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Yes.Is MA labs located in the USA? Thinking about placing an order after seeing this thread! How long should somatozine be ran for?
Yes.Is MA labs located in the USA? Thinking about placing an order after seeing this thread! How long should somatozine be ran for?
I have used it for months on end . It might dwindle a little but it never stops working
My blood work prove that it’s losses it effectiveness due to aka tolerance build up. Depending on the user. Even the studies back this up.Use test at 500mg a week for months and you will feel like it stopped working, it don't
I am well aware of the actual studies! If you look at tregar thread he’s in the same boat but his tolerance level was a lot better. This show you have everyone is different. Take a look st his thread!There are many people out there who say mk677 loses effectiveness a few weeks in. I'll see if I can find the video of some reputable individuals discussing it.
The hunger pains, insomnia, tiredness disappear after 3-4 weeks which is right about where it loses its effectiveness apparentlyI am well aware of the actual studies! If you look at tregar thread he’s in the same boat but his tolerance level was a lot better. This show you have everyone is different. Take a look st his thread!
People seem to not understand if I’m not constantly above my baseline then what I’m I gaining? Noting. I’m right back to where I started. Best thing for me is to cycle. I’d rather have +153 above my baseline every other month because then I’m gaining something.
What you just mentioned are sides effect and not everyone get those. I did not even have those problems. If you look at the study you would see it losses it effect on IGF-1 levels, GH etc over time aka tolerance build up. That the most important part are those numbers. You want to maintain above your baseline IGF-1 levels and if your not even doing that there there no benefits to running mk-677 for longer periods of time if all your going to do is sit at your normal baseline number. This is why one should do blood work and to monitor your IGF-1.The hunger pains, insomnia, tiredness disappear after 3-4 weeks which is right about where it loses its effectiveness apparently
Are you planning 4 weeks mk677, then switching to CJC for 4 weeks, then MK again etc?
I don't like taking melatonin everyday. I already get a large amount of D3 among other things that's in also Somatozine. With narrows It simple just mk-677 and also dosage a little bit smaller. Price is a bit nicer on narrows. Will test IGF-1 lvls with Narrows just to make sure all is good. Also good to have options.Why try narrows when somatozine worked so well for you ? Just curious
I second this.Would love to see Somatozine without the melatonin be an option.
too bad i dont fucking have 70 dollars to throw for an hgh test every couple of monthsSo we all know there a tolerance level with mk-677 and after while your not as high as you once were. We also know Thyroid problems can also affect said levels. I spoke with my Dr today and we can both agree that for me that TOLERANCE LEVEL was a lot sooner than expected. I was not really expecting that per say, but my blood work etc has shown that. We spoke a bit more on that subject and he did mention longer run of mk-677 or hgh were one is sitting above 300 IGF-1 constantly create problems longer term especially when one get older. He went into detail why, but there a bit too much info to retain. He said cycling perfectly fine and 3 months on is good with 1-2 months off and repeat. I would say 3 months off preferably. So what have we learned is that this tolerance level very greatly by person. I do believe one should be doing IGF-1 test once a month for at least 3 to gain there tolerance level. You need to find that level because it important to see how soon that tolerance level starts, otherwise you would just be wasting mk-677.
For me by the 2nd monthish in I am almost back to my baseline, and by that 3rd month and pretty much there. So I can say that for me one full month on then 1-2 month off is best me and that anything past (1 month on) I'm just wasting my mk-677. That still +153 from my baseline for a solid month. That not mentioning that first week it's even higher.
So to sum things up, find your tolerance level, test for it, and stop your cycle when your at level and then take that 1-2 month of then restart back on your cycle. 3 months on max if what I suggest followed by that 1-2 month off to reset. Hope this info help.
Between me and some friends we done it straight, 5 on 2 off, 2 weeks on 1 week off and all those ways seem to work the sameSo MK677 need to be cycle. Mike Arnold I think suggested to do a 8 on 4 days off protocol, what do you guys think about it?
For me by results. But my boy has blood work that shows igf elevated a week after stopping mk so if it's staying elevated days or a week after you stop it then it would make sense to me that you don't need to run it straight and all of those protocol will make your mk last longer. It was Mike Arnold on a beast fitness radio podcast that said something about this that got me thinking about it and I had already done the 5 on 2 off in the past anyways. From this point out il probably always do 2 weeks on 1 week offwith blood work or by feeling?
Lol it's always confusingDamn now i am confused.
I find as soon as you come off it all pretty much goes back to normal again, however I do check it a few times a weekMy protocol is going to be 5 on 2 off. So basically mon-fri.
I started around 3 weeks ago to fall in with my PCT.
I will be getting a blood test for diabetes mid January to see how my blood sugars are and I can work out from there how the compound is treating me.
I’m hoping the 5 on 2 off approach along with my already low carb eating helps against the insulin sensitivity issues mk677 has.
What all goes back to normal?I find as soon as you come off it all pretty much goes back to normal again, however I do check it a few times a week
Yep mine does anyway I take pre bed and in the morning mine usually goes out of normal range if I don’t run a GDA with itWhat all goes back to normal?
What? You didn't answer the question lol. What are you saying goes back to normal?Yep mine does anyway I take pre bed and in the morning mine usually goes out of normal range if I don’t run a GDA with it
By what means do you check it? Do you have a monitor in the house??I find as soon as you come off it all pretty much goes back to normal again, however I do check it a few times a week
Yep just a blood glucose monitor with the stripsBy what means do you check it? Do you have a monitor in the house??
Sorry mate I meant fasted blood glucose levels return back to normal rangeFasting glucose?
Yes. I ship out of Ohio. I now recommend 8 days ON/ 4 days OFF, repeat.Is MA labs located in the USA? Thinking about placing an order after seeing this thread! How long should somatozine be ran for?
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