Melanotan II dose for flatlined libido

[CroLifter]

Got some of that enroute to my position last chance tried everything. My libido is completely flatlined its a bad situation I am on test and tren low doses. Also hcg and mk677 and taking inhibit p.

Approx what dose would you suggest to take? In human studies up to 2.5mg was used but that seems a bit excessive to me to start out with, some start with 0.5mg per day.


Thinking of trying 0.5 - 0.75 mg then increase to 1mg if no effect?

Update: friggin post taking so long

 

[CroLifter]

Acquired the vial. Tomorrow is the 1st dose. Decided to go with 300 mikes first to test out as i read horror stories about throwing up for the next 2 days etc.

If all is well, next dose will be 0.5mg.


in hopes of achieving a somewhat functional boner lol...

 

[Codybenz]

Libido and boner are 2 different things. What you gonna do with a hard pecker if you don’t want to have sex?

 

[Whisky]

Libido and boner are 2 different things. What you gonna do with a hard pecker if you don’t want to have sex?

this is exactly what I was thinking. I believe it’s melanotan that just gives you a boner regardless of desire?

 

[Mathb33]

250mcg no need to go more. Melanotan does dogshit for libido by the way but it will give you temporary erections. Melatonan is notorious for very bad belly cramps and nausea. You could go to 500mcg but more sides. Some people don’t get them if they’re lucky. Personally the sides make me want to die so I go 150mcg morning 150mcg night. I use it to tan.

 

[Mathb33]

As mentionned above... having a hard Ding dong won’t give you the desire to ****.

 

[enhanced]

Have you tried PT-141 yet? I've heard it does increase libido.

 

[CroLifter]

250mcg no need to go more. Melanotan does dogshit for libido by the way but it will give you temporary erections. Melatonan is notorious for very bad belly cramps and nausea. You could go to 500mcg but more sides. Some people don’t get them if they’re lucky. Personally the sides make me want to die so I go 150mcg morning 150mcg night. I use it to tan.

Thanks for the heads up. Might wanna go even lower.

I dont care if i dont have desire, i just need to get the job done.


@enhanced prolly should have gotten that but i couldnt find reliable source. Its just melanotan 2 without tanning effects i think.

 

[KvanH]

Like people said, erections and lidibo are very different things. As for physical effects, yeah maybe Melanotan is worth a try. But as for the libido, since you've talked about it a lot and tried many different things (mainly physical/hormonal), have you tried therapy? Serious question - not poking fun or anything like that.

 

[CroLifter]

Like people said, erections and lidibo are very different things. As for physical effects, yeah maybe Melanotan is worth a try. But as for the libido, since you've talked about it a lot and tried many different things (mainly physical/hormonal), have you tried therapy? Serious question - not poking fun or anything like that.

Libido isnt necessary as long as i can keep an erection. I got plenty of drive and aggression, just cant get aroused.

Cialis doesnt work for me.

Yes i tried myriad of things and i decided to ascribe lack of libido to the hpta being shut down. No link between the brain and genitals, no libido.

Therapy wont work when my d1ck is lifeless and shriveled. I feel basically nothing down there.

Anyway, will report later in the day about the sides and if there was any positive effect.

 

[Codybenz]

5 step guide to getting your mojo back.

1) Drop the tren you’re taking for “trt”
2) Take caber
3) Find new hot, young, slutty girlfriend that doesn’t use safe words.
4) Invest in some new whips, chains, and a giant jar of peanut butter
5) Enjoy your re found libido

 

[KvanH]

5 step guide to getting your mojo back.

1) Drop the tren you’re taking for “trt”
2) Take caber
3) Find new hot, young, slutty girlfriend that doesn’t use safe words.
4) Invest in some new whips, chains, and a giant jar of peanut butter
5) Enjoy your re found libido

This post deserves a - @Whisky approved - stamp

 

[CroLifter]

But but, i love me some tren.

Cant let go of that lol

No but seriously since i dropped test way down and added in tren my face looks better, i shed less and i am recovering better.
And how the hell would 50mg of tren ace a week mess with libido?

And of course its not trt. Its a micro cycle... A long ass one. The only way to cycle without my hct shooting for the stars.


And... I didnt have libido even before tren so it is what it is.


Anyway, this is a mt 2 thread. Lets see how i react. Although there is a high possibility of me trashing it if sides are too much.

 

[CroLifter]

200 mcg

10 minutes post injection, face is red and warm

Feeling sth in the stomach, could be unrelated

 

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I got nausea after every pin of 250mcg. It eventually goes away.

 

[Jinsun]

I have zero knowledge about melanotan, so I'm interested in results.

Libido however is a state of mind, passion, and what @Codybenz wrote, albeit paraphrasing, is in fact the right thing to do. If you'd just let everything be for half a year/year, get back to baseline, find inner peace, a passion, hot chick whom you connect emotionally and physically, ... You'd remenisce about the days you were pinning 10 different substances just to find a pinch of mental stability. One should have good libido when he reaches homeostasis.

 

[CroLifter]

I have zero knowledge about melanotan, so I'm interested in results.

Libido however is a state of mind, passion, and what @Codybenz wrote, albeit paraphrasing, is in fact the right thing to do. If you'd just let everything be for half a year/year, get back to baseline, find inner peace, a passion, hot chick whom you connect emotionally and physically, ... You'd remenisce about the days you were pinning 10 different substances just to find a pinch of mental stability. One should have good libido when he reaches homeostasis.

I actually feel really good and stable. Little nagging buttetflies in the stomach that i get from tine to time off cycle are gone.

I am cool, calculated and calm. Recovery is good.

Btw its been 4 hours. Very slight nausea, some light cramps and facial and chest flushing. But no sign of a boner or anything. Shriveled completely.

Thinking 200 mcg is too little.

Will try one more time during the next few days but 500 mcg+. If i dont get any effect then, i am calling experiment a falilure.

Like @Jinsun said, i am not going to poison myself with yet another black market chemical that doesnt do anything.

And also @Jinsun its not simply a state of mind, at least not for me. If it was i wouldnt be able to increase it off cycle by simply taking some aromasin.

 

[Whisky]

5 step guide to getting your mojo back.

1) Drop the tren you’re taking for “trt”
2) Take caber
3) Find new hot, young, slutty girlfriend that doesn’t use safe words.
4) Invest in some new whips, chains, and a giant jar of peanut butter
5) Enjoy your re found libido

**** yeah, this guy gets it.

I especially like the inclusion of peanut butter

 

[celc5]

I especially like the inclusion of peanut butter

350g per day

 

[CroLifter]

Well what is one supposed to do if not satisfied with results, or in doubt?

Up the dose, of course



Up the test, up the tren... Up the mt 2...

 

[Uncle_E]

I have zero knowledge about melanotan, so I'm interested in results.

Libido however is a state of mind, passion, and what @Codybenz wrote, albeit paraphrasing, is in fact the right thing to do. If you'd just let everything be for half a year/year, get back to baseline, find inner peace, a passion, hot chick whom you connect emotionally and physically, ... You'd remenisce about the days you were pinning 10 different substances just to find a pinch of mental stability. One should have good libido when he reaches homeostasis.

I’m really rooting for the MT2 to help you out and get you those boners you deserve...but don’t sleep Jinsun’s advice to take some time off. You’re in your early 20’s right? But you sound like you’ve run as much gear as the OG’s on here that are 50+...you’ve got a lot of life left to live bro.

I also think I remember you saying in the past that you didn’t really jerk off as a teenager, am I remembering that right? That makes me think that you could benefit from some sort of mental therapy. I’m not a urologist, but I think the desire to masturbate as a teenage boy is akin to an addict committing crimes to get their next hit. If you didn’t have a borderline uncontrollable urge to jerk off as a teenager, I think your ED/libido problems preceded your gear usage.

 

[CroLifter]

I’m really rooting for the MT2 to help you out and get you those boners you deserve...but don’t sleep Jinsun’s advice to take some time off. You’re in your early 20’s right? But you sound like you’ve run as much gear as the OG’s on here that are 50+...you’ve got a lot of life left to live bro.

I also think I remember you saying in the past that you didn’t really jerk off as a teenager, am I remembering that right? That makes me think that you could benefit from some sort of mental therapy. I’m not a urologist, but I think the desire to masturbate as a teenage boy is akin to an addict committing crimes to get their next hit. If you didn’t have a borderline uncontrollable urge to jerk off as a teenager, I think your ED/libido problems preceded your gear usage.

Man i am astonished at how much you remember about me.

23 yo currently amd yes that is true i never had an urge. You may be right about this low libido thing preceeding my gear usage. I had some libido in my teens but it dropped dramatically around age 17-18 from what i recall.
I also remember vividly being 16 and documenting how i didnt get a single boner for a month during summer vacation, thats when red flag appeared to me, but unfortunately i never went to the doc.

Also i believed masturbation was a waste of energy and didnt want my focus and drive in school and the gym to suffer. But true i never really wanted it.

Therapy wont help i think. I dont have anxiety and i feel comfortable when i am with a girl i have feelings for. I have no problems connecting with her, making out, cuddling etc. I just dont feel pressure building up down there and therefore stay limp.

I feel exactly the way i felt before puberty.

Fun fact; if i take a very low dose of aromasin off cycle, my libido skyrockets. Hpta upregulationis the cause.





250mcg dose failed to produce results. Next I will try, and i will probably regret this, 500mcg +. But if all i get are stomach cramps again, i am washing it down the toilet.

 

[Nac]

One of the horniest cruises I did was 250mg test plus an asin tab 2x per week. I felt fawkin great. I dont get why some of the members here are so anti-AIs.

 

[jinxie]

Libido isnt necessary as long as i can keep an erection. I got plenty of drive and aggression, just cant get aroused.

Cialis doesnt work for me.

Yes i tried myriad of things and i decided to ascribe lack of libido to the hpta being shut down. No link between the brain and genitals, no libido.

Therapy wont work when my d1ck is lifeless and shriveled. I feel basically nothing down there.

Anyway, will report later in the day about the sides and if there was any positive effect.

Some people claim it helps libido. I heard about a fellow who resumed having wet dreams at 43 years old. Keep the faith.

No, I’m not going to prove it, haha.

Daily cialis won’t help libido, but there will be so many opportunities. That would make quite a Jack stack.

 

[robshef]

Some people claim it helps libido. I heard about a fellow who resumed having wet dreams at 43 years old. Keep the faith.

No, I’m not going to prove it, haha.

Daily cialis won’t help libido, but there will be so many opportunities. That would make quite a Jack stack.

Wet dreams after therapy??

 

[Ironpirate]

One of the horniest cruises I did was 250mg test plus an asin tab 2x per week. I felt fawkin great. I dont get why some of the members here are so anti-AIs.

Because of the increase in cholesterol and increased risk of injuries. 50mg of exemastane is over kill unless you are on 1g+ of test or running ment.

 

[Nac]

Because of the increase in cholesterol and increased risk of injuries. 50mg of exemastane is over kill unless you are on 1g+ of test or running ment.

Lol wut

I was dosing 25mg.

OP is taking tren. And you're pointing out cholesterol concerns with an AI?

Why feel like ****? Why have no libido IF an AI could get you feeling normal again? Life to me is not living if you have no libido. Fuk that.

Seems to me alot of crap is being spouted on this forum about AIs and cholesterol. Crap as in, talking in absolutes. For most, MOST, people, the lipid impact of an AI is rather benign given its benefits. If you can get by without one, fukin awesome. I'm not saying dose it for no reason.

This "50mg is overkill except in X context" is bullshit. Some guys need to run what they need to run. If their bloods look acceptable who gives a sh1t?

We are using drugs. There will often be some tradeoffs.

 

[CroLifter]

Ironpirate is correct, @Nac. I myself dont need ai unless i run 500 test.

I grow better and feel better without it. All ai does is give me better vascularity and joint pain. On cycle.

Off cycle its a different story.

 

[Nac]

Ironpirate is correct, @Nac. I myself dont need ai unless i run 500 test.

I grow better and feel better without it. All ai does is give me better vascularity and joint pain.

To be clear ironpirate was making a sweeping generalization with his comment, which wasn't aimed solely at you. So his comment is not correct in that sense.

But, you feel better without an AI? You have zero libido.

I'm not saying or claiming using an AI in this context, for you in your scenario, will solve your libido issue. And if you are confident using one wont help you here, fine that's your call, I'm not interested in trying to convince you to do something that you're against, and that might not help anyway.

However, it sometimes appears that people (not just yourself) are unwilling to try utilising an AI on principle alone, at the detriment of its potential benefits. Just strikes me as stubborn and hypocritical.

 

[CroLifter]

To be clear ironpirate was making a sweeping generalization with his comment, which wasn't aimed solely at you. So his comment is not correct in that sense.

But, you feel better without an AI? You have zero libido.

I'm not saying or claiming using an AI in this context, for you in your scenario, will solve your libido issue. And if you are confident using one wont help you here, fine that's your call, I'm not interested in trying to convince you to do something that you're against, and that might not help anyway.

However, it sometimes appears that people (not just yourself) are unwilling to try utilising an AI on principle alone, at the detriment of its potential benefits. Just strikes me as stubborn and hypocritical.

Oh i tried taking it. Those who were around here 1.5 years ago remember me crashing e2 by chasing my libido. Ai never helped only detrimental.

I dont get gyno issues anyway so its not necessary.

I am thinking i might be deficient in some neurosteroids as when i take higher dose hcg i get a tiny increase in libido to like 1/3 of normal. But since i use hcg pretty much non stop i have probably desensitized lhcg receptors.

 

[Nac]

I vaguely remember that, but not specifically.

If you're confident based on experience, my apologies, that's the best anyone can do short of bloods.

 

[Iwilleattuna]

Lol wut

I was dosing 25mg.

OP is taking tren. And you're pointing out cholesterol concerns with an AI?

Why feel like ****? Why have no libido IF an AI could get you feeling normal again? Life to me is not living if you have no libido. Fuk that.

Seems to me alot of crap is being spouted on this forum about AIs and cholesterol. Crap as in, talking in absolutes. For most, MOST, people, the lipid impact of an AI is rather benign given its benefits. If you can get by without one, fukin awesome. I'm not saying dose it for no reason.

This "50mg is overkill except in X context" is bullshit. Some guys need to run what they need to run. If their bloods look acceptable who gives a sh1t?

We are using drugs. There will often be some tradeoffs.

aromasin doesn’t impact cholesterol. Adex and letro do , though

 

[CroLifter]

aromasin doesn’t impact cholesterol. Adex and letro do , though

Its the lack of/too low levels of estrogen which result from taking aromasin that then contribute to unfavourable lipid profile.

 

[Ironpirate]

Lol wut

I was dosing 25mg.

OP is taking tren. And you're pointing out cholesterol concerns with an AI?

Why feel like ****? Why have no libido IF an AI could get you feeling normal again? Life to me is not living if you have no libido. Fuk that.

Seems to me alot of crap is being spouted on this forum about AIs and cholesterol. Crap as in, talking in absolutes. For most, MOST, people, the lipid impact of an AI is rather benign given its benefits. If you can get by without one, fukin awesome. I'm not saying dose it for no reason.

This "50mg is overkill except in X context" is bullshit. Some guys need to run what they need to run. If their bloods look acceptable who gives a sh1t?

We are using drugs. There will often be some tradeoffs.

You're right I shouldn't generalize. I just don't agree with taking x amount of an ai for the entire length of a cycle just because someone has it or it makes them feel good. I personally believe that they should be used sparingly.

 

[bad rad]

I think I read all the posts but if I repeat a recommendation sorry. I would do a multi-pronged approach in your situation for 8-16 weeks.

1) Take 10mg Test C/E daily
2) Take 100-150iu hCG daily
3) Take 100-200mg Pregnenolone daily
4) 2-3 pills Tribestan daily, this gave me a libido boost on cycle too so. . .

My impression is you need a solid reset of everything. Pregnenolone was a huge difference for me and my libido/sexual function. I'm still on it after adding hCG back in since hCG doesn't seem to boost my Preg levels or DHEA levels. If you still suffer from "low libido" that might be your normal. Docs put me on Paxil in HS and it completely fucked up my HPTA and I lost all libido and erection ability. I have never gotten my pre-Paxil erections back and I'm 45 now.

 

[CroLifter]

I think I read all the posts but if I repeat a recommendation sorry. I would do a multi-pronged approach in your situation for 8-16 weeks.

1) Take 10mg Test C/E daily
2) Take 100-150iu hCG daily
3) Take 100-200mg Pregnenolone daily
4) 2-3 pills Tribestan daily, this gave me a libido boost on cycle too so. . .

My impression is you need a solid reset of everything. Pregnenolone was a huge difference for me and my libido/sexual function. I'm still on it after adding hCG back in since hCG doesn't seem to boost my Preg levels or DHEA levels. If you still suffer from "low libido" that might be your normal. Docs put me on Paxil in HS and it completely fucked up my HPTA and I lost all libido and erection ability. I have never gotten my pre-Paxil erections back and I'm 45 now.

I got dermacrine on its way. Of course the post office is taking too long.

I believr i desensitized to hcg as i dont get the boost from it anymore.

Mt 2 even if it works is not sustainable. Its only for emergency situations. But so far it failed to produce anything except stomach pain.



And yeah man i feel your pain. If it makes you feel any better, i didnt have a really hard erection in like 3 years now. Its always flimsy, barely enough for penetration, most of the times not.

We re phuked. 4 life. At least i did it to myself but you were unfortunate to have an idiot phuk you up.

 

[bad rad]

And yeah man i feel your pain. If it makes you feel any better, i didnt have a really hard erection in like 3 years now. Its always flimsy, barely enough for penetration, most of the times not.

I recently went through this too but after adding 200mg Pregnenolone daily I got my mojo back. My levels were 15 and should have been 180+. My girl tried multiple times to be with me but I couldn't get an erection started at all. My test levels were 7000+ but the desire wasn't there like normal. Added the Preg and bam, got her pregnant our first time together. Unfortunately she lost it.

I would really consider the post I have above as it works very well for resetting the systems. My levels are a little low on 10mg daily but libido and erections are pretty good.

 

[CroLifter]

I honestly feel i am lacking certain neurotransmitter or hormone as i can literally feel my libido fading few days after i get on.

In other words, when i get shut down, my libido is gone.

We ll see if preg and dhea help.


Its not like i have absolutely 0 desire. Its just that, like you said, its dead down there, no response.

 

[bad rad]

I honestly feel i am lacking certain neurotransmitter or hormone as i can literally feel my libido fading few days after i get on.

In other words, when i get shut down, my libido is gone.

We ll see if preg and dhea help.


Its not like i have absolutely 0 desire. Its just that, like you said, its dead down there, no response.

Literally what I was going through myself. If I got drunk I would get a raging erection around her but circumstances prevented us from acting on it. That led me towards neurotransmitter issues and got the pregnenolone based on another guy's experince with similar issues. Complete game changer and I'm still on it.

Do you have access to Proviron? DHT is a neurotransmitter too and I get positive results from it.

 

[CroLifter]

600 mcg of mt 2

Here i am sittng about to throw up and 0, zero effect on either libido or erections.

I declare it officially ineffective in that regard.



Yeah man i am also on tren and added mast in a week ago for cosmetics. Proviron never did anything in regards to libido. No androgen ever did.

 

[Ironpirate]

600 mcg of mt 2

Here i am sittng about to throw up and 0, zero effect on either libido or erections.

I declare it officially ineffective in that regard.



Yeah man i am also on tren and added mast in a week ago for cosmetics. Proviron never did anything in regards to libido. No androgen ever did.

I think it's time for you to explore some back door(prostate) stimulation techniques. I have masturbated or had sex 5 days a week for the last 25 years. I couldn't imagine being in your shoes. I truly feel terrible for you.

 

[CroLifter]

I think it's time for you to explore some back door(prostate) stimulation techniques. I have masturbated or had sex 5 days a week for the last 25 years. I couldn't imagine being in your shoes. I truly feel terrible for you.

How old are you?


I am honestly fine with that. The problem is it puts strain on the relationship.

 

[Ironpirate]

How old are you?


I am honestly fine with that. The problem is it puts strain on the relationship.

36

 

[Ironpirate]

How old are you?


I am honestly fine with that. The problem is it puts strain on the relationship.

You have to be a complete person before you can contribute positively in a relationship. I wish you the best of luck.

 

[CroLifter]

You have to be a complete person before you can contribute positively in a relationship. I wish you the best of luck.

Complete as in being able to bone?


With all the modern medicine those phukers havent yet come up with the drug that will give you an erection without libido.

 

[Ironpirate]

Complete as in being able to bone?


With all the modern medicine those phukers havent yet come up with the drug that will give you an erection without libido.

Yes. Technology is always improving and you are young so I wouldn't lose hope. You never know you might come across something unexpected that tickles your fancy.

 

[Whisky]

I think it's time for you to explore some back door(prostate) stimulation techniques. I have masturbated or had sex 5 days a week for the last 25 years. I couldn't imagine being in your shoes. I truly feel terrible for you.

the prostate stuff doesn’t get me hard, it just makes me cum, almost instantly at times. I’ve cum when soft through that before.

 

[Ironpirate]

the prostate stuff doesn’t get me hard, it just makes me cum, almost instantly at times. I’ve cum when soft through that before.

I think anything that gets his river flowing will help. If I go a few days without Cumming, it will come out chunky. I'm no Dr but it can't be healthy to not ejaculate regularly.

 

[Whisky]

I think anything that gets his river flowing will help. If I go a few days without Cumming, it will come out chunky. I'm no Dr but it can't be healthy to not ejaculate regularly.

totally agree on that regard bro. I’m normally twice a day…..just always found it interesting how the prostrate can do that though.

 

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Not sure what this prostrate stuff is y'all are talking about.