How would you guys compare the results from a short, mild PH cycle (say, 1-Andro+4-Andro, or Epiandro) vs All-natural 8-week stack including something like X-Gels+ABE+the new Ep1C Unleashed? Can these natural supplements come close to the mild prohormone, if the diet is in check and the workout routine is solid and consistent? Is there any difference on a bulk vs a cut/recomp in your experience?