Mdrol/M1,4add or p-plex bridge

GMaN1911

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iv seen a lot of people doing the mdrol and phera bridge and getting good results but iv never seen someone do mdrol with M1,4add. i wouldent run these as a stack but as a bridge it looks good to me. anyone have thoughts or experience with either of these bridges? im thinking about doing a bulk cycle in a month and was just trying to look at all the possibility.

Thanks
 
No I have never ran that but was thinking thinking the exact same thing! How would you run your bridge I am curious. I was thinking of m14add at 60,60,60,60 and start m-drol on week 3 at 10,20,20. Also thought about a m14add and stanodrol bridge inthe range of m14add at 60,90,90 and star stanodrol on week 2 at 300,450,450 aws thinking this one might be alittle friendlier to the liver.
 
actually i would run the mdrol first since i was on this other thread and everyone was saying that they run the mdrol first because it gives such rapid gains and there tricky to hold on to. there reasoning was " you wouldn't run dbol at the end of ur cycle would you?
" so that pretty much changed my opinion on that, but i would probably start mdrol 20/20/20 then on week three m14add at 30-60/60/90. I'm kinda confused on the dosing for m14add because everyone iv seen is running it so high like 200+ mg. have u run m14add?
 
just read that 120mgs for m14add is the min. dose

so maybe somthing like this

Mdrol: 20/20/20
M14add:0/0/90/120/120/120-150

but u would need two bottles of m14add so that kinda sucks
 
GMaN1911 said:
just read that 120mgs for m14add is the min. dose

so maybe somthing like this

Mdrol: 20/20/20
M14add:0/0/90/120/120/120-150

but u would need two bottles of m14add so that kinda sucks
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I would'nt want to run that cycle -- Maybe put the Mdrol at the end because you want to go straight into PCT after SD
 
mw1 said:
I wouldn't want to run that cycle -- Maybe put the Mdrol at the end because you want to go straight into PCT after SD
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y would u want to go straight into PCT when the gains u made from the SD were so fast and haven't been there that long and your body is not use to them so u would pretty much dump all the gains right when u started the pct wouldn't u think?

like i said above u wouldn't run dbol at the end of your cycle u would do it first then let the test solidify your gains, wouldn't you think the same would apply here. But are u coming from the stand point of the SD to be really harsh so u would want to run into the pct to catch all the sides if they do appear?

im in no way arguing, i am really curious what your views are on this. i just want to know as much as possible
 
Yeah that is one reason I was thinking about the m14add and stanodrol bridge, cause I hear the gains are easier to maintain and it is easier on the liver. You are right about the d-bol effect, running it at the end would just blow you back up with water. I also thought about maybe tapering down the m-drol at the end, which I see no one does around here, but it makes sense to me cause that is what you do with real gear, if you don't want b***h tits. I thought of something like this-m14add at 90,90,60,30 and start m-drol on week 3 at 20,20,10 cause I hear anything above 20 on m-drol just gives bad sides, what you guys think?
 
jeremiah0079 said:
Yeah that is one reason I was thinking about the m14add and stanodrol bridge, cause I hear the gains are easier to maintain and it is easier on the liver. You are right about the d-bol effect, running it at the end would just blow you back up with water. I also thought about maybe tapering down the m-drol at the end, which I see no one does around here, but it makes sense to me cause that is what you do with real gear, if you don't want b***h tits. I thought of something like this-m14add at 90,90,60,30 and start m-drol on week 3 at 20,20,10 cause I hear anything above 20 on m-drol just gives bad sides, what you guys think?
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yeah i think that would work, i just dont know if m14add would do alot at only 30 or 60 even. i myself have never done m14add but my first thought was to keep the m14 at a low dose because of the mdrol but now idk. haha reading all those posts can be confusing
 
yeah you're right about that. I think I got a good bridge figured out that I will run in a few months, it's a m14add bridged with a "anavar clone". should give nice results with less sides.
 
jeremiah0079 said:
yeah you're right about that. I think I got a good bridge figured out that I will run in a few months, it's a m14add bridged with a "anavar clone". should give nice results with less sides.
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sounds cool....i started looking into anavar but i think ill just run mdrol and phera
 
GMaN1911 said:
just read that 120mgs for m14add is the min. dose

so maybe somthing like this

Mdrol: 20/20/20
M14add:0/0/90/120/120/120-150

but u would need two bottles of m14add so that kinda sucks
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I wouldnt run it. I would run M1,4ADD with P-Mag.

mw1 said:
I would'nt want to run that cycle -- Maybe put the Mdrol at the end because you want to go straight into PCT after SD
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Definately would go straight into PCT after the M-Drol portion. I wouldnt run that cycle unless using Topical Formestane with it, and even then I would prefer M1,4ADD and P-Mag.

GMaN1911 said:
yeah i think that would work, i just dont know if m14add would do alot at only 30 or 60 even. i myself have never done m14add but my first thought was to keep the m14 at a low dose because of the mdrol but now idk. haha reading all those posts can be confusing
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60 mg per day is regarded as minimum dosage for M1,4ADD. If not going to run at least that, you would probably be disappointed.

For many people M1,4ADD alone or with P-Mag is a kick ass bulking cycle.

And since M1,4ADD is discontinued, you can find some really good pricing on it right now, as low as 19.95 per bottle while supplies last.
 
I was going to resurrect this older thread with some questions, but this one is fresher:):
anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/109660-cel-m1-4add

Mods, pimpslamp me if I should have posted a new M1,4add thread (seemed redundant) or bumped the one from 2008 above (was about cycling but diverged into CEL lot numbers and m1,4add/DHEA batches from years prior). Onto the Q's.

Does M1,4ADD get along well with 19-nor products like "X-Tren" and 1-T Tren, for instance, 90-120mg of M1,4ADD a day for 4 weeks along with 6 weeks of X-Tren 90mg/day or 1-T Tren.?

1-T (primordial performance) was suggested as a good ingredient for an M1,4add stack, and there was some pro-dienolone talk (other thread before the DHEA back-and-forth), so why not a 1-T Tren + m1,4add stack?

Would you expect:
Dramatically increased risk of gyno?
The shutdown be very severe?
This to even be a good combo?

I do like the sound of the P-Mag + M1,4add combo, and I read the impressive sponsored log, but I will probably save that combo for a future cycle. I also seem to remember a CEL rep suggesting that EQ-Plex + P-Mag was a popular combo. Has your opinion changed on the latter?

One last Q, did that sponsored combo/log (Pmag, M14ad) include any blood testing? I was always curious about how 200mg of methyl-anything is on the liver. It seems like the relative toxicity of M14ad is less than other single-methylation PHs/DSs. Any thoughts?
 
^^^^ I wouldnt stack M1,4ADD and X-Tren if it were me. I think there are better cycles.

I am not aware if Escholar had bloodwork done or not.

M1,4ADD will not be available much longer. We are out and not making more, so as soon as the retailer supply dries up, its gone. And one is selling it at 19.95 per bottle, so I doubt you will see it around for much more than another week or two.
 
You guys ever heard of Wicked 50- it's a blend of 40mgs. m14add and 10mgs. of superdrol per tab? I hear it's the strongest thing since m1t, to me it seems like an annadrol and d-bol mix which is really bad- I am still leaning towards the 1-ad and m14add bridge this should solidify the m14add gains pretty well.
 
1-AD bridged with M1,4-AD? If you actually have some 1-AD, I would run it alongside the M1,4AD for the full cycle length. 1-test and m1,4ad...could be interesting.

If you were talking about an Sdrol to m14ad bridge, the above posts and other threads on this forum explain why you should generally go straight to PCT from Sdrol (unless you are running pre-ban 4-AD or some other solid testosterone base like androgel or some test oil).

If you read Unreal's guide to Sdrol, he points out that your natural test will plummet to nothing within a few days of starting Sdrol. The m14add as a bridge would be like treading water w.r.t. any Sdrol gains until PCT IMO. It takes longer for m14add (well, extrapolating data on dbol though the m14add itself is active too) to suppress natural test than with sdrol, though it will happen eventually. You would also be at a greater risk of gyno from the severe shutdown of running sdrol first and following it with high doses of a medium to highly estrogenic compound like m14add. You would probably need some on-cycle anti-estrogen support (not the stuff from GNC either). I don't think the gains would be good. Your liver might have some heartburn too.

I would do the p-mag and m14add cycle.
 
jeremiah0079 said:
You guys ever heard of Wicked 50- it's a blend of 40mgs. m14add and 10mgs. of superdrol per tab? I hear it's the strongest thing since m1t, to me it seems like an annadrol and d-bol mix which is really bad- I am still leaning towards the 1-ad and m14add bridge this should solidify the m14add gains pretty well.
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Whoever makes that product is incredibly irresponsible at best, and just straight either f'n stupid at worst. Horrible combination to be put in the same product.

If you mean real pre ban 1AD, I would run it with the M1,4ADD.
 
I am starting week 4 of an M-drol pulse (10/20/20/20), and I am strongly considering bridging into M1,4ADD. I haven't decided for sure, but I might pulse the M1,4ADD just because there is no data that I can find on it. I have gained 6 lbs in the first 3 weeks, and for a winter bulk the added water from M1,4ADD would be acceptable. I will run M1,4ADD and P-Mag stacked on a future cycle. I have found that the M-drol is not producing significant sides in this pulse, and no noticeable shutdown either.

I see M-drol to P-plex bridges all the time, and it seems to me that this would be similar.
 
MEPSE said:
I am starting week 4 of an M-drol pulse (10/20/20/20), and I am strongly considering bridging into M1,4ADD. I haven't decided for sure, but I might pulse the M1,4ADD just because there is no data that I can find on it. I have gained 6 lbs in the first 3 weeks, and for a winter bulk the added water from M1,4ADD would be acceptable. I will run M1,4ADD and P-Mag stacked on a future cycle. I have found that the M-drol is not producing significant sides in this pulse, and no noticeable shutdown either.

I see M-drol to P-plex bridges all the time, and it seems to me that this would be similar.
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thats what i said in the beginning when i started this thread....i would think it would be about the same if not less of a risk.....but im sticking with mdrol and pplex bridge for the moment
 
Your post made me think about it, and I just don't know any reason it would be a problem. I will post once I finish to review how it went.
 
M-drol was 10 mg 3 x per week for week 1, 20 mg 3 x per week for weeks 2, 3, and 4. I may go to 30 mg 3 x for week 5, when I will start M1,4ADD at 30 or 60 mg 3 x per week for week 5, 90 mg 3 x per week for week 6, and 120 mg 3 x per week for weeks 7 and 8. I am on week 4 of the M-drol right now. The M1,4ADD doses may change, but this is my thought right now.
 
After thinking more about it, I will likely run 10 mg M-drol 3 days in week 5 (pulse) while I bring the M1,4ADD in. On a future cycle, I will start with the M1,4ADD and end with M-drol (bought some of each). I will also try M1,4ADD with P-mag, as recommended by CEL.
 
MEPSE said:
After thinking more about it, I will likely run 10 mg M-drol 3 days in week 5 (pulse) while I bring the M1,4ADD in. On a future cycle, I will start with the M1,4ADD and end with M-drol (bought some of each). I will also try M1,4ADD with P-mag, as recommended by CEL.
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ohh cool keep me updated on how it goes....i just bought two bottles of mdrol some pplex and a sh#t loud of torem....im gonna do a mdrol pplex bridge. got any cycle suggestions for the future?
 
I have never used P-plex, but I really like M-drol so far. I am pulsing it to reduce sides, reduce shutdown (I hope), and make it easier to keep gains. I am really looking forward to trying M1,4ADD and P-mag, which the CEL reps think is the best cycle (of legal PH) ever. I have never used a SERM, but I also have never run M-drol or P-plex on a straight cycle.

I will post my results and feelings in about 4 weeks when I finish.
 
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