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Mono creatine after formeron

Beefeater71

Beefeater71

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What results should I see on Creatine after being on formeron (3 bottles, 4 pumps a day)? I'm off Formeron (off cycle). Hoping to gain some weight on mono creatine prior beginning formeron later this year again.
 
In regards to your question. Any weight gain from Creatine is only water being pushed into your muscles.
Creatine doesn't add any lean muscle mass to your body. It makes your muscles appear fuller and it
enhances the bodies ability to perform high intensity exercise which ultimately should add more muscle
if your diet and training regimen are on point.

Also, I believe Formeron is slightly suppressive at 4 pumps per day.
You will probably need to run PCT for 4 weeks to get your Natural Test working again.
 
Formeron can be used FOR PCT.

So far I have never seen a case where there was evidence of suppression at any dose.
No bloodwork
No studies
Nothing. Just guys guessing and saying whatever comes to mind because there is 0 evidence.

I expect eventually there will be suppression but not at 300mg transdermally. 800-1000+ perhaps and even then you could just lower the dose and stay on Formeron for PCT.


Its true that Creating just gives you weight gain from intracellular water retention.
This helps with strength and there is some interaction with energy stores/ATP.

I use creatine but....it doesnt seem to work anymore for me. The first time I used it I gained some weight but now...nothing.
Also some people never respond. If you do I would combine it with other things to make for a more successful cycle.

Creatine
Follidrone.
Would be a great cycle.
 
Brundel..

I didnt mean to give out bad info. I thought it had been mentioned on the Formeron FAQ Thread
that it was suppressive at higher doses... I was under the impression that when you started dosing
it higher, it went from being an AI to working like a PH seeing it converts to hydroxytest 4-OHT.
 
vujade said:
Brundel..

I didnt mean to give out bad info. I thought it had been mentioned on the Formeron FAQ Thread
that it was suppressive at higher doses... I was under the impression that when you started dosing
it higher, it went from being an AI to working like a PH seeing it converts to hydroxytest 4-OHT.
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No worries bud :)
It does convert to hydroxytest. Ive seen bloodwork from more than 1 guy running 4+ pumps and test levels were sky high. Above normal reference range.
Again..at some point Im sure the hydroxytest will become more suppressive % than the % For potential increase.
We have to remember than AI's increase test levels so...even if there is some suppression the potential for increase wins out.

It used to be believed that if a steroid wasnt aromatizable it wasnt suppressive because it was believed that high estrogen was the only means of suppression. We know now this isnt true but thats where the wives tales about taking anavar and winstrol with no PCT came from.

At any rate.....I just got a message a few weeks back from a guy who failed a drug test using 4 pumps of Formeron.
Failed because his test levels were so far above the reference range. He was disqualified.
 
brundel said:
Formeron can be used FOR PCT. So far I have never seen a case where there was evidence of suppression at any dose. No bloodwork No studies Nothing. Just guys guessing and saying whatever comes to mind because there is 0 evidence. I expect eventually there will be suppression but not at 300mg transdermally. 800-1000+ perhaps and even then you could just lower the dose and stay on Formeron for PCT. Its true that Creating just gives you weight gain from intracellular water retention. This helps with strength and there is some interaction with energy stores/ATP. I use creatine but....it doesnt seem to work anymore for me. The first time I used it I gained some weight but now...nothing. Also some people never respond. If you do I would combine it with other things to make for a more successful cycle. Creatine Follidrone. Would be a great cycle.
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Is it safe to go straight onto Follidrone with only being off Formeron for 1-2 weeks?
 
brundel said:
No worries bud :)
It does convert to hydroxytest. Ive seen bloodwork from more than 1 guy running 4+ pumps and test levels were sky high. Above normal reference range.
Again..at some point Im sure the hydroxytest will become more suppressive % than the % For potential increase.
We have to remember than AI's increase test levels so...even if there is some suppression the potential for increase wins out.

It used to be believed that if a steroid wasnt aromatizable it wasnt suppressive because it was believed that high estrogen was the only means of suppression. We know now this isnt true but thats where the wives tales about taking anavar and winstrol with no PCT came from.

At any rate.....I just got a message a few weeks back from a guy who failed a drug test using 4 pumps of Formeron.
Failed because his test levels were so far above the reference range. He was disqualified.
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Any idea what their estrogen came back at, at 4 pumps? The idea appeals to me, but it pretty sensitive to joint pain.
 
Beefeater71 said:
Is it safe to go straight onto Follidrone with only being off Formeron for 1-2 weeks?
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Yes sir.

Formeron itself doesnt require a recovery period because it doesnt negatively impact HPTA.
I know guys who have been on it for several years. Daily no breaks. For HRT estro control of course. Not at 4 pumps.
none the less you dont really need a break you can just go directly to your next chosen objective.

Follidrone also requires no PCT and isnt suppressive so...the same goes for Follidrone.

This is the beauty...well part of the beauty of Follidrone.
The muscle and strength and endurance dont hurt either ;)
 
blacklac said:
Any idea what their estrogen came back at, at 4 pumps? The idea appeals to me, but it pretty sensitive to joint pain.
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No idea to be honest. I assume relatively low, however, 2 things to consider.

1 Formestane doesnt destroy estro like some AI's do. So there will pretty much always be some aromatase remaining.
This is good because it means
2 as test levels rise youll still get a slight estro increase so estro will be in low normal ranges and test levels will rise even above reference range.

Often joint pain is from inflammation as well which can be caused by super low amount of retained water.
This can be counteracted to some degree by adding a little sodium to the diet. Dont go nuts. Just a little salt on the eggs in the morning or something.
Always keep an eye on blood pressure.
 
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