safe and get some.
 
I had some gyno issues on my last epi cycle. I ran formabolic and it cleared up in a couple of weeks and is still gone. I'd recommend any topical formestane product. Formeron and formabolic are my two favorite. I find formabolic easier to dose.
 
Swolljaboi said:
I had some gyno issues on my last epi cycle. I ran formabolic and it cleared up in a couple of weeks and is still gone. I'd recommend any topical formestane product. Formeron and formabolic are my two favorite. I find formabolic easier to dose.
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how to run suicidal ai like formestane with a non aromatizing ph like epi without crashing estrogen?
 
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