Mild PHs vs Natural Stacks

[gagandugan]

How would you guys compare the results from a short, mild PH cycle (say, 1-Andro+4-Andro, or Epiandro) vs All-natural 8-week stack including something like X-Gels+ABE+the new Ep1C Unleashed? Can these natural supplements come close to the mild prohormone, if the diet is in check and the workout routine is solid and consistent? Is there any difference on a bulk vs a cut/recomp in your experience?

 

[DigitalB]

I've never heard of anyone squatting or benching an extra 40lbs from natty supps..

I like the supps you have listed, but it's really not fair to compare..

 

[gagandugan]

Neither have I. But again, I'm really talking about "light," legal prohormones; DHEA derivatives and such.

 

[DigitalB]

I'm aware..

 

[gagandugan]

So, they are really that much more potent... Good to know.

 

[frankybaby]

The proportion for the sides is also the same. Something to consider

 

[afluck410]

An 8 week run of ABE on a cut helped zero with strength. So if that's important to you, I wouldn't expect much from a recomp/cut cycle

 

[st@ylifting]

Mild phs better than natural stacks

 

[IronAddiction]

hormones vs supplements .. not fair to even compare

 

[Volvo140G]

I gained 9 lbs lbm from a 6 week 1-andro cycle and leaned up quite a bit. No natty supplement will accomplish this.

 

[afluck410]

I gained 2lbs of LBM just thinking about my upcoming 1-andro cycle. Can a natty supplement do that?

 

[st@ylifting]

Hahaha^^

 

[McCrew530]

If you want to see a log of xgels and Abe check out a log I ran a couple of years ago. It should help give some insight. Im on my phone otherwise I would post it

 

[The_Old_Guy]

I've never heard of anyone squatting or benching an extra 40lbs from natty supps..

I like the supps you have listed, but it's really not fair to compare..

Thank you sir. Although I only added ~25lbs... Grrrr

 

[Olympus Labs]

Multiple alpha testers compared Epic Unleashed to a mild ph in terms of results. Corbin gained 7 lbs and lost fat on his run.