Mega-TRN clones

I never thought of using PP for a cut but stacked with winztrol or prostanaziol doesnt sound too bad... would the win or prostan keep the water weight down?
 
Well I was using it to bulk, but I ended up leaning out while puting on about 10 pounds. It was a while ago and I forgot the details, but I was happy with it.
 
I have to agree with Alpine on retiring clen, I used it a few times a couple of years ago, and still haven't got my endurance back(I'm sure there was some damage done). There is no reason for a recreational bodybuilder to put his body and heart through the damage clen will do.
 
isnt superdrol a progestin as well?

about my statement about pp and trn, i guess if you are sensitive to progestins in anyway you will most likely get gyno from that stack. Others are, well, lucky to be able to run it like that. I know when i threw it in with PP on week 3, workouts were intense and strength was pretty sweet. I cut it short on that stack cuz i started to feel like crap. I think it was the TRN i really dont think i will use the stuff again, not worth the risk really imo.
 
if you can get ahold of alri m-trn then youll be in strength gain city, not so much a mass builder so if you threw som zol and that together i think youd have yourself a very nice strength building cutter.

i ran a m-trn log when it was FIRST out, check it out.

as for these knock offs id steer clear, as said they never get it right and i wish they would since it would be great to stack with 3-AD when it comes out... who said they had extras again... PM me.
 
if you guys are after the original methoxy trn there is an english site selling it for £10 a pop now. i don't think i am allowed to post a link to it here.
 
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Superdrol is not a progestin!

pistonpump said:
isnt superdrol a progestin as well?
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Hey Piston, remember this thread?
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stxnas said:
I had this debate with some others in another thread. I think some people are confusing the fact that an oral can activate Pg receptors with the matter of the supp actually being a progestin. I'm with Mullet on this one, superdrol isn't a progestin...
...but I believe superdrol is an androstane and like Mullet said, a derivative of DHT....
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Author L. Rea said:
bigSMokey:

...As an example, there is a newer attempt at knocking off the old MTRN product by KS that is no where near correct. Hard to knock off what you do not know how to create yourself. Qualified people like Patrick Arnold and Dr. D "could" easily do so, but would not due to the mutual passion for innovation such minds share. As to Catlin, no doubt he does have the structures, there was no effort to protect anything from detection. Nothing illegal to consider...

2) if you create it, you get to name it. But not sure it really matters any more, at least to ALRI, as we are out of that area of the market totally to avoid all of the negative such issues brings. We are busy developing products that work and do not include the need to deal with Balco type issues. Innovation has not died, but the knock offs will need to go elsewhere....
...TRN was not methoxy trenbolone. Real TRN made most horny, methoxy trenbolone would be a liver killer and libido death.
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hmmm most supps half a shelf life of 2 or 3 years and after that they dont just go bad, you may just need to play with the dosage to get enough of the active..... shouldnt be a problem regardless with m-trn.

damn bottle comes with 90 caps and i never dosed the suggested 3 caps (only 1.5mg per pill) a day but like twice, too damn strong and sides get outta hand. That bein said i think 1 or 2 a day even passed expiration will be VERY potent and you always got your 3rd cap to fill it in if your not noticing anything and still make a 30 day cycle.

i will only be usin this compound in the future as a stack as it would be great with some mass builder, its far too strong on sides and although strength went through the roof i gained almost no weight.
 
thesinner said:
Trenadrol was an attempt at an M-trn clone, but wasn't a successful one, and higher dosages had to be implemented to attain the same results.
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That's not really accurate. I have used Trenadrol with great success and no libido related sides. The dosage is not actually labeled correctly. KS was required to change this for an 'unknown reason' according to very reputable sources.
 
Yeah the label says 30mg now instead of 3mg. I don't understand why they would have to change that unless it actually contained 30mg..
 
leetuser said:
Yeah the label says 30mg now instead of 3mg. I don't understand why they would have to change that unless it actually contained 30mg..
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Well, to be honest, I would recommend PM'ing Voodoo, so that I do not misquote anybody here. The true dose is, I believe anyways, 3mg.
 
ALR said that trenadrol wasn't even close to his or GLs M-TRN...and then they change the dose to say 30mg...that's quite odd, but would support what Author said.
 
stxnas said:
ALR said that trenadrol wasn't even close to his or GLs M-TRN...and then they change the dose to say 30mg...that's quite odd, but would support what Author said.
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I have read a quote from his post on that, I still hold my own opinion on Trenadrol though. There were actually RESULTS with Trenadrol and a huge increase in libido, quite the opposite from TRN I may add.
 
here i couldnt remember myself but im sure it wasnt neg on libido so i went back and checked my own log.... ME and RyanSM were the first 2 to run logs here and the guini testers so to say for everyone else on AM since ALRI provided no alpha or beta testers logs IF they even had them....pretty sure they didnt.

this is an excerpt from that log

poopypants said:
this has to be the ultimate compound for strength and endrance. ive allready upped all my exercizes by at least 15lbs.(except curls but some of my back exercizes by 30lbs!) and i feel great. no lethargy or tiredness and as well as of late for no reason at all ive been sprouting wood at random, kinda cool but kinda inconvenient. no test substitute has been added and i dont think that the ATD would be the culprite either since all its doing for now is keeping the esto down.... at least thats how i understand it. i still havent had any noticable shrinkage but wouldnt doubt for a second that my natty production is out the window given this is so freakin strong
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this was also from another guy i trust in my log who started bout a week after me...

3clipseGT said:
Also usualy when i cut, if i have a anabolic in there ( only real one ive used while cutting was MDHT and 1-ad ) but strength didnt really go up a ton obviously because of cutting cals. This is NOT the case with m-tren and prostan. I mean even with MP which is said to increase metab by atleast say 15% ( ive upped it to 8 caps ) so maybe even more. My strength is just threw the roof. It amazes me. My strength jumped 10 lbs on incline dumbells and i added 6 reps as well.

Very impressed with this cycle so far. Also about the attitude. The M-tren is makin me happier , hardly getting aggrivated and sex drive is still there , maybe even elevated ? Possibly the prostan is raising it but its def. still there!
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def not a libido killer as you claim bro.:study:
 
poopypants said:
here i couldnt remember myself but im sure it wasnt neg on libido so i went back and checked my own log.... ME and RyanSM were the first 2 to run logs here and the guini testers so to say for everyone else on AM since ALRI provided no alpha or beta testers logs IF they even had them....pretty sure they didnt.

this is an excerpt from that log



this was also from another guy i trust in my log who started bout a week after me...



def not a libido killer as you claim bro.:study:
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did you run this solo? I noticed the other guy didnt, maybe the cause for his libido increases. I have seen several logs and have close friends in real life tell me that their libido was diminished.
 
I ran it with 1-Test/4AD for 5 weeks and had an awesome recomp and gained a lot of strength (I was doing 315 on BB Rows at a weight of 185). Post cycle was kind of a *****, but I was using ATD and that kills my libido. After I stopped my PCT, I was back to normal within a couple of weeks. My biggest problem was the nutrient repartioning from the stack causing me to become hypoglycemic and wolf down carbs at night.
 
ya it was on its own man, i took ATD throughout wich is supposed to kill libido as well but obviously it didnt effect me.... post cycle therapy as yeahright said is a diff story but comeon how many compounds come post cycle therapy havent killed your libido? bottom line is while on it didnt do jack to it and actually artificially supported it, prob another reason why it drops off come post cycle.

Did YOUR freinds take it solo? and did they take ALRI's and not another knock off that didnt get it right like trenadrol??

i just dont like how you come in here talkin facts about a compound you havent personally used and admit was before your time. i wouldnt dream of tellin someone else that on a 1,4-AD combo that its gonna kill their libido as it was banned the year before I started and didnt get to take it.....and if i remember right there was many guys whos libido was huge with that combo and others where the 1-AD was too strong and eeven the 4-ad didnt make it up for them.
 
poopypants said:
ya it was on its own man, i took ATD throughout wich is supposed to kill libido as well but obviously it didnt effect me.... post cycle therapy as yeahright said is a diff story but comeon how many compounds come post cycle therapy havent killed your libido? bottom line is while on it didnt do jack to it and actually artificially supported it, prob another reason why it drops off come post cycle.

Did YOUR freinds take it solo? and did they take ALRI's and not another knock off that didnt get it right like trenadrol??

i just dont like how you come in here talkin facts about a compound you havent personally used and admit was before your time. i wouldnt dream of tellin someone else that on a 1,4-AD combo that its gonna kill their libido as it was banned the year before I started and didnt get to take it.....and if i remember right there was many guys whos libido was huge with that combo and others where the 1-AD was too strong and eeven the 4-ad didnt make it up for them.
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Although before my usage time, not before my time of studying prohormones and the human body. I actually have expired ALRI product, regardless of whether or not I use it has no pertinence. I am not trying to start a quarrel here, I am simply stating what I have heard to be true, regardless of what others offer as opinion. I can tell you that all of the people I referred to, did use it solo, with the exception of 2 who stacked it with various other phs. I personally do not believe that me mentioning the loss of libido on a particular cycle is enough to make you lash out here.
 
dont get defensive and think im pissed over here, as im not.

you just cant post something like this

There were actually RESULTS with Trenadrol and a huge increase in libido, quite the opposite from TRN I may add.
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and get away with it as its WAY untrue and by you stating it as fact youll give people reading the wrong idea, i merely wanted to set the record straight.

i just had a great exp with the compound MYSELF and so if one of your freinds wanted to provide excerpts from there personall records on here to refute that then have at it, but with no first hand exp how do you know you aint missing out just lettin that bottle go to waste on your shelf if you busy taking unexperienced advice???

now i dont know your freinds or their exp/situation so take what i say with a grain of salt, dont feel personally offended as im not attacking YOU but your comment. :cheers:
 
poopypants said:
dont get defensive and think im pissed over here, as im not.

you just cant post something like this



and get away with it as its WAY untrue and by you stating it as fact youll give people reading the wrong idea, i merely wanted to set the record straight.

i just had a great exp with the compound MYSELF and so if one of your freinds wanted to provide excerpts from there personall records on here to refute that then have at it, but with no first hand exp how do you know you aint missing out just lettin that bottle go to waste on your shelf if you busy taking unexperienced advice???

now i dont know your freinds or their exp/situation so take what i say with a grain of salt, dont feel personally offended as im not attacking YOU but your comment. :cheers:
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S'all good dude, I can understand where you're coming from. Several posts are availabe on another forum to back my statements, I doubt links are availabe due to rules. My products aren't unused because of rumors, I test things first hand to compare my results with others, I just havent had any time or need to run it.
 
Post cycle on anything is gonna feel pretty lousy. I've never had a good sex drive post cycle of anything.

Poopypants, what dose did you run the trn at? I've got three tubs that i'm gonna use with 1-test in the summer. but hopefully that will be enough for a couple of cycles.
 
charger71 said:
4-6mg, libido was ok while stacked with ergomax, solo my libido was in the trash and took 4 weeks of post cycle therapy to get back to normal
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libido trash after you stopped the ergo or before you started?? ergo was known to be a hit or miss for libido too, so i would think that if you were takin both then switched to just trn then you might have the same effect that most exp once they quit taking the stronger of the 2 libido enhancers..... just a thought.
 
Stavross said:
Post cycle on anything is gonna feel pretty lousy. I've never had a good sex drive post cycle of anything.

Poopypants, what dose did you run the trn at? I've got three tubs that i'm gonna use with 1-test in the summer. but hopefully that will be enough for a couple of cycles.
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i seriously oinly dosed it @ the recomended 4.5mg for a very short time as it was just too strong with the sides and wasnt getting any added benifits over 3mg. so depending on how long it takes to expire and how big you are or respond to most compunds then you may only need 3mg or 4.5mg but a couple bottles esp stacked should last ayou a good 3 and maybe 4 cycles if you dont get grubby with it.

you got the alri trn version???
 
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poopypants said:
libido trash after you stopped the ergo or before you started?? ergo was known to be a hit or miss for libido too, so i would think that if you were takin both then switched to just trn then you might have the same effect that most exp once they quit taking the stronger of the 2 libido enhancers..... just a thought.
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my libido was fine on ergo, after i stopped ergo i ran 1 more week of trn at 6mg and my libido literally diapeared. ive ran 2 superdrol cycles with no libido problems post cycle or while on. after trn i was taking clomid, tamox, jungle warfare and retain and my libido was so low i was almost scared. i dont think a got a boner for a solid 3 weeks and then it was 2 weeks of lower than average libido then finally towards the end up jungle warfare i got my libido back.
 
charger71 said:
my libido was fine on ergo, after i stopped ergo i ran 1 more week of trn at 6mg and my libido literally diapeared. ive ran 2 superdrol cycles with no libido problems post cycle or while on. after trn i was taking clomid, tamox, jungle warfare and retain and my libido was so low i was almost scared. i dont think a got a boner for a solid 3 weeks and then it was 2 weeks of lower than average libido then finally towards the end up jungle warfare i got my libido back.
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yea thats what i guessed... n itll happen man. dont be too scared thoughn if you run into a tough PCT like that again try supplementing with some trib, fenugreek and maca root.... that'll get the libido a goin real quick for ya.
 
poopypants said:
i seriously oinly dosed it @ the recomended 4.5mg for a very short time as it was just too strong with the sides and wasnt getting any added benifits over 3mg. so depending on how long it takes to expire and how big you are or respond to most compunds then you may only need 3mg or 4.5mg but a couple bottles esp stacked should last ayou a good 3 and maybe 4 cycles if you dont get grubby with it.

you got the alri trn version???
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yep. got ALRI M-TRN :clean:
 
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