MAN Figure Fuel

3utcher

3utcher

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Just saw the new figure fuel, and it's quite a big improvement from the old formula.
I think i found the perfect pre-intraW product.
1 scoop pre with bodyoctane, 2scoops intra.

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Wow, I agree! Props to MAN and to you for finding it. I do feel it is still used best preworkout though. Using a leucine-based product over the course of a 1-2 hour training session may actually be the worst way to use BCAAs.
 
Blood leucine needs to be spiked to induce MPS signaling (aka a rapidly consumed, bolus dose). Every shred of human or animal data on leucine/BCAAs has the subjects consume them preworkout, not intra.
 
What about taking a does of 15g BCAA pre-workout and then a 10g intra-workout? I enjoy drinking extend during a workout, so would this protocol be the best of both worlds?
 
3utcher said:
Just saw the new figure fuel, and it's quite a big improvement from the old formula.
I think i found the perfect pre-intraW product.
1 scoop pre with bodyoctane, 2scoops intra.
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So 3 scoops of figure fuel per workout ? How much is figure fuel since it only has 30 servings
 
3utcher said:
Just saw the new figure fuel, and it's quite a big improvement from the old formula.
I think i found the perfect pre-intraW product.
1 scoop pre with bodyoctane, 2scoops intra.

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The profile is OK, but I would have to see a cost per serving. At first glance, the new Protocol would appear to be superior for PWO use.
 
500mg Agmatine + 2g COP
VS
12g BCAA + 2g BA

Depends if you want to look bigger during a few hours or if you want to perform better and improve your bodycomp long term wise.
 
3utcher said:
500mg Agmatine + 2g COP
VS
12g BCAA + 2g BA

Depends if you want to look bigger during a few hours or if you want to perform better and improve your bodycomp long term wise.
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12g plus 2g is two scoops which equals to 15 servings u paying a whole lot for something u can just buy in bulk
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Wow, I agree! Props to MAN and to you for finding it. I do feel it is still used best preworkout though. Using a leucine-based product over the course of a 1-2 hour training session may actually be the worst way to use BCAAs.
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So since I add 4g bcaa + 2g leucine to 1 scoop compete intra-workout drink, should I just add that bcaa/leucine to my pre which also has 4g bcaa, 2g lecuine, + 1 compete (2500mg hydrolysate) and basically have double the dose pre-workout?

My intra-workout, I drink during my workout, and 20 mins of cardio post workout.
 
criticalbench said:
So since I add 4g bcaa + 2g leucine to 1 scoop compete intra-workout drink, should I just add that bcaa/leucine to my pre which also has 4g bcaa, 2g lecuine, + 1 compete (2500mg hydrolysate) and basically have double the dose pre-workout?

My intra-workout, I drink during my workout, and 20 mins of cardio post workout.
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Yes, I'd do that. That way you can maintain elevated leucine levels throughout the workout (plus whey potentiates the MPS spike).
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Yes, I'd do that. That way you can maintain elevated leucine levels throughout the workout (plus whey potentiates the MPS spike).
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So how about, I do,

Option 1: 8g BCAA, + 4g leucine pre-workout, with 2 scoops compete intra since it has 5g whey hydrolysate?
Option 2: 8g BCAA + 4g leucine + 1 compete Pre, with 1 compete intra like stated before?

Option 1 or 2? Then, I will shut up :p! you know i really appreciate your help bro.

Mike
 
criticalbench said:
So how about, I do,

Option 1: 8g BCAA, + 4g leucine pre-workout, with 2 scoops compete intra since it has 5g whey hydrolysate?
Option 2: 8g BCAA + 4g leucine + 1 compete Pre, with 1 compete intra like stated before?

Option 1 or 2? Then, I will shut up :p! you know i really appreciate your help bro.

Mike
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What is the ratio of the BCAAs you're using? I'd also need your bodyweight to give you an accurate figure, but a bolus dose of 5g leucine should suffice for most. I'd take some compete preworkout since the carnitines' benefits are manifested in a preworkout setting. If taking compete preworkout, I'd drop the BCAA dose (assuming 2:1:1) to 3-4g, keep the leucine as it is, and take the scoop of compete.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
What is the ratio of the BCAAs you're using? I'd also need your bodyweight to give you an accurate figure, but a bolus dose of 5g leucine should suffice for most. I'd take some compete preworkout since the carnitines' benefits are manifested in a preworkout setting. If taking compete preworkout, I'd drop the BCAA dose (assuming 2:1:1) to 3-4g, keep the leucine as it is, and take the scoop of compete.
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Im 185lb right now... 163ish of pure muscle, competition weight. BCAA's are primaforce, 2:1:1. I can and am willing to use up to 8g total around workout time whether intra/pre, post, etc. I am willing to use up to 4g luecine as well, and 2 scoops compete.


Thats the most i want to use total for pre/intra.

Mike
 
criticalbench said:
Im 185lb right now... 163ish of pure muscle, competition weight. BCAA's are primaforce, 2:1:1. I can and am willing to use up to 8g total around workout time whether intra/pre, post, etc. I am willing to use up to 4g luecine as well, and 2 scoops compete.


Thats the most i want to use total for pre/intra.

Mike
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Use no more than 5g FF-Leucine preworkout, then use the rest intraworkout. BCAAs may be more beneficial intraworkout since they are partially gluconeogenic.
 
saggy321 said:
What about taking a does of 15g BCAA pre-workout and then a 10g intra-workout? I enjoy drinking extend during a workout, so would this protocol be the best of both worlds?
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Depends on the duration of your workout.

I plan to have 10g pre and 10g intra in the next months, but i'll cut down my training time to 1h-1h30


criticalbench said:
So since I add 4g bcaa + 2g leucine to 1 scoop compete intra-workout drink, should I just add that bcaa/leucine to my pre which also has 4g bcaa, 2g lecuine, + 1 compete (2500mg hydrolysate) and basically have double the dose pre-workout?

My intra-workout, I drink during my workout, and 20 mins of cardio post workout.
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It's hard to tell because carnitine should be taken preW, but WPH preW is a waste (even though 5g is not much).

IMO
preW = 2scoops compete + 8g BCAA
intra = leucine.
 
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