Massacr3 evomuse BMP log

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Dosed 3 pills preworkout +
1 massacr3. Also taking some soy lecithin & peak o2
raked the backyard, alotta pine needles!

Then 3 rounds of 135 squat clean (5reps), 5 rep hspu, 10 burpies. Took 5 mins rest. 4 rounds of 5 reps 135 clean n jerk, 10 pull/chin ups. Went flyers game!

Workout felt fine. I been battling some high BP n brain fog. Feel pretty good this afternoon.

Weight in morning is about 176-177

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Hngggg in for natty supp log. I may do my last big natty anabolic(Ep1logue, laxo, edcysterone, ARA) run before I actually start the gas. Possibly.....

The Vaso 6 should help your bp and Epicatechin would be a good addition to this

What are your overall goals??
 
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I'll get in on this!
 
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Hngggg in for natty supp log. I may do my last big natty anabolic(Ep1logue, laxo, edcysterone, ARA) run before I actually start the gas. Possibly.....

The Vaso 6 should help your bp and Epicatechin would be a good addition to this

What are your overall goals??
I have run epicatechin for like 6 month. gonna take a break from it. goal is to keep recomping n get stronger, better conditioned. for those that do some crossfit workouts: did 2000m concept 2 row in 7:12 - trying to get under 7 min. clean 235#, power snatch 175#.

When i was focused on powerlifting last year my maxes were 325# squat, 275# bench, 405# dead.. those probably have went down some. Also to outangle my 3 year old..
 
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I’d love to get my 2k under 7 as well. Been a goal for awhile but I’ve gotten away from specifically training for it and haven’t done a sole 2k in a bit. It’s probably one of my least favorite tests...done right that one HURTS.
 
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I’d love to get my 2k under 7 as well. Been a goal for awhile but I’ve gotten away from specifically training for it and haven’t done a sole 2k in a bit. It’s probably one of my least favorite tests...done right that one HURTS.
yes its pure torture for body and mind.. im probably gonna buy a concept 2 for my house so i can row more frequently.
 
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I did Isabel workout on friday in 4:41 which is pretty terrible.
 
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I have run epicatechin for like 6 month. gonna take a break from it. goal is to keep recomping n get stronger, better conditioned. for those that do some crossfit workouts: did 2000m concept 2 row in 7:12 - trying to get under 7 min. clean 235#, power snatch 175#.

When i was focused on powerlifting last year my maxes were 325# squat, 275# bench, 405# dead.. those probably have went down some. Also to outangle my 3 year old..
How was running it for that long ? I want to experiment with high doses of laxo and epi long for long runs.

Hopefully you can finally put angle your 3 year old brother 😂
 
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How was running it for that long ? I want to experiment with high doses of laxo and epi long for long runs.
Same here. I've ran them both at normal/suggested dosage for an extended amount of time but haven't really tried longer runs at higher dosage to see if there is any more benefit at higher dosage.
 
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How was running it for that long ? I want to experiment with high doses of laxo and epi long for long runs.

Hopefully you can finally put angle your 3 year old brother 😂
I can def feel better pumps slight strenght increase from laxo, Epicatechin resulted in much better endurance for rowing, swimming, etc. I have further recomped since march while i was experimenting with various natural anabolics. Now to be honest none of these supplements hold a candle to Mk677 which i took for about 3 weeks. Had to stop it due to fluid retention leading to higher BP measurements. I have definitely leaned out alot more during mk677. My favorite natty anabolic may go to Follidrone.

On to the current stack. I def feel like stress relieve, mental clarity effects from BMP.

first workout of day was 3 rounds of sledpush, 200m skierg
3 rounds of 3 reps deficit HSPU, 4 reps 100# sandbag over shoulder.
+ some body building

later in day i did flat, incline bench supersetted with pullups, 155# front squat 2x8.
My body definitely is fatigued but i just keep pushing. Haven't taken an off day since I cant remember...

"A man has to continuously suffer to maintain his character"
 
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continuing with crossfit workouts, im possibly slightly leaner. today after training i was dizzy, I did push it pretty hard though. blood sugar was 98 after repleting with juice, cereal grain bar, half banana. dizziness didnt go away, so figured was low BP due to dehydration. Ended up drinking 3 liters of water which in about an hour i felt normal. So I was dehydrated pretty bad from my training today. I will make sure to hydrate very well moving forward.
 
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Cross fit workouts are definitely intense and would get me dehydrated for sure ha
 
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Massacr3 is effecting me negatively so if someone wants to buy remaining pills (35-40) for cheap. Let me know
 
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I had to stop the cycle short. I was getting terrible brain fog and negative sides.
 
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Definitely suppressed my testosterone levels, My brain fog got worse. Slight ED, no more morning woods at all.
i´ve started using BMP, and have a bottle of massacr3... i´m curious which ingredient in those 2 products would cause suppression?

now i´m not sure if i should use massacr3 with bmp... o_O
 
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i´ve started using BMP, and have a bottle of massacr3... i´m curious which ingredient in those 2 products would cause suppression?

now i´m not sure if i should use massacr3 with bmp... o_O
The only ingredient in either product to demonstrate anti-androgen effects is paeoniflorin (shown in-vitro only so far)
 
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The only ingredient in either product to demonstrate anti-androgen effects is paeoniflorin (shown in-vitro only so far)
Thanks for the info, had no clue,

currently on pct, so i will save the massacr3 for while taking break from BMP, or maybe even later 🤷‍♂️?

edit: btw i´ve just seen this ingredient on the list of BMP but not on Massacr3, so i believe this will be due to a synergistic effect?
 
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The only ingredient in either product to demonstrate anti-androgen effects is paeoniflorin (shown in-vitro only so far)
Just in case that isn’t enough, the sinomenine supercharges it for human bioavailability!

Thanks for the info, had no clue,

currently on pct, so i will save the massacr3 for while taking break from BMP, or maybe even later 🤷‍♂️?

edit: btw i´ve just seen this ingredient on the list of BMP but not on Massacr3, so i believe this will be due to a synergistic effect?
While I am on an extended kratom run which likely plays a factor, my libido/erectile function has been at an all time low since starting BMP when it was re-released months ago. There have been a few days here and there when I don’t take it, and my balls definitely seem larger and hang lower on those days- not even kidding. The main reason I am still using it is I am hoping it helps me get over a case of chondromalacia patellae (knee pain) that I happened to develop when I was on BMP...haha! Also, I bought the 12 bottle special...of course!

Physical benefits have only been a feeling of increased strength taken PWO (actual strength gains negligible), and a short lived full appearance even when dosing away from workouts. Sadly, it’s more of a bloated look in my chest and abdomen while my shoulders and arms look normal. It does temporarily enhance the look of my pecs so that’s nice :).

I also had a marked increase in anxiety since starting BMP, but that is something that could also be related to the ups and downs of kratom. Not to mention I am prone to bouts with anxiety regardless. Other people seem to think they love BMP, so I could be one of the outliers. I just saw OP’s updates so I couldn’t help but to chime in with my experience.

On the other hand, I never experienced any libido/erectile issues with MASSACR3 when I utilized 2.5 bottles consecutively, and I have not seen anyone else report that either. I don’t think it’s an issue of synergy between the two products causing an anti androgenic effect. More likely people’s individual response to BMP ingredients.
 
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Just in case that isn’t enough, the sinomenine supercharges it for human bioavailability!


While I am on an extended kratom run which likely plays a factor, my libido/erectile function has been at an all time low since starting BMP when it was re-released months ago. There have been a few days here and there when I don’t take it, and my balls definitely seem larger and hang lower on those days- not even kidding. The main reason I am still using it is I am hoping it helps me get over a case of chondromalacia patellae (knee pain) that I happened to develop when I was on BMP...haha! Also, I bought the 12 bottle special...of course!

Physical benefits have only been a feeling of increased strength taken PWO (actual strength gains negligible), and a short lived full appearance even when dosing away from workouts. Sadly, it’s more of a bloated look in my chest and abdomen while my shoulders and arms look normal. It does temporarily enhance the look of my pecs so that’s nice :).

I also had a marked increase in anxiety since starting BMP, but that is something that could also be related to the ups and downs of kratom. Not to mention I am prone to bouts with anxiety regardless. Other people seem to think they love BMP, so I could be one of the outliers. I just saw OP’s updates so I couldn’t help but to chime in with my experience.

On the other hand, I never experienced any libido/erectile issues with MASSACR3 when I utilized 2.5 bottles consecutively, and I have not seen anyone else report that either. I don’t think it’s an issue of synergy between the two products causing an anti androgenic effect. More likely people’s individual response to BMP ingredients.
You are aware that opioids reduce testosterone levels, correct?
 
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The only ingredient in either product to demonstrate anti-androgen effects is paeoniflorin (shown in-vitro only so far)
Have you seen anything suggesting a powerful anti-testosterone effect in a normally functioning male organ cell, even in a petri-dish?
 
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You are aware that opioids reduce testosterone levels, correct?
Yes, but Kratom is a partial mu opioid agonist with no clear consensus on its impact on testosterone. Do I think it plays a factor and could be one of the main factors- certainly. That’s why I wanted to mention it as well..
 
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Yes, but Kratom is a partial mu opioid agonist with no clear consensus on its impact on testosterone. Do I think it plays a factor and could be one of the main factors- certainly. That’s why I wanted to mention it as well..
Yeah - that's cool. Paeoniflorin actually may help with pain as well supposedly. But it also seems to have some CYP enzyme inhibiting properties - which is how one study seems to hypothesize it could reduce testosterone in drug-induced testosterone over production.

This CYP inhibition may also play a role in other drug interactions - and I am being completely theoretical here - like maybe making your kratom more bioavailable.

There are already a lot of reports of increased stim sensitivity with BMP, so perhaps.this is part of the reason...the grapefruit effect.
 
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Yeah - that's cool. Paeoniflorin actually may help with pain as well supposedly. But it also seems to have some CYP enzyme inhibiting properties - which is how one study seems to hypothesize it could reduce testosterone in drug-induced testosterone over production.

This CYP inhibition may also play a role in other drug interactions - and I am being completely theoretical here - like maybe making your kratom more bioavailable.

There are already a lot of reports of increased stim sensitivity with BMP, so perhaps.this is part of the reason...the grapefruit effect.
BMP doesn’t seem to increase the effects of anything else I take....at least to a level that I can recognize. This pertains to my stims as well as Kratom. When I first started BMP, I actually felt like it made me more sleepy and it seemed to mute my stims. Raw Dog reported a similar experience, but I don’t seem to notice that to a significant level now. I have seen reports of the opposite though (increased perceived effect of stims) by a few people as well.
 
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The only ingredient in either product to demonstrate anti-androgen effects is paeoniflorin (shown in-vitro only so far)
Urolithin B is most likely the culprit for the suppressiveness from massacr3. few people reported it on the Q&A sections of Ep1logue/Massacr3
 
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both massacr3 n BMP sold - i may pick up some f95 forskolin cuz i know that i have taken that in the past without any issues.
 
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