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Methylated Ecdysterone???

fisher300

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I was doing some research and i would like to know what peoples opinions on a methylated version of Ecdusterone would be? I fell a company should make a version like this, id try it!
 
Oh yea, if u do not know what it is here is a brief description. Ecdysterone is an insect growth regulator purported to be responsible for insects' incredible weight/strength ratio. Ecdysterone shows amazing potential in humans, without the hormonal side effects and HPTA shutdown.
 
I think ALRI's version was methylated.
 
Remember that adding a methyl can really change the characteristics of any molecule (e.g. dianabol and boldenone have the same chemical structure sans 17a and they're miles apart in effects).
 
ohh that is true, i wonder if it would do it too ecdysterone? if not methylate it they should then add an ester thus increasing the half life. i see great potential in this
 
good call Rodja and Fisher both
 
alri's pro-anabol has MDHR™ Methyl-Dihydrorubrosterone in it.

i dont necesarily believe its methalayed, it could be naming on their part.

also just because its methalated doesnt mean its gonna work better.

ALRI products are pretty good though, on paper.
 
a long ass time ago i used 2 bottles of an ecdysterone product with zero results. Will not try again, ever, do not recommend to anyone. I don't think throwing a methyl group onto it is going to save it.

I could be wrong, but I wouldn't get excited.
 
pro-anabol was okay if you took triple recomended dose.....it supposedly had a half life of 12 hours.....ecdy normally is like an hour right???? sounds llike they methylated it to me.....i know i got CRAZY back pumps from it if that tells you anything.....worse than any aas/ph ive ever taken....
 
Hmm... thing is in the evo-stack .... pro-anabol, bad ass mass, JW and Restore....
JW and Restore are seen as 'solid'. Bad Ass Mass is seen as okay. No-one every mentions the pro-anabol.

Anyway evostack or Alri stack are both good value. You can do their 10-week stack or super stack the whole lot together. Its cheaper than the Asteriod stack.. Worth a try but I wouldn't do pro-anabol by itself.

If you methylate the stuff than (if done correctly) it becomes toxic to the liver.
 
PP are considering a Ecdysterone product. It will not be TD. This suggests that the liver isn't going to destroy it (possibly there could be legal stuff they are thinking about). Ecdysterone molecular weight??

Anyway if it'll go TD and there's no benefit to TD then there's no benefit to methylating.
 
matthias7 said:
Hmm... thing is in the evo-stack .... pro-anabol, bad ass mass, JW and Restore....
JW and Restore are seen as 'solid'. Bad Ass Mass is seen as okay. No-one every mentions the pro-anabol.
Anyway evostack or Alri stack are both good value. You can do their 10-week stack or super stack the whole lot together. Its cheaper than the Asteriod stack.. Worth a try but I wouldn't do pro-anabol by itself.

If you methylate the stuff than (if done correctly) it becomes toxic to the liver.
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like i said...its OKAY if you triple the dose
 
yea the reason why x3 the dosage is necessary is because ecdysterone has a half life of about 30 min and is very poorly absorbed by the body. This is why i suggest either making is methylated, adding some form of ester to increase the halflife or making a topical product.
 
There was a short thread a while back i remeber reading from a rep at LG Sciences. They said they were working on a new ecdy product that had better absorbtion and longer half life. Iv tried to keep track but lost it, anyone else hear about this?
 
swan1209 said:
There was a short thread a while back i remeber reading from a rep at LG Sciences. They said they were working on a new ecdy product that had better absorbtion and longer half life. Iv tried to keep track but lost it, anyone else hear about this?
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yes i have heard about it, then they said, they stopped working on it, and gave it to ams sciences to work on. I think the project may have been terminated.
 
yea it probably was, i just thought it would make a killer product, i mean come on its the reason why most insects have the ability to lift 50x their body weight. could u imagine benching 50x ur body weight haha
 
fisher300 said:
yea it probably was, i just thought it would make a killer product, i mean come on its the reason why most insects have the ability to lift 50x their body weight. could u imagine benching 50x ur body weight haha
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Hehe the reason insects are so strong is because they have a skin-skeleton so the leverage is much better but it limits their size
 
fisher300 said:
yea the reason why x3 the dosage is necessary is because ecdysterone has a half life of about 30 min and is very poorly absorbed by the body. This is why i suggest either making is methylated, adding some form of ester to increase the halflife or making a topical product.
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alr claimed the half life of the product was twelve hours.....they recomended taking one pill in the morn and one pill 12 hours later....i took three caps twice a day and saw okay results....mabye check the product out....
 
I agree, you would think with all the technology developed in the pharmacuetical industry that some company should be able to extend the half life and bio availability of ecdy or turk. Its been proven to be safe and very anabolic. (Refering to the Russian studies that used injection.) If I were a supplement/ pharmacuetical company I would be all over this substance. If it works, what red blooded body builder/ athlete wouldn't buy it? I know anything with that kind of anabolic potential and safety would be included in my stack. I'd realy like to see it. Maybe if guys like us keep showing interest someone will realize that there is a huge market for such a product haha. If not, I'm a pharmacy major and I'll develop a product for us- Look for "Turk N' Ecdy-Pro SR" Ultra bio-available, sustained release ecdysterone complex to hit shelves in 2018!!!
 
swan1209 said:
I agree, you would think with all the technology developed in the pharmacuetical industry that some company should be able to extend the half life and bio availability of ecdy or turk. Its been proven to be safe and very anabolic. (Refering to the Russian studies that used injection.) If I were a supplement/ pharmacuetical company I would be all over this substance. If it works, what red blooded body builder/ athlete wouldn't buy it? I know anything with that kind of anabolic potential and safety would be included in my stack. I'd realy like to see it. Maybe if guys like us keep showing interest someone will realize that there is a huge market for such a product haha. If not, I'm a pharmacy major and I'll develop a product for us- Look for "Turk N' Ecdy-Pro SR" Ultra bio-available, sustained release ecdysterone complex to hit shelves in 2018!!!
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haha i like that idea, I mean a hormone with no proven side effects, no HPTA shut down, amazing anabolic porential and all is natural just sounds like the prefect anabolic!!
 
I read this little tidbit somewhere about the full spectrum Rhamp.Carth./Leuzea root
"The mechanism behind the actions of ecdysterone is probably similar to that of human steroid hormones. This means that hormone receptors on human cells interact with the ecdysterone. Human endogenous hormones have, however, an advantage over ecdysterone because of their higher affinity to the hormone receptors. When human steroid hormones are produced in sufficient quantities in the body, ecdysterone cannot compete with endogenous hormones for the receptors and therefore does not have an effect. But when there is a deficiency in the body of its own hormones, ecdysterone can bind to unoccupied steroid hormone receptors, replacing the missing endogenous hormone.

During the human organism adaptive response to stress factors, the role of ecdysterone consists primarily of the activation of a synthesis of various proteins. For instance , repeated physical stress of muscles triggers an adaptive synthesis of oxidative enzymes and the formation of contractile proteins in muscle cells and the growth of new muscle capillaries. This occurs with the participation of testosterone - it is this hormone which activates the genes controlling protein synthesis. During exhaustive physical exercise, the testosterone concentration in the blood stream drops. Ecdysterone can then become an effective substitute for the missing testosterone, displaying its anabolic activity and promoting the adaptation to physical stress."
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Which seems to explain quite a bit and the addition of protein.
I stacked some ecdy with some arachidonic for three months once.
I slept better, leaned out, got gradually stronger, hardened up, had a more even mood
and the ecdy seemed to lessen the DOMS experienced by a lot of AA users.

If I could get a high potency Rhampoticum/Suma ecdy extra and run it with Resveratrol
that would be a staple.

P.S. Ecdy may also be good for people in general to take to keep stress and toxins from having bad effects on the body.
 
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