Me and T3

RRAdam

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heres my t3 experience from the other day

"this morning i woke up and felt like i was going to die... chest pain - worst pain i have ever experienced in my ENTIRE life... just a little more painful than pleuricy (sp)

i couldnt sleep for an hour... it was terrible... finally it subsided, and when i woke up later, my heart started palipitating... and has been since.

for some reason i think it is the t3. "


as of 12 hours from this experience, the palipitations have subsided somewhat - but arent completely gone.

I was told this was likely a thyroid storm - as i was taking 100mcgs of t3 with clen... i had been taking t3 for a few weeks now, but have been on 100mcgs for only a week, and combined it with clen for only 4 days.

i havent taken any t3 for 24 hours, and curious if i should stop it completly or if i should still taper down.

if at all possible i wouldnt like to get a bad rebound from thyroid shutdown, but more importantly, i would rather not die. so untill i hear otherwise, im not touching the t3.
 
RR, having just come off triac and clen I know what you mean. I just finished a 3 week triac cycle with the first 2 weeks ECA (and a tad bit of Y). The last week I started running clen at 20mcg and was getting dizzy, heart was beatting fast and the contractions were way harder then normal. I have run both of these compounds seperately and IMO they are to dangerous to run together.
Clen degredates cardiac beta receptors and as you know is a stim. T3 is not a stim but causes your heart to beat harder. These two together are dangerous. IMO, clen is all you need.
 
yea - i have run triac, yohimbe, and clen together before with no problems at all. I'm feeling better so far - so I'm pretty sure the t3 is what caused it all. I will stay away from the t3 from now on too, not so much because of that (i know my "limit" now) but for the strange fact that it didnt really work at all.
 
I have never used T3, but I am pretty sure it is a bad idea to just come off of 100mcg without tapering down. From what I have read, this could seriously mess up your thyroid from crashing. Might want to read up a little.
 
no offense guys, but really you should do a lot more researching about what some of ya'll are taking. Anyone who really knows what they are doing know that the clen/t3 stacks is as common as e + c. sorry maybe I'm just a tad moody today, just research the piss out of things before commenting
 
I've actually gotten similar symptoms to the ones you describe from taking Clen by itself. Don't count that out as suspect.
 
I've done that stack and i'm on it now with other things and do not experience what you did. Seems you might want to look to something else for that problem other than t-3. get to a doctor.
 
Starting T3 or T4 exogenous without having ordered an FT3, FT4, and TSH to verification that your not already hyperthyroid to begin with is asking for an arrythmia and other fun sides. Since 80 bucks and 12 bucks for the draw might be the difference between life and death and is less than the cost of one nice dinner out.. ...

These factors aside ----- the time release Lionthyronine SR and more desirable than the typical Cytomel/Liothyronine...... tapering onto and off of T3 and T4 is a requirement....... for 100 mcg Liothyronine... 25-w1, 50-w2, 100-w3, 50, w4, 25, w5.. type of style...

Of course--- I can't condone your shifting your TSH, FT3 or FT4 outside of clinical reference ranges here.................................
 
A lot of people don't taper off T3. Especially, considering shutdown from T3 occurs at as little as 25 mcg a day after 3 days. What exactly is the point of tapering down?
 
hethcliff said:
t3 with clen? why did you take both at once?
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LOL. Are you for real? i think the reason would be to BURN FAT!!!! OMG do some frickin research. "Why is he taking tren AND test?" "Why is he mixing ephedrine with caffeine AND asprin?" Umm..... nevermind.
BC








Sorry, not meanin to flame.
 
thejames said:
A lot of people don't taper off T3. Especially, considering shutdown from T3 occurs at as little as 25 mcg a day after 3 days. What exactly is the point of tapering down?
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To try to keep from going from an extremely fast metabolism to a really slow one all at once. Tapering off does seem to help reduce rebound effect somewhat.
 
bionicBC said:
LOL. Are you for real? i think the reason would be to BURN FAT!!!! OMG do some frickin research. "Why is he taking tren AND test?" "Why is he mixing ephedrine with caffeine AND asprin?" Umm..... nevermind.
BC








Sorry, not meanin to flame.
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wow settle down... i know he wanted to burn fat, that's obvious. it just seems like that is alot for your system to handle, and risky.
 
hethcliff said:
wow settle down... i know he wanted to burn fat, that's obvious. it just seems like that is alot for your system to handle, and risky.
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Its actually pretty common. Sure, its nothin to play with, but you gotta be careful with all of this stuff and dont go into it uneducated. Sorry, wasnt flamin...
BC
 
bionicBC said:
Its actually pretty common. Sure, its nothin to play with, but you gotta be careful with all of this stuff and dont go into it uneducated. Sorry, wasnt flamin...
BC
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no, its cool man. i just wasn't aware that stacking clen and t3 was a common thing to do. now i know :)
 
hethcliff said:
no, its cool man. i just wasn't aware that stacking clen and t3 was a common thing to do. now i know :)
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Cut the regular dosage of each in half or by 60% if youre combining the two...
BC
 
maybe im wrong but i thought a T3 /clen stack was doing clen for a week or so then t3 for a week or so

going back and forth so your receptors recover.....:wtf:
 
thejames said:
A lot of people don't taper off T3. Especially, considering shutdown from T3 occurs at as little as 25 mcg a day after 3 days. What exactly is the point of tapering down?
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Thejames raises a good point. I've mostly read that tapering down was the way to go but I have also seen others that suggest not tapering as the quicker and better way to recover. That by going cold turkey, it forces your body to restart production within a few days. Just stay off clen or anabolics which tend to interfere with your recovery and to just reduce calories slightly while maintaining your cardio and clean diet for at least two weeks following your cycle.

Has anyone tried both methods and did they notice a difference in their recovery? I'm going to use T3 for the first time as part of my cutting cycle and this one point that I have not been able to find a clear answer on.
 
Is anybody taking Taurine with these compunds? esp since clen depletes taurine esp in the heart. shoot for 2-5 grams of taurine a day plus potassium. And even better get off t3 and get some t2 or dicana .
 
I always heard that taurine interferes with the whole fat loss process of using clen/t3. I dont know the extent however. I believe big cat was the one i read this from.
 
Yeah well i am no clen guru, but in ALRI's cme he suggested it, as well as this link:Invalid Link Removed has some interesting points about it. IMHO i would rather sorta inhibit some fat loss than having a thyroid storm and die:blink: ...
 
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