i used it expecting to see some gains from it and didnt quite get what i was looking for. I honestly didnt really notice much in terms of results with it. i dosed at 4 caps/day and then eventually bumped it up to 6 caps/day. Thats just my personal experience, other have had decent results off it however. Also, I think it may have cause prolactin gyno for about 2 weeks to me, but eventually that subsided