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crowpass said:
the reason they one is larger and is lower is for the reasons:... when you walk the two testes do not hit each other. pre-Med buddy. thats kinda a lame reason i know but appearantly what they are teaching is true.
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sounds like a good deal then :thumbsup: i owe you some reps
 
my right nut hangs lower than the left and its the larger one. speaking of nuts, when my lady is riding me reverse cowgirl, or im hitting it from the back while she's on her stomach my left nut goes up into my body cavity, I actually asked my mother and doctor about this and they stated that if it is up there all the it can be a sign of testicular cancer down the road. just an fyi, but thankfully it only happens when my **** is bein grinded to the bone.
 
crowpass said:
my right nut hangs lower than the left and its the larger one. speaking of nuts, when my lady is riding me reverse cowgirl, or im hitting it from the back while she's on her stomach my left nut goes up into my body cavity, I actually asked my mother and doctor about this and they stated that if it is up there all the it can be a sign of testicular cancer down the road. just an fyi, but thankfully it only happens when my **** is bein grinded to the bone.
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damn i want to get some of that grindation, let me know if you need me to sub in :lol: :whip:
you asked :bling1: about it? thats kinda weird :crazy:
 
haha, I donno about the going up into the body thing...thats sound F*cked up.

This really isn't that big of a deal...I just came across enough horrifying info about having minor Verococele's and not knowing it/how it pertains to test and steroids. So I might as well get a damn physical and the beginning of a real cycle, and then I'm popping M-Drol or Stopping M-Drol. Let you know soon.

BTW Ill start a new thread this one is just a sh*t loaf.
 
pistonpump said:
getting a physical soon would be good but getting a full blood test prior to a cycle would be even better.
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I actually planned on it, but then decided I'd save the money for after this suppressive cycle as I felt great, and plan on taking 6-8 months off.
 
Just got back from doctor.

He said left testicle veins are slightly more prominent than the right, and that this is a variance that he would consider normal and not worry about. He clarified that it is a very minor varicocele, but he did a the cough test and said it he didn't really notice much and that will not lead to lack of blood flow/atrophy/and decreased test. He the went on to say that I should only worry if I had pain, swelling, aches. I just hope theres no hidden drop in LH or something. Well I have it, but I'm glad to know its not the cause of a smaller testicle. So i guess I will continue with the cycle and hope any atrophy on cycle will return with toremifene.
 
Day 2: Superdrol 10mg Pheraplex 10mg

Took pills at 1:00pm today.

Its now 5:00, I just did a few sets up chin-ups, and neutral grip pullups, along with a few sets of pushup.

Getting a very noticeable pump and warmth feeling that stays for a long time. My abs are slightly more visible and hard.

Lips, eyes, skin, starting to feel dry and body starting to feel fuller. Something is going on I think....:sigh1:

I'm waiting for my elbow to start killing me, I doubled up on my liquid glucosamine, and am now taking 5-6 grams of Cissus.

Anything else I can do?

I take 6-8 grams of fish oil...should I up it to 15-20?


P.S. I had a shitty 3pt BF% test today...came out to 13.2%. Trainer said readings can be off +/- 3%
 
why are you running the PP at 10mg still id you switched over to SD? finishing up the bridge? Good luck with this man. Take it easy and just chill. If you dont gain who cares.... you can get around 3-4 cycles of Mdrol at 10mg for 3 weeks on one bottle so its not a loss if nothing happens. Just chill and enjoy the workouts. You should grow no matter what with your diet.

I am curious about stretch marks on you though... do you have any with that rapid weight gain?
 
the rules be a breaking....

MOD? MODDDDD?????? where are you guys? lol jk

bf% tests are just reference points, you can use them as that but it will never tell you the real amount of bf, all types of tests have their flaws the only real way to know is by dissection.
 
TexasLifter89 said:
why are you running the PP at 10mg still id you switched over to SD? finishing up the bridge? Good luck with this man. Take it easy and just chill. If you dont gain who cares.... you can get around 3-4 cycles of Mdrol at 10mg for 3 weeks on one bottle so its not a loss if nothing happens. Just chill and enjoy the workouts. You should grow no matter what with your diet.

I am curious about stretch marks on you though... do you have any with that rapid weight gain?
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I have some major deep canyon like stretch marks at the upper corners of my pecs/biceps. These babies look like they are going to bleed.

Then I have a good amount on my left bicep on the peak that look disgusting, popped up a week before I started PP....then i have a few under my triceps on each arm, particularly my left one...and then a some mild marks at the top corners of my back.

I also have some around the top of my thighs.....


I'm using cocoa butter and stretch mark cream like maderma regularly but it doesn't do sh*t when you gain inches on you arms,chest,back,legs in a year.
 
monsterbox said:
I have some major deep canyon like stretch marks at the upper corners of my pecs/biceps. These babies look like they are going to bleed.

Then I have a good amount on my left bicep on the peak that look disgusting, popped up a week before I started PP....then i have a few under my triceps on each arm, particularly my left one...and then a some mild marks at the top corners of my back.

I also have some around the top of my thighs.....


I'm using cocoa butter and stretch mark cream like maderma regularly but it doesn't do sh*t when you gain inches on you arms,chest,back,legs in a year.
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try out RPN flawless. I used it and it helped fade them out color wise. The smell though was quite potent. It is supposed to be fixed scent wise though. To me it worked quite well... maybe look into that? you can see mine in my avi on my armpit area, thats about the only place I have them...
 
Day 3: Monster-Drol

Ok...first of all this makes P-Plex look like birthcontrol. Its not my damn receptors or my diet!

I've been taking only 1 pill for the past 3 days at 12pm.

- Noticably increased definition
- Dryer lips/skin and pissing/shitting more. Upping my water intake.
- Lost 1.5lbs on average on the scale <<<this is okay because its probably water from being a normal human and m-drol beginning to turn me into a cyclops.

-feeling pumped all day like creatine
-feeling of warmth/slight nervousness/stimulation
-more blood flow/redness in the gym

Side Effects:
-bit of insomnia...not ready to declare it yet as it could be placebo. I love my melatonin but i've used it before and don't want to form habit
-feel "out of it" "disoriented"...kind of like coming down from a high. I just feel different. Like waking up after a strange dream and feeling eerie the whole day.


Part of me can't wait for the gains and part of me is saying "WTF ARE YOU DOING TOUCHING M-DROL?? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR MANBOOBS AND NO BALLS?":frustrate
 
lol, don't be afraid of it, sounds like it's working good. This stuff makes monsters, just add food.
 
UnrealMachine said:
lol, don't be afraid of it, sounds like it's working good. This stuff makes monsters, just add food.
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just hope I don't have a monster "box" as in a monster wet pussy when its over from the shutdown:nana:


btw. If I maintain at around 4k calories, how much should I be eating on M-Drol? I'm looking to put on some weight but I wouldn't mind it being all LBM either? Should I try to hit up 2.5g protein/lb?
 
monsterbox said:
haha, I donno about the going up into the body thing...thats sound F*cked up.

This really isn't that big of a deal...I just came across enough horrifying info about having minor Verococele's and not knowing it/how it pertains to test and steroids. So I might as well get a damn physical and the beginning of a real cycle, and then I'm popping M-Drol or Stopping M-Drol. Let you know soon.

BTW Ill start a new thread this one is just a sh*t loaf.
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I've been a strong lurk. Since your past threads of post cycle pics and such. I'm a fan. You're a good BBer. My thoughts on the matter of this cycle **** is, take a damn break bro. You're probably not responding because you've cycled so frequently this year.

I could be wrong and would be glad to hear you've been doing the "time on=time off" policy. I've never heard of any CEL's **** being crap except their m14ad's.



And yea this thread is full of fail.
 
Ironpounder33 said:
I've been a strong lurk. Since your past threads of post cycle pics and such. I'm a fan. You're a good BBer. My thoughts on the matter of this cycle **** is, take a damn break bro. You're probably not responding because you've cycled so frequently this year.

I could be wrong and would be glad to hear you've been doing the "time on=time off" policy. I've never heard of any CEL's **** being crap except their m14ad's.



And yea this thread is full of fail.
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i've done more than the time on=time off.

I ran my first cycle of havoc for 4 week last april. I ran my next cycle for 3 weeks in september last year. Its now january.
 
Day 4 Off Day

Seems like the anxiety/strangeness has subsided. I felt pretty normal today, just harder body than usual and easier to pump up.

BP checks out just fine, actually still lower than normal.

Should I go ahead and bump this up to 20mg? Is it going to build up any more at 10mg....I'm thinking take 10mg tommorrow morning and then 10mg pre-workout :)

Weight: 183.5 +1.5lbs
 
monsterbox said:
Seems like the anxiety/strangeness has subsided. I felt pretty normal today, just harder body than usual and easier to pump up.

BP checks out just fine, actually still lower than normal.

Should I go ahead and bump this up to 20mg? Is it going to build up any more at 10mg....I'm thinking take 10mg tommorrow morning and then 10mg pre-workout :)
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I've been following your log, but haven't posted much..
How long you gonna run the Mdrol? 3 or 4 weeks?
Couple things..

SD is a diuretic from what i've read.. when you go on, it makes you want to piss your fluids out.. pound the water.. at least 1 gallon a day..
the weight you said you lost was prolly you pissing out fluid..

You can make gains at 10 mgs.. SD is a active PS, there is no conversion..
20 mgs is prolly as high as a guy our size needs to ever go.. you eat a
sh!tload of food, so just go heavy on the carbs.. SD loves the carbs.. heavy on the EFA's as SD is hard on the lipids.. 10,000K of fish oil a day..

This sucker is stronger than any thing you've ran.. you've been proven to train hard and eat... you should blow the fcuk up.. the whole PPlex crap you went thru isn't soon gonna matter..
 
Don't bump it yet. No need to, SD is very strong 10mg is very potent. My weight started skyrocketing immediately. If it's not, then up the carbs. And make sure you're getting PLENTY of fluids.
(just say that DLM has mentioned the same thing. it's important)
 
UnrealMachine said:
Don't bump it yet. No need to, SD is very strong 10mg is very potent. My weight started skyrocketing immediately. If it's not, then up the carbs. And make sure you're getting PLENTY of fluids.
(just say that DLM has mentioned the same thing. it's important)
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:notworthy:
You've run it, so you would know..
I've just read up on it, but when I run it...
carbs and fliuds.. :rocketwhore:
 
Ok well, I've been pounding the fluids and the EFA's. I take in at least 8-10g of fish oil per day everyday since I was diagnosed with elbow problem.

I have been pissing like crazy, one concerning thing is my pee is always yellow, no matter how much water a drink it has a yellow tint.

I'm also taking liv 52 at night and 2000mg of milk thistle at night.


NEW WEIGHT! 183.5lbs tonight with no clothes on fresh out of the shower! I look bigger/harder in the mirror (its probably the glycogen storage weight)

So far this feels just as great as havoc at day 4!
 
superdrol blows havoc out the water as far as lbm gains are concerned but itll also make you feel like crap. First time i used it i had to stop early it killed my appetite and made me feel sick within the first week. keep the dose at 10mg man, dont get anxious 10mg should be enough for you for at least the first week or two, maybe three. ITs really that strong. I would advise using niacin during the evening for HDL LDL levels.
 
pistonpump said:
superdrol blows havoc out the water as far as lbm gains are concerned but itll also make you feel like crap. First time i used it i had to stop early it killed my appetite and made me feel sick within the first week. keep the dose at 10mg man, dont get anxious 10mg should be enough for you for at least the first week or two, maybe three. ITs really that strong. I would advise using niacin during the evening for HDL LDL levels.
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how do you dose niacin? Also what are the EFA's? That's just what's in my cycle support right? I'm on day 2 of my Superdrol run.
 
angel77 said:
how do you dose niacin? Also what are the EFA's? That's just what's in my cycle support right? I'm on day 2 of my Superdrol run.
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Bro I can't help you on the nicain dose, that's a new one for me. I'll have to pay attention and learn that one too..
But the EFA's..
Essential Fatty Acids.. those are the good fats your body needs.. Omegas..
Thus you do the 8K to 10K of fish oil..
I've also seen on top of that the Extra Virgin Oilive Oil, plus the EV Coconut Oil..
EVVO at 2 tablespoons = 28 grams of fat..
SD has been shown thur bro's blood work to be super hard on the lipid profiles. so guys pound down the EFA's..
Plus i've read if your lipids are are outta wack you won't make the best gains you can..
Cycle support is good, but you need to add in other supps..
Search sumthing like "SD logs" or "SD results".. you'll find out some more info, maybe you'll find that nician dosing and throw it my way..:approve:
 
DLM5 said:
Bro I can't help you on the nicain dose, that's a new one for me. I'll have to pay attention and learn that one too..
But the EFA's..
Essential Fatty Acids.. those are the good fats your body needs.. Omegas's..
Thus you do the 8K to 10K of fish oil..
I've also seen on top of that the Extra Virgin Oilive Oil, plus the EV Coconut Oil..
EVVO at 2 tablespoons = 28 grams of fat..
SD has been shown thur bro's blood work to be super hard on the lipid profiles. so guys pound down the EFA's..
Plus i've read if your lipids are are outta wack you won't make the best gains you can..
Cycle support is good, but you need to add in other supps..
Search sumthing like "SD logs" or "SD results".. you'll find out some more info, maybe you'll find that nician dosing and throw it my way..:approve:
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I'm all over it already. I always kill the Fish Oil, Olive Oil, Natty PB. I should be in great shape. I just wasn't familiar with them being referred to as EFA's. Got it now!!!
 
monsterbox said:
NEW WEIGHT! 183.5lbs tonight with no clothes on fresh out of the shower! I look bigger/harder in the mirror (its probably the glycogen storage weight)

So far this feels just as great as havoc at day 4!
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I'm really interested to see how your strength gains progress.. They should explode..
 
Day 5: GOD MODE

OMFG - REDICULOUS!!!

I woke up this morning feeling jacked as hell.

Took my 10mg at lunch with lots of extra carbs and had 3 bananas throughout the day.

I took 400mg of caffeine because I wasn't feeling motivated and went to the gym.

I walked in, did a set of neutral grip pullups, and my arms turned into BOMBS. Absolutely sick as hell pump. My brains thought that I was WAY WAY stronger than I was...I felt like I could just break everything in sight. I had this strange never felt feeling that No Weight was Too Much...I looked at plates on the racks and though I could just do anything.

PR's on every single damn thing with extra sets.

Added 50lbs to one of my back machines, curled 90lbs for 3 sets of 8 straight bar for the first time. Performed multiple sets of hammer curls with cables, tons of different back excerises. After each set I felt like I hadn't even worked the muscle. This simply feels like cheating...feels like when you buy a new video game and give up and put on the cheat codes...its like you just ruined all the fun!

PUMP were REDICULOUS. Never experienced this on anything except havoc my first time. I could see the actual texture of my biceps like rough concrete sliding under translucent skin! Everyone was starring at me like WTF, that guy is on some serious sh*t

New Weight: 186.5 +4.5lbs (drank alot of water today tho)

Sides: nothing really except my nuts seems softer/smushier. I'm concerned they are going to start shrinking like major at this rate. Are shrunken nuts and indicator that PCT is going to be way harder? This really truly concerns me...anything involving noticeable atrophy really freaks me out, I need somone to calm me down. Like what if they become grapes, should I worry and stop?
 
monsterbox said:
OMFG - REDICULOUS!!!

I woke up this morning feeling jacked as hell.

Took my 10mg at lunch with lots of extra carbs and had 3 bananas throughout the day.

I took 400mg of caffeine because I wasn't feeling motivated and went to the gym.

I walked in, did a set of neutral grip pullups, and my arms turned into BOMBS. Absolutely sick as hell pump. My brains thought that I was WAY WAY stronger than I was...I felt like I could just break everything in sight. I had this strange never felt feeling that No Weight was Too Much...I looked at plates on the racks and though I could just do anything.

PR's on every single damn thing with extra sets.

Added 50lbs to one of my back machines, curled 90lbs for 3 sets of 8 straight bar for the first time. Performed multiple sets of hammer curls with cables, tons of different back excerises. After each set I felt like I hadn't even worked the muscle. This simply feels like cheating...feels like when you buy a new video game and give up and put on the cheat codes...its like you just ruined all the fun!

PUMP were REDICULOUS. Never experienced this on anything except havoc my first time. I could see the actual texture of my biceps like rough concrete sliding under translucent skin! Everyone was starring at me like WTF, that guy is on some serious sh*t

New Weight: 186.5 +4.5lbs (drank alot of water today tho)

Sides: nothing really except my nuts seems softer/smushier. I'm concerned they are going to start shrinking like major at this rate. Are shrunken nuts and indicator that PCT is going to be way harder? This really truly concerns me...anything involving noticeable atrophy really freaks me out, I need somone to calm me down. Like what if they become grapes, should I worry and stop?
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interesting! I'll be reading this thread more often :)
 
monsterbox said:
OMFG - REDICULOUS!!!

I woke up this morning feeling jacked as hell.

Took my 10mg at lunch with lots of extra carbs and had 3 bananas throughout the day.

I took 400mg of caffeine because I wasn't feeling motivated and went to the gym.

I walked in, did a set of neutral grip pullups, and my arms turned into BOMBS. Absolutely sick as hell pump. My brains thought that I was WAY WAY stronger than I was...I felt like I could just break everything in sight. I had this strange never felt feeling that No Weight was Too Much...I looked at plates on the racks and though I could just do anything.

PR's on every single damn thing with extra sets.

Added 50lbs to one of my back machines, curled 90lbs for 3 sets of 8 straight bar for the first time. Performed multiple sets of hammer curls with cables, tons of different back excerises. After each set I felt like I hadn't even worked the muscle. This simply feels like cheating...feels like when you buy a new video game and give up and put on the cheat codes...its like you just ruined all the fun!

PUMP were REDICULOUS. Never experienced this on anything except havoc my first time. I could see the actual texture of my biceps like rough concrete sliding under translucent skin! Everyone was starring at me like WTF, that guy is on some serious sh*t

New Weight: 186.5 +4.5lbs (drank alot of water today tho)

Sides: nothing really except my nuts seems softer/smushier. I'm concerned they are going to start shrinking like major at this rate. Are shrunken nuts and indicator that PCT is going to be way harder? This really truly concerns me...anything involving noticeable atrophy really freaks me out, I need somone to calm me down. Like what if they become grapes, should I worry and stop?
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Remember that superdrol as well as P-plex effect BP....watch your BP fairly regularly. I wouldn't advize dosing too much stims...Just My 2 Cents
 
well considering how strong this stuff is, and I KNOW that it works insanely for me, I may just run 10-12 days to make these 3-4lbs solid, and come back to another full cycle this summer or later this year.

I just don't see the need to run 21+days after running phera for 3 weeks. (because I don't know if phera was harsh on the hpta/liver functions) I pretty much know this stuff works, I really don't want to think that i've put my liver through 6-7 weeks of methyls.
 
Glad that M-Drol seems to be working for you. You obviously work hard and it sucks that the gains didn't come with teh P-Plex. I know you have been wanting to try Super for a while, but stayed away due to gyno concerns. I know you have your PCT covered so you should have no issues there.
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
Glad that M-Drol seems to be working for you. You obviously work hard and it sucks that the gains didn't come with teh P-Plex. I know you have been wanting to try Super for a while, but stayed away due to gyno concerns. I know you have your PCT covered so you should have no issues there.
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well Ill see how much shutdown occurs between now and week 2...I'm kinda worried about the delayed gyno/shutdown if I continue this for too long like full cycle its strong as SH*T. I actually feel flu symptoms at night if I stay up to long without eating lol.

Superdrol = :notworthy::notworthy: bow down to it!


About the delayed gyno, Ive just read some crazy as threads saying its related to taking AI during PCT.

What bout:
Tore 120/60/60/30
Reversitol (contains 2 ai's) - 0/0/3/2/2/2/1

Maybe order some 6oxo and continue it for another month after pct? would this help prevent estrogen rebound? Or maybe order more toremifene and dose it at 30 for anther 4 weeks. I dont want this post cycle post pct gyno bullsh*t. It already sounds way overblown but I def. can't be fighting with letrozole etc...not worth it
 
honestly.. i would use novladex if u have gyno problems.. i know u have torem and its supposed to be all good.. basically the same... but i know 3 ppl .. one of them is me .. who got a little gyno at the end of a cycle.. then proceeded to use torem pct.. which worked fantastic for picking up sex drive and bringing the boys back.. but didnt work so well with the gyno.. i proceeded to order nolvadex from the same company i got the torem from after using torem for two weeks, 2 days after using the nolva.. my nips looked alot better.. all i can conclude from this is for gyno problems/concerns novla is tried and true.. torem made me feel like a god in the bedroom.. i havent been that horny since puberty.. but not really much of a reduction w/gyno.. i mean take what u want from this.. maybe my torem was underdosed, who knows? but nolva from the same company did the job
 
bigzach1234 said:
honestly.. i would use novladex if u have gyno problems.. i know u have torem and its supposed to be all good.. basically the same... but i know 3 ppl .. one of them is me .. who got a little gyno at the end of a cycle.. then proceeded to use torem pct.. which worked fantastic for picking up sex drive and bringing the boys back.. but didnt work so well with the gyno.. i proceeded to order nolvadex from the same company i got the torem from after using torem for two weeks, 2 days after using the nolva.. my nips looked alot better.. all i can conclude from this is for gyno problems/concerns novla is tried and true.. torem made me feel like a god in the bedroom.. i havent been that horny since puberty.. but not really much of a reduction w/gyno.. i mean take what u want from this.. maybe my torem was underdosed, who knows? but nolva from the same company did the job
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well I have both already....I planned on using toremifene first as it stimulates the HPTA better than Nolva and doesn't upregulate PR.

Are you saying that you already developed gyno before starting PCT? Well if you had already developed gyno, nolva is about the only SERM that will really work besides using an AI like Letrozole for treating already existing gyno..but wouldn't toremifene block the receptors just as well as nolvadex to PREVENT it?

And were you referring to a SD cycle?



I currently do not have any gyno problems and never have had any, I'm really not worried about developing it "On" cycle...or in PCT, I'm worried about AFTER pct.
 
But thats good your responging to s-drol. It scares me though, ive read some pretty shady things about it. keep hitting it hard bro.
 
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