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Stumbled upon this, Looks like more people have been found guilty when tested.

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shady business' gonna be shady. The whole supplement industry is shady as they are safe to sell until PROVEN illegal
 
Who is the source? I remember PA saying you could find trace amounts of a lot of things that would have almost zero effect (because the amounts are so small).
 
Here it is when the same methylclostebol was said to be in Versa-1 and BPI Anabolic Elite

"it appears to me that they did all these tests without proper handling of samples and instruments and everything just ended up getting contaminated (if you dont clean stuff well between sample preps and runs you will have ghost peaks in everything). And knowing usada they dont care, and they probably are more than happy to post fautly information to cause confusion amoungst athletes regarding supplements."

Patrick Arnold.
 
In other words inconclusive.

The PR-XT one is really out there
Would have been a lot of contamination for 8 compounds
 
So much talk on them lately I'd like more info on the process and why the consensus is that it was cross-contaminated,
 
Just saw the whole list. Not sure what to think. Blackstone Labs Razors Edge has a ton of banned anabolic stuff in it. Anybody ever try it?
 
Driven2lift said:
So much talk on them lately I'd like more info on the process and why the consensus is that it was cross-contaminated,
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There's also cocaine on the dollar bills in your wallet.

And both that fact and the fact that these tests allege the presence of things like methylclostebol in a frighteningly high number of supplements are equally likely (not likely at all) to present any meaningful data.
 
hmmmm very interesting great find, am interested to see if any more pop up
 
I would imagine that in a lot of facilities that make multiple products the chance of cross contamination from airborne chemicals would be high. Those chemicals would only exist in trace amounts but they might still show up on tests.
 
De__eB said:
There's also cocaine on the dollar bills in your wallet.

And both that fact and the fact that these tests allege the presence of things like methylclostebol in a frighteningly high number of supplements are equally likely (not likely at all) to present any meaningful data.
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Is the testing done by USADA?
 
De__eB said:
There's also cocaine on the dollar bills in your wallet.

And both that fact and the fact that these tests allege the presence of things like methylclostebol in a frighteningly high number of supplements are equally likely (not likely at all) to present any meaningful data.
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Ding Ding Ding.

But who wants to actually use logic when stuff like this pops up? It's much easier just to start the witch hunt and spew hate at companies.
 
Admin said:
Here it is when the same methylclostebol was said to be in Versa-1 and BPI Anabolic Elite

"it appears to me that they did all these tests without proper handling of samples and instruments and everything just ended up getting contaminated (if you dont clean stuff well between sample preps and runs you will have ghost peaks in everything). And knowing usada they dont care, and they probably are more than happy to post fautly information to cause confusion amoungst athletes regarding supplements."

Patrick Arnold.
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but yet the fda allows for cross contamination of highly allergic substances like peanuts and shellfish. to me this is a much higher public health risk than banned substances as only a small amount is enough to cause a severe reaction in those who are allergic to them-all the fda requires is a small disclaimer hidden at bottom of label.
 
De__eB said:
There's also cocaine on the dollar bills in your wallet.

And both that fact and the fact that these tests allege the presence of things like methylclostebol in a frighteningly high number of supplements are equally likely (not likely at all) to present any meaningful data.
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When I seen numerous companies testing hot for the same thing I knew it was TomFoolery
 
BigGame84 said:
Just saw the whole list. Not sure what to think. Blackstone Labs Razors Edge has a ton of banned anabolic stuff in it. Anybody ever try it?
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It's amazing, got me through final exams last week... Very similar to a familiar Rx stimulant, commonly used to treat ADHD ;-)
 
De__eB said:
It's from the high risk supplement list site that the USADA has
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Supplement411 .org/hrl/

This has the complete list that I saw, you can enter any information in the required fields and it takes you to the complete list.

It's underwhelming though considering over half of the list is products on there for "listed" but "banned" ingredients like amp and higenamine.

But there are still a ton that were hot for things that shouldn't be there.

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Guess I can't post links or pics til 5000 posts? Is this real life?
 
Test are bogus? That sucks. I was about to stock up on that man sports one.
Saw that and was like, hell to the yea!
Steroids in my supplements ftw. :smoker:
 
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