Man arrested for firing gun into ground while catching burglar at neighbor's house

[Bolanrox]

Hold the parents accountable and shoot them too? Guaranteed crime cut back there?

 

[grngoloco]

How? he was leaving. How did you save them?

From future crimes!!!

 

[grngoloco]

Hold the parents accountable and shoot them too? Guaranteed crime cut back there?

This^^^

 

[grngoloco]

How? he was leaving. How did you save them?

My friend shot a 16yo kid in the back after catching him breaking into his truck,,, he did not get charged

 

[fadi]

From future crimes!!!

Well. Let's just execute them all then. Why bother and send the, to prison, or free them. To assume they are going to kill someone is far fetched.

 

[grngoloco]

Well. Let's just execute them all then. Why bother and send the, to prison, or free them. To assume they are going to kill someone is far fetched.

You do as you wish,, I'll keep my guns loaded, thank you

 

[EasyEJL]

That is a far fetch speculation. How often do thieves get identified and how often do they come back to kill their witness? Someone going for some cash does not make them killers by nature.

Would you be willing to take that risk with your family? I wouldn't. Do you know that he didn't kill your neighbor while he was in their house? No. Do you know he's unarmed? No.

Its a fair choice for you to make whichever way you prefer, but its not a higher moral ground to tell me that my choice is wrong. It may be technically not legally defensible, but there would be no evidence suggesting I wasn't in fear for my life. In truth I would be in fear for my and my family's lives afterwards if I didn't do that.

 

[EasyEJL]

Well. Let's just execute them all then. Why bother and send the, to prison, or free them. To assume they are going to kill someone is far fetched.

I'm all for that. Its far cheaper than the $40k a year it costs to put them in prison, and guarantees no repeat offenses. Its also an actual disincentive to perform crimes with a death penalty vs ones where you may just get probation for. Its a win win scenario.

 

[grngoloco]

Would you be willing to take that risk with your family? I wouldn't. Do you know that he didn't kill your neighbor while he was in their house? No. Do you know he's unarmed? No.

Its a fair choice for you to make whichever way you prefer, but its not a higher moral ground to tell me that my choice is wrong. It may be technically not legally defensible, but there would be no evidence suggesting I wasn't in fear for my life. In truth I would be in fear for my and my family's lives afterwards if I didn't do that.

^5 again in agreement

 

[fadi]

My friend shot a 16yo kid in the back after catching him breaking into his truck,,, he did not get charged

Well good for him. A model citizen.

By the way, in Texas it is called the Cattle Doctrine. Leave it to Texas to keep a law dating back to Cowboys days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

 

[fadi]

I'm all for that. Its far cheaper than the $40k a year it costs to put them in prison, and guarantees no repeat offenses. Its also an actual disincentive to perform crimes with a death penalty vs ones where you may just get probation for. Its a win win scenario.

Can't argue a point with someone who has little value for life

 

[Bolanrox]

Horse their wad a hanging offense why shouldn't car jacking be. Like that guy in my why stole a car with a kid in the back seat and then ran over the mother when she tried to stop him

 

[csa2179]

i am a firm believer in the right to "bear" arms and the king of the castle laws but in this case the old man had no right to do what he did. the intruder had no weapon and was no threat. i see this all the time in the street. people think they can do what ever they want.

holding someone at gun point is kidnapping in almost every state. you do not have the right to threaten someone with death because they might have stolen 50 bucks worth of stuff.

now if the 27 was covered in blood he might have a case.

king of the castle law's are just that, you are king of your castle not the castle next door.

 

[fadi]

i am a firm believer in the right to "bear" arms and the king of the castle laws but in this case the old man had no right to do what he did. the intruder had no weapon and was no threat. i see this all the time in the street. people think they can do what ever they want.

holding someone at gun point is kidnapping in almost every state. you do not have the right to threaten someone with death because they might have stolen 50 bucks worth of stuff.

now if the 27 was covered in blood he might have a case.

king of the castle law's are just that, you are king of your castle not the castle next door.

Exactly. Thank you.

 

[grngoloco]

Well good for him. A model citizen.

By the way, in Texas it is called the Cattle Doctrine. Leave it to Texas to keep a law dating back to Cowboys days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

Yep that covers it,,, I get to shoot anyone coming to take or reasonably believe is leaving with my stuff,,, my car is listed as part of my castle,,,

 

[fadi]

Horse their wad a hanging offense why shouldn't car jacking be. Like that guy in my why stole a car with a kid in the back seat and then ran over the mother when she tried to stop him

Here is the Texas law on the subject http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.htm

 

[csa2179]

i believe in Texas, car and horse are interchangeable.

 

[grngoloco]

Here is the Texas law on the subject http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378F.htm

Down the street from me last year,, four kids broke into a house,, three were killed, shot in the back, running away,,, the fourth kid was charged with their deaths,, the home owner was only charged for the quarter ounce of weed he had on his coffee table!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

 

[grngoloco]

Fadi, I couldn't care less if you have what it takes to protect yourself, your family and your community,,, but I'll protect you, your family and your community if given the chance!! I got your back, bro!!!

 

[csa2179]

Down the street from me last year,, four kids broke into a house,, three were killed, shot in the back, running away,,, the fourth kid was charged with their deaths,, the home owner was only charged for the quarter ounce of weed he had on his coffee table!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

i remember when this happened, in Arkansas they have to be past the thresh hold and have to be armed. that is if you kill them. you can shoot them in the leg or arm if they are unarmed .

 

[fadi]

On a side note, people own cats to kills bugs, snakes, and mice. My cats love to catch them outside and bring them inside to play with them till they are bored. I found a snake in my shoes while putting them on last year, and one of my cats just brought in another baby snake.

 

[grngoloco]

i remember when this happened, in Arkansas they have to be past the thresh hold and have to be armed. that is if you kill them. you can shoot them in the leg or arm if they are unarmed .

A wounded man can pull a trigger,,, takes longer to determine if they're armed than it would for them to kill you if they are,,, that law sucks,,, lol

 

[grngoloco]

On a side note, people own cats to kills bugs, snakes, and mice. My cats love to catch them outside and bring them inside to play with them till they are bored. I found a snake in my shoes while putting them on last year, and one of my cats just brought in another baby snake.

That's funny,,, I love snakes, I live in the country,, lots of snakes

 

[Bolanrox]

so they/ he /she / it is coming right for us! is not a valid justification these days?

 

[csa2179]

A wounded man can pull a trigger,,, takes longer to determine if they're armed than it would for them to kill you if they are,,, that law sucks,,, lol

i gave my Mama a mossberg 500a1 last year, told her to aim center of there chest and pull the trigger. laws a lot more lax on women. but im a pretty good shot, id rather take out a knee cap or two before taking a life. and yeah a wounded man can pull a trigger. for me if they have the gun visible its 2 to the chest one to the head. but if its not visible and there on the ground you can finish them off before they can draw.

 

[grngoloco]

so they/ he /she / it is coming right for us! is not a valid justification these days?
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Lol,,, not gonna have a conversation to determine intention, if they intentionally broke into my house,,, lol

 

[grngoloco]

i gave my Mama a mossberg 500a1 last year, told her to aim center of there chest and pull the trigger. laws a lot more lax on women. but im a pretty good shot, id rather take out a knee cap or two before taking a life. and yeah a wounded man can pull a trigger. for me if they have the gun visible its 2 to the chest one to the head. but if its not visible and there on the ground you can finish them off before they can draw.

Funny,,,

 

[Bolanrox]

Lol,,, not gonna have a conversation to determine intention, if they intentionally broke into my house,,, lol

IMO fair warning is when the broke in. after that all bets should be off.

 

[grngoloco]

IMO fair warning is when the broke in. after that all bets should be off.

Agreed!!

 

[EasyEJL]

so they/ he /she / it is coming right for us! is not a valid justification these days?
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it really depends on your state. Florida has some of the loosest laws on it