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making test susp.

Well if I did tren I would most likely scrap the whole short cycle idea, since I don't want to pin everyday or possibly get test prop and do eod injections. I did that before with sledge test and it wasn't that bad. Tren I would really like to do, I just would rather not speed up hairloss of I am predisposed to it, but it may be a risk ill take. Ill probably just get some spiro to help prevent it.
 
snakebyte05 said:
Well if I did tren I would most likely scrap the whole short cycle idea, since I don't want to pin everyday or possibly get test prop and do eod injections. I did that before with sledge test and it wasn't that bad. Tren I would really like to do, I just would rather not speed up hairloss of I am predisposed to it, but it may be a risk ill take. Ill probably just get some spiro to help prevent it.
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You can get tren base too. So you can still do trans if you want to. It is usually around 9 bucks a gram.
 
pjsallday said:
You can get tren base too. So you can still do trans if you want to. It is usually around 9 bucks a gram.
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Yea but the only sources I have found are international for that. I haven't decided if I want to do it or not, im still deciding. If I do I will be sure to buy in a large amount for future cycles. Anyone know if I can keep test in a ziplock bag for a year without it degrading?
 
I think I am going to stick with the transdermal instead of doing the eod stuff. This way I can keep it a short cycle which I have been meaning to try for a while. I am thinking that if I buy, I may just buy all tb and stock up on it so I dont have to go through this again. I'm just trying to figure out how long powder would stay good in a ziplock bag in room temp. ALso the other thing I am still debating is possibly tren dermal. Since I will only be apply 5mls a day of tb, I could do another application in the evening of the other, and just apply twice a day.
 
Yeah, TB Is cheap as dirt, if your supplier is 100% legit, no reason not to order an extra 50 or 100 grams to keep around. Just put it in a ziplock bag and squeeze ALL the air out, then put it in some sort of screw top canister, put some rice or some of that nice absorbant cotton on top of it, and before you screw it in put vaseline around the outside edge of the canister where it screws on (this keeps pretty much ALL moisture from entering the canister) and just stick it in the freezer. Voila, good for probably ~3 years.
 
exnihilo said:
Yeah, TB Is cheap as dirt, if your supplier is 100% legit, no reason not to order an extra 50 or 100 grams to keep around. Just put it in a ziplock bag and squeeze ALL the air out, then put it in some sort of screw top canister, put some rice or some of that nice absorbant cotton on top of it, and before you screw it in put vaseline around the outside edge of the canister where it screws on (this keeps pretty much ALL moisture from entering the canister) and just stick it in the freezer. Voila, good for probably ~3 years.
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At least 3 years with this method! Light is the main enemy of test, more than heat or moisture. Just keep it out of UV light. I've seen test last 5 years at room temp.
 
Well after much thought I have decided to skip on the tren. As much as I would love to try it there are some things that are more important to me. One being my hair, two being the fact that it is highly suppressive, I would like to edge away from those for the time being to ease my mind for having children in the next 5years or so. Sure I could freeze some sperm and go crazy, but Id rather concieve on my own accord. So I am going to stay away from anything really suppressive. Test is about as suppressive as I want to go for the time being not much more than that.

So with that said my cycle will be test trans with either var or sd on the side. With that said, this thread can probably die considering the original intent of the thread was completely thrown away in the third post or so. :) Plus I am going to push the cycle even farther down the road due to the fact that I am going to enter alri's contest. So I may order some powders this summer, but either way my cycle will not be till fall bulk time. Well time to get my diet down and find what I can use legally to help me grow (besides food, protein, and of course some creatine). Maybe some x-factor should be tried.
 
Man don't get all pussified. If you're already thinning a good deal yeah tren is gonna thin you out faster, but what's the big deal you're gonna go bald soon anyhow. If you've still got a full head of hair and you're like 25 or older I wouldn't worry about it man...


As for being supressive, you'll be fine. Don't run longer than 12 weeks and keep the HCG going and you're golden man.

The way you're worrying is like not driving because you're afraid you'll get into an accident - sure it happens but not to careful people (usually). You'll be fine...
 
Well I was planning a short cycle of 6-8weeks. But as far as HCG, I dont have a person to get any from. Im trying to find out what states its illegal to have in, to wonder if I even needed to be secretive about getting it. Im not sure If I need a source for it or if i can just get it from a regular company like custom nutrition (if he had it).
 
It's schedule 3 like steroids in a couple of states (Ca for sure, don't know about others). I know you can drive across the border from mexico with a "3" month supply and declare it and customs will give it back to you in most states. I'm pretty sure you can order it from overseas pharmacies like inhouse and if they sieze it you can just show up and ask for it back. It's not federally scheduled.
 
Animal is offering a kit to make TNE suspension. I'll be trying that out in the next month or two and use it precontest. Will post feedback on that as soon as i can.
 
Well after much searching I have found a int. person who I may go with. Many recommend him and he has good prices. I am not sure about purity it says USP 26 USP 24 for different things, this is labeled under his standard, not sure if this is purity or not.

Here is what I am looking at for the cycle:

TB 800mg-1g/week in dermal (4.5-5.5mls/day in the morning)
Boldenone base 600mg/week in dermal (3mls in evening)

(Another thought for application would be 2.25ml TB/1.5ml Bold applied both morning and evening for more even blood levels of both hormone)

I also have a chance for some very cheap anavar, not sure if I should go for it or not to add it as an extra kicker. I'm thinking that may be overboard though.

I have to order in bulk for all of this, meaning at least 50g of each TB and Bold base (since they require larger orders from him).

My order will consist of 60g tb 50g Bold base. Enough test for 3 dermal cycles, and enough bold for 5 dermal cycles. I figure if I put in a ziplock, in a glass jar, in the freezer I can hold these for 3years or more, unless I use these all in the next upcoming cycles for the next 2 years or so. All in all, the powders plus shipping, plus 3 bottles t-gel will be very cheap (at least from what I can see). i will be putting 10g in each t-gel. Many of you have helped with giving me a relative range I should look for on prices. Thanks for that.

Any input on how this looks would be great. I am not planning on researching any of this stuff on my rats for months to come, so I have plenty of time to revise if you guys think I should.
 
I would up that test to at least 2grams a week dermal. The generous absorption would be just under 500mg a week. I would recomend phlojel ultra as the carrier. I would not recomend more than 150mg/ml. Do a search on how to compound phlojel. Make sure you get a mortar and pestle from Invalid Link Removed. Then I would get a couple of big syringes 25-60ml. the largest the lemelange sells is 10ml. good luck. If its jet. you better get someone else since he is having problems right now and will not be back for a couple of weeks at the least. good luck. :thumbsup:
 
pjsallday said:
I would up that test to at least 2grams a week dermal. The generous absorption would be just under 500mg a week. I would recomend phlojel ultra as the carrier. I would not recomend more than 150mg/ml. Do a search on how to compound phlojel. Make sure you get a mortar and pestle from Invalid Link Removed. Then I would get a couple of big syringes 25-60ml. the largest the lemelange sells is 10ml. good luck. If its jet. you better get someone else since he is having problems right now and will not be back for a couple of weeks at the least. good luck. :thumbsup:
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The dosage I described is what would be absorbed into me, not what I am applying. I am applying a much higher dose than that, the 600mg and 1g dose is what I am getting after a 35% absorbtion rate. Thanks for the help.
 
Jminis if you are out there I would love to have some feedback from you. Seeing as you have done many 40days cycles, I would value having your opinion. I've noticed many of your cycles use several different compounds added in and taken out throughout the cycle, which you said was done for specific reasons. If you had any ideas on how to bring my cycle to full potential, please shed some light.

EDIT: Well I guess if I am going to be weighing powders I will need a scale unless someone knows of an easy way to get 10grams out, which I doubt anyone does without a scale. :(
 
TNE suspension 50mg/ml
Supplies needed
1 Gram TNE powder
16.45 ml distilled water
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 20ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.2 ml Benzyl Alcohol (1%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)

The recipe I use for TNE suspension, I thought you may find it interesting,
 
dalejmurphy said:
TNE suspension 50mg/ml
Supplies needed
1 Gram TNE powder
16.45 ml distilled water
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 20ml plunger
2 ml Benzyl Benzoate (10%)
.2 ml Benzyl Alcohol (1%)
.6 ml Polysorbate 80 (3%)

The recipe I use for TNE suspension, I thought you may find it interesting,
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forgot the instructions

1. Sterilizing the water, no instructions needed there...

2. put 2ml BB and .6ml PS80 into 20ml vial, and add your 1 gram of TNE powder to it.

3. let sit for 15 minutes while swirling lightly (until all clumps are broken up)

4. now shake vial very vigerously and check to make sure all clumps are broken up.

5. add 5ml of your distilled water and shake vigerously to break up any clumps left over, then add the remaining 11.25ml of water.

6. add your .2ml of BA for sterility, cap and seal, You're done.


(This is spydie's(i don't know if he posts on this board or not) recipe, not mine)
 
Dale, I'd be careful with the BA, it turns my suspension into sludge. It made it look like a bad lava lamp or something! Adding the tween 80 will just give you a painful emulsion, it will no longer be a suspension. That's why I suggested chorobutanol. It's even more bacteriostatic than BA and offers the same degree of analgesia.
 
dalejmurphy said:
forgot the instructions

1. Sterilizing the water, no instructions needed there...

2. put 2ml BB and .6ml PS80 into 20ml vial, and add your 1 gram of TNE powder to it.

3. let sit for 15 minutes while swirling lightly (until all clumps are broken up)

4. now shake vial very vigerously and check to make sure all clumps are broken up.

5. add 5ml of your distilled water and shake vigerously to break up any clumps left over, then add the remaining 11.25ml of water.

6. add your .2ml of BA for sterility, cap and seal, You're done.


(This is spydie's(i don't know if he posts on this board or not) recipe, not mine)
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I think Snake is wanting the TNE in a transdermal. But, thanks for the recipe. :thumbsup:
 
kelvin_chia said:
Animal is offering a kit to make TNE suspension. I'll be trying that out in the next month or two and use it precontest. Will post feedback on that as soon as i can.
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Just an update on my abovementioned endeavour.

Managed to get a very nice milky liquid suspension. Powder used was 5g test base to yield 50ml of 100mg/ml. Have not tried it yet, so not sure what guage size it would pass through. But Animal said that a 25g will do fine. The kit, by the way, is pretty fool proof even for a first time homebrewer like me.

My only complain is a small bit of rubber from the stopper that found its way into the gear, but i should have known better than to use an 18g needle when filtering.

I would rate it 9 out of 10.
 
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