No, we're not going down that road again, unless we find something that is 100% non-questionably DSHEA compliant, which methyl-sten wouldn't be. I came across 2 boxes of the recently made stuff, and at 1 day in @ 30mg/day I can definitely notice a few things, like some decent CNS stim + body temp effects, as well as a little bit of back pumps already.