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Mass FX vs. Bad Ass Mass

FitnFirm

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A Tale of Two Pro-Anabolics

To clear up some controversy and confusion on the recently released Pro-Anabolic products Bad Ass Mass by ALRI and Mass FX by Anabolic Xtreme let us look closely at what we have in both product matrices.
Notably they both have 5a-25R-Spirostanes with the main difference being AX has a 3b,6a-diol analog and ALRI the 3b-6-keto derivative. Notably both compounds are indeed not identical, but like other steroids (these being of course of plant origin, called steroidal sapogenins) can be stacked for a synergistic effect. Both compounds are very nice pro-anabolics that offer many benefits. As a side note neither company began development of these compounds with any prior knowledge of the other having an interest in such and as is the case sometimes smart minds think alike.
Now onto the other compounds one can note AX has used 3,4-Divanillyltetrahydrofuran which is an excellent agent for increasing free testosterone levels and this works well for furthering overall pro-anabolic effects. To support the absorption and bioavailability of their matrix they have used the well known DHB and Bioperine that are very solid agents for that task.
Notably ALRI has a heavy emphasis on two herbal entities which knowing ALRI are custom proprietary extracts with sound potency for eliciting a multi-faceted benefit toward pro-anabolism. They also include a patent status Spirostene that also has potent pro-anabolic effects.
Now while each product alone is a great pro-anabolic matrix notably superior effects can be noted for those who wish to stack these products as multiple synergies will be further elicited by doing such. For those who may be more novice or not in need of the potency that can be derived from such a stack alternating the two products is also highly favorable in effect.
Both companies have shown a true desire to be forward reaching and provide novel matrices for helping bodybuilders and athletes achieve their goals. Indeed here we have two new distinct products that alone or in combination can certainly contribute to one's success for greater muscularity and strength.


Author L. Rea
 
anadrol75 said:
So which one would be the better choice? This is a hard decision. Both are outstanding products.

Only you can make that decision. Maybe use both one after the other to compare?
 
FitnFirm said:
Go with your gut feeling ;)
LOL. I have a really tough decision to make. I got a decent stack planned out here: Invalid Link Removed

Tell me what ya think..
 
jjohn said:
LOL. I have a really tough decision to make. I got a decent stack planned out here: Invalid Link Removed

Tell me what ya think..




Ummmmm, I think you have lost your last marble :) I would not use X-Factor at the same time as BAM & JW. Use it after the other two for god sakes. CraZy Kids........ :D
 
FitnFirm said:
Ummmmm, I think you have lost your last marble :) I would not use X-Factor at the same time as BAM & JW. Use it after the other two for god sakes. CraZy Kids........ :D

This is why I decided to start it 2 weeks before BAM is done, so that it kicks in right when BAM did it's job. This is only a plan, and this is why I am looking for opinions... ;)
 
ummmmm......

yeah this has drastically turned towards ALRI!?!?!?!?!

FnF do i have to chase you off with a stick again? :jaw:
 
macedaddy said:
ummmmm......

yeah this has drastically turned towards ALRI!?!?!?!?!

FnF do i have to chase you off with a stick again? :jaw:
Sorry, my fault bro.. You can chase me if you want to...:icon_lol:

Don't worry, it's BAM or MassFX. I still ain't sure..
 
BAM and JW

jjohn said:
This is why I decided to start it 2 weeks before BAM is done, so that it kicks in right when BAM did it's job. This is only a plan, and this is why I am looking for opinions... ;)

What are these.. BAM and JW.. never heard of them..
 
jjohn said:
Bad Ass Mass by ALRI and Jungle Warfare by ALRI

Thanks..
 
macedaddy said:
ummmmm......

yeah this has drastically turned towards ALRI!?!?!?!?!

FnF do i have to chase you off with a stick again? :jaw:


Oh ya tough guy? Huh ? You want some of this do ya ? uh do ya ??? :bruce1:

C'mon......make my day :D
 
FitnFirm said:
Oh ya tough guy? Huh ? You want some of this do ya ? uh do ya ??? :bruce1:

C'mon......make my day :D

I know I'm walking the line here, but ... are there any sites that you can trust to order... let's say... "certain sups"?
 
When i tried JW i was constantly tired and had headaches. I was wayyyy more lethargic than when i was on SD. I didn't even finish the bottle. I will probably give Arli a chance in the future with another product, but i'm an AX customer for life. I have never been disappointed with their products. It seems they do their research and never lie about results. (I'm not saying Arli does lie about anything btw.)
 
BigBoy12 said:
I know I'm walking the line here, but ... are there any sites that you can trust to order... let's say... "certain sups"?


AM members support the forum stores, Nutraplanet is the best place to buy any supplements. Sam is a great guy and customer service is 110%
 
St1ff said:
When i tried JW i was constantly tired and had headaches. I was wayyyy more lethargic than when i was on superdrol. I didn't even finish the bottle. I will probably give Arli a chance in the future with another product, but i'm an AX customer for life. I have never been disappointed with their products. It seems they do their research and never lie about results. (I'm not saying Arli does lie about anything btw.)


Good luck dude with whatever you choose, but one note of advice, if you continue to eat the way you were when using JW, On Mass FX, you will not gain any muscle, I guarantee it. I read up on your posts to refresh myself.

You cannot be afraid of carbs or food.

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FitnFirm said:
Good luck dude with whatever you choose, but one note of advice, if you continue to eat the way you were when using JW, On Mass FX, you will not gain any muscle, I guarantee it. I read up on your posts to refresh myself.

You cannot be afraid of carbs or food.

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I hit 2k to 2.5k calories a day and i gain weight extremely easily. I rotate carbs doing a none-low-high carb rotation. I'm 210 right now and i've gained 35lbs since last spring. Trust me, i've got a good size and I know what my body needs as far as calories go.

I feel like i'm being interagated for wanting to do a cut cycle!
 
St1ff said:
I hit 2k to 2.5k calories a day and i gain weight extremely easily. I rotate carbs doing a none-low-high carb rotation. I'm 210 right now and i've gained 35lbs since last spring. Trust me, i've got a good size and I know what my body needs as far as calories go.

I feel like i'm being interagated for wanting to do a cut cycle!


Have fun and post pictures to show off you hot bod after your cycle :)
 
St1ff said:
I hit 2k to 2.5k calories a day and i gain weight extremely easily. I rotate carbs doing a none-low-high carb rotation. I'm 210 right now and i've gained 35lbs since last spring. Trust me, i've got a good size and I know what my body needs as far as calories go.

I feel like i'm being interagated for wanting to do a cut cycle!

CUT IS FINE! FX WILL HELP MAINTAIN YOUR MUSCLE WHILE LOSING FAT!

CUT OR BULK! 1 gram of 25r-diol (recommended dosing of FX) will help you achieve your goals!
 
macedaddy said:
CUT IS FINE! FX WILL HELP MAINTAIN YOUR MUSCLE WHILE LOSING FAT!

CUT OR BULK! 1 gram of 25r-diol (recommended dosing of FX) will help you achieve your goals!


You're so much more positive!!!!! :)
 
St1ff said:
hhahah i sense sarcasm. Will you post your cutting diet for an example?


Sorry I pay for a trainer, the cutting diet / contest prep cannot be shared. I have logged my lean bulk here, and a full bulk though in the log section.

There was no sarcasm, believe it or not I just want you to succeed no matter what you choose to use. Nutrition and training is 90% of your results, all supps add the extra 10% edge.

Obviously I am female and much smaller than you, but I was eating more calories than you on my bulk, up to 2800 a day towards the latter part as I put on more muscle I had to increase cals.
 
So All is All the Cliff's Note version is this... Use MassFx during a Cut or Bulk either way the results will be favorable. Secondly MassFx and Bam are similar, BUT NOT THE SAME. As an AX Rep I am Prejudiced and I say USE MASS FX and HYPERDROL for Serious MASS, Or LBM RETENTION.
 
...and MassFX provides 1 gram of 25R-Diol in a daily serving (4 caps) and our bottles are 120 caps. Thus a full month at the MOST effective dose!
 
FitnFirm said:
Sorry I pay for a trainer, the cutting diet / contest prep cannot be shared. I have logged my lean bulk here, and a full bulk though in the log section.

There was no sarcasm, believe it or not I just want you to succeed no matter what you choose to use. Nutrition and training is 90% of your results, all supps add the extra 10% edge.

Obviously I am female and much smaller than you, but I was eating more calories than you on my bulk, up to 2800 a day towards the latter part as I put on more muscle I had to increase cals.


Tsk, paying for a trainer, thats cheating :)
 
St1ff said:
Tsk, paying for a trainer, thats cheating :)


No its not cheating, lol I suppose when you do not know everything and dont have a crystal ball up your ass, you get help to meet your goals. :D
 
ITS NOT CHEATING! I HAVE TO AGREE WITH HER ON THAT! Trainers tend to know alot more than most of us becuase they are experts in that area and spend a lot of time learning about specific diets and trianing routines! Even the Pro Bodybuilders have trainers! I have a trainer! Apowerz6 has a trainer! Doesn't mean we know any less than anyone else!
 
Having a trainer is a great way to learn your body, as they tend to see many different body types. As you train yourself you have to rely on trial and error as a trainer may or may not have to, but they have lots more experience in body compostiion, and diets than you, as many principles can be applied to many different people, and they can guage the effects. Whereas with self training you have to try a method and wait and see if it works, whereas with a trainer you hvae feedback, and manipulations. Overall its a great thing to have, and once you have nailed it down, then maybe You can go without one, but even still its a big risk.

As for all the people who have them, its a lot less people who do not have one, and often they wonder why they do not place. The only persons I can think who do not have trainers who are trainers/diet "gurus" are Milos Sarchev, and Charles Glass both who were major competitiors in their day, but never BIG BIG winners. They are better suited as trainers themselves. As Charless Glass helped Flex win many titles, and Mishko helps Dennis James, as well as other competitiors come in very tight. Oh one more is George Farah, a great trainer who is improving show by show great attitude and very knowledgable!!!
 
Oh god dont do that ..... Fit likes the rough stuff :)
macedaddy said:
ummmmm......

yeah this has drastically turned towards ALRI!?!?!?!?!

FnF do i have to chase you off with a stick again? :jaw:
 
Hey it was just a suggestion lol :) I gain size really easy too.. Unfortuntely for me it sucks being a chick... So I am constantly watching carbs to cut..


St1ff said:
I hit 2k to 2.5k calories a day and i gain weight extremely easily. I rotate carbs doing a none-low-high carb rotation. I'm 210 right now and i've gained 35lbs since last spring. Trust me, i've got a good size and I know what my body needs as far as calories go.

I feel like i'm being interagated for wanting to do a cut cycle!
 
you are quite fine as a chick, Raven! Accept it! Don't hate it! Love it! LOL!

We all are grateful that you are a chick!
 
Aww thanks... I have such a competitive nature that when it comes to supps... I want to try it all :) ALR is pretty glad I am a chick too :)
macedaddy said:
you are quite fine as a chick, Raven! Accept it! Don't hate it! Love it! LOL!

We all are grateful that you are a chick!
 
Hey Kev.... Are flashing those pearly whites at me ???? Good :) About time lol
QUOTE=BigSmith]Now that made me laugh :icon_lol:[/QUOTE]
 
damn it everytime someone mentions Bad Ass Mass I get so pissed off motherfvckin bad ass mass is the awesomest piece of damn dog doo i've ever laid my eyes since reading what it can do sh*t dude i'll take that AND massfx because they sound like fvckin synergistic twins damn stuff kicks so much a$$!
 
DazzlinJack said:
damn it everytime someone mentions Bad Ass Mass I get so pissed off motherfvckin bad ass mass is the awesomest piece of damn dog doo i've ever laid my eyes since reading what it can do sh*t dude i'll take that AND massfx because they sound like fvckin synergistic twins damn stuff kicks so much a$$!
Craziest post of the year maybe? :jaw:
 
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