Lol Kratom does get you high. When I first started taking it it felt exactly like taking a few hydrocodone pills. I'm not sure why youd say it doesnt get you high like opioid. It get you high exactly like an opiod because it is a partial mu-opioid agonist. Meaning it hits opiate receptors but not to the same extent a full mu-opioid agonist would. It does have a ceiling meaning its only going to get you so high. and then the sides increase the more you take.
I do hear you bro, I think kratom is much better than prescription pain killers and is natural. I know you rep and I think kratom has great potential to help people. For a lot of people its a crutch. Dont be naive to what your taking when you take kratom. Its properties activate opiate receptors and its why people use it recreationally. It gets them high especially in higher doses (greater than 5g).
I'm sorry about your son man I have a 3 year old boy that would crush me man. And I do agree its works well for pain and helps some people get through hard things. This is the reason I believe kratom can benefit as well. Everything in life has pros and cons. Theres no such thing in life as something with only positives and no drawbacks.
If your getting high Then your taking to way much.. Ive taken percs oxys viks.. Ive torn labrums and rotator surgery ,in both shoulders. Ulnar surgery and a bicep tenodesis. For beginners 2-3grams is plenty. Taking 1-2 days off every week or 2. What i consider a max dose is 6gr.. Ive never had to go beyond this. Ive been using this for yrs now. Kratom to me has the withdraws of caffeine..
Dose 2 maybe 3 time a day max..
But never has it gotten me high or weirded me out like percs. That made me itch or even after having labrum surgery yrs ago on my left shoulder and then ulnar surgery on my left elbow percs i was up trying to fix stuff high as kite. Anxious.. Acting crazy...
That was from only the dr recommended dose... Thia last yr. I had right shoulder surgery and bicep tenodesis.. Screw the pain meds.. Ice and red kratom.. Helped me tremendously through the pain and no jonesing or withdraws..
Everyone is different. What works for me may not work for you.. Like drugs or alcohol.
one person can go drink or have a little fun and not think nothing of it.. Never need to use them again.. While another person will have a totally different affect.. One drink may be all it takes and your hooked or someone may get high once and their hooked...
So if someone has that addiction type of problem. No matter what it may be... More than likely they will suffer the same addiction for anything they use or try...
Like coffee.. Do u know how many people who have to drink coffee every day. If not they cant function, think, cant get there day going ,are tired, moody, aggressive. Irritable...
Their whole personality changes all because their having withdraws because they didnt get a cup of coffee... I see this almost everyday.. Its laughable, but im serious.. They will tell you this personally.. You ever see someone who normally has coffee everday and come 5 oclock they havent gotten a single cup and theyre at work..sweating,cussing.. Absolutely miserable.. Im. A hero cause i had a k cup in my desk... It was literally like i saved her..lmao the next day she brought me in like 10 different types of k cups.. I just keep cause i know it will happen again.. But for the record pumpkin spice is nasty...ugh
Thanks for the kind words about my son..
And just so you know i got into kratom because of him.. And what he taught me and showed me. So if it can help him, all i want to do is help others... And so does he..
Goodluck..